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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
July 23 2011 10:14 GMT
#5721
Are the new maps out on official ladder yet? I can't check right now, and so far I haven't seen any of them on user streams.
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XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
July 23 2011 10:53 GMT
#5722
On July 23 2011 15:16 Soluhwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 13:52 Kambing wrote:
Units can be dropped from a fungaled dropship.

I think this is actually incorrect, you can't drop stuff if stunned by fungal growth. This is why you will see zergs like leenok leave an infestor at each base to deny drops. You can fungal the dropship to deny it's unloading and retreating and then use the base's queen to kill it.

You can drop while fungaled. I've done it several times.

But not ENTIRELY sure though because it might have been between two fungals.
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
ToastieNL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands845 Posts
July 23 2011 11:28 GMT
#5723
On July 23 2011 18:46 Geiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 18:31 ToastieNL wrote:
I'm looking for a couple of build orders which I can't seems to find.
3 gate expo (vs Z)
1 gate expo (vs Z)
2 gate robo expand (vs T)

Thank you



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=194376

http://blip.tv/day9tv/day-9-daily-323-ogsmc-s-pvz-5370956 (no thread on this yet)

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=196385 or
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=206596 (3 gate robo)

Thata a 3 gate robo, i asked 2 gate robo !
And for the 1 gate stargate expand im looking for a bo

Ty anyways

@phone, sorry for punctuation

Zerg lategame is imbalanced as shit. Also: "Protoss is really strong recently. Perhaps, it's time for there to be some changes for Terran." -MMA. Even MMA asks for buffs. Srsly Blizzard. Srsly.
Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France2036 Posts
July 23 2011 12:01 GMT
#5724
On July 23 2011 20:28 ToastieNL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 18:46 Geiko wrote:
On July 23 2011 18:31 ToastieNL wrote:
I'm looking for a couple of build orders which I can't seems to find.
3 gate expo (vs Z)
1 gate expo (vs Z)
2 gate robo expand (vs T)

Thank you



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=194376

http://blip.tv/day9tv/day-9-daily-323-ogsmc-s-pvz-5370956 (no thread on this yet)

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=196385 or
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=206596 (3 gate robo)

Thata a 3 gate robo, i asked 2 gate robo !
And for the 1 gate stargate expand im looking for a bo

Ty anyways

@phone, sorry for punctuation



It's a 2 gate robo.

Day9 gives you a BO in the daily
geiko.813 (EU)
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
July 23 2011 12:38 GMT
#5725
On July 23 2011 21:01 Geiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 20:28 ToastieNL wrote:
On July 23 2011 18:46 Geiko wrote:
On July 23 2011 18:31 ToastieNL wrote:
I'm looking for a couple of build orders which I can't seems to find.
3 gate expo (vs Z)
1 gate expo (vs Z)
2 gate robo expand (vs T)

Thank you



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=194376

http://blip.tv/day9tv/day-9-daily-323-ogsmc-s-pvz-5370956 (no thread on this yet)

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=196385 or
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=206596 (3 gate robo)

Thata a 3 gate robo, i asked 2 gate robo !
And for the 1 gate stargate expand im looking for a bo

Ty anyways

@phone, sorry for punctuation



It's a 2 gate robo.

Day9 gives you a BO in the daily

It's an awesome daily (I just watched it), but to be fair, he doesn't give a BO. In fact, he explicity says he's describing more of a concept than a specific build, and doesn't spend much time at all focusing on the timing at which different buildings/units go down.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 13:42:42
July 23 2011 13:09 GMT
#5726
On July 23 2011 15:16 Soluhwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 13:52 Kambing wrote:
Units can be dropped from a fungaled dropship.

I think this is actually incorrect, you can't drop stuff if stunned by fungal growth. This is why you will see zergs like leenok leave an infestor at each base to deny drops. You can fungal the dropship to deny it's unloading and retreating and then use the base's queen to kill it.


Nope. It is correct and easily verifiable in a unit tester such as Unit Tester Online.

EDIT: forgot to mention. On the other hand, units that are immobilized by fungal cannot be loaded into a dropship.
ToastieNL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands845 Posts
July 23 2011 13:10 GMT
#5727
Tadam !

Anyways, thanks for your answer. I thought u had a 3grobo, as u wrote that !
Anybody knows timings for 1gate expo v Z? Into stargate.

Kind regards
Zerg lategame is imbalanced as shit. Also: "Protoss is really strong recently. Perhaps, it's time for there to be some changes for Terran." -MMA. Even MMA asks for buffs. Srsly Blizzard. Srsly.
DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
July 23 2011 13:17 GMT
#5728
Really? It can't be that hard.
9 pylon
12 gate 13 gas 15 pylon, 19 gas, make one sentry/zealot, put down stargate as u can afford it (obviously, dont spend any more gas) - make voidray if thats what u want, then expand. keep probing after nexus goes down so u can transfer asap.
Die tomorrow - Live today
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
July 23 2011 16:01 GMT
#5729
On July 23 2011 19:14 GenesisX wrote:
Are the new maps out on official ladder yet? I can't check right now, and so far I haven't seen any of them on user streams.


No. Not until s3 rolls over.
Warnipple
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada57 Posts
July 23 2011 16:05 GMT
#5730
Hi I am a diamond Terran player and I need a master's terran to coach me so I can leave diamond >_>

Can anyone help me with that? I know its possible for me to reach masters. I just have some rough edges I need to smooth out.
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AustinCM
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 19:33:01
July 23 2011 19:32 GMT
#5731
is there any way to punish a terran fe as zerg?

like 1 rax expand.
"Somewhere, Something incredible is waiting to be known." -Carl Sagan
ToastieNL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands845 Posts
July 23 2011 19:42 GMT
#5732
On July 24 2011 01:01 Kambing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 19:14 GenesisX wrote:
Are the new maps out on official ladder yet? I can't check right now, and so far I haven't seen any of them on user streams.


No. Not until s3 rolls over.

Is there already any words out on when S3 will start? I'm getting slightly anoyed by all the all ins/cheeses to burn Bonuspool
Zerg lategame is imbalanced as shit. Also: "Protoss is really strong recently. Perhaps, it's time for there to be some changes for Terran." -MMA. Even MMA asks for buffs. Srsly Blizzard. Srsly.
Kuror
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States399 Posts
July 23 2011 20:01 GMT
#5733
Does fungal growth stack? Meaning can I cast two fungal growths at the same time on one marine, will it do twice the damage?
Saad
Profile Joined June 2011
United States50 Posts
July 23 2011 20:05 GMT
#5734
Why do some people open with 2 gate robo and some open with 3 gate robo? Is it that they expo behind the 2 gate and pressure with 3 gate?
Channel Pressure
Profile Joined July 2011
United States62 Posts
July 23 2011 20:24 GMT
#5735
as a general rule, is it a bad idea to blink to get a better concave?
"A pastor I was listening to was talking about Job and referenced that his belongings had been burned down by marauders -- and heres where I blew it -- I immediately and arbitrarily replied aloud, "Were they stimmed?"
Channel Pressure
Profile Joined July 2011
United States62 Posts
July 23 2011 20:26 GMT
#5736
On July 24 2011 05:01 Kuror wrote:
Does fungal growth stack? Meaning can I cast two fungal growths at the same time on one marine, will it do twice the damage?



Fungal does not stack, and while were at it I dont believe any Area effect spells stack, with the exception of HSM. . but that might not be an apples to apples compairison.

Double stacking fungal will just reset the time.
"A pastor I was listening to was talking about Job and referenced that his belongings had been burned down by marauders -- and heres where I blew it -- I immediately and arbitrarily replied aloud, "Were they stimmed?"
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
July 23 2011 20:28 GMT
#5737
On July 24 2011 05:24 Channel Pressure wrote:
as a general rule, is it a bad idea to blink to get a better concave?

This is actually great use of blink, as its main function is to allow one to re-position their army mid battle. Any use of blink to get a favorable position over your opponent is correct use of blink.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
Channel Pressure
Profile Joined July 2011
United States62 Posts
July 23 2011 22:06 GMT
#5738
On July 24 2011 05:28 Soluhwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:24 Channel Pressure wrote:
as a general rule, is it a bad idea to blink to get a better concave?

This is actually great use of blink, as its main function is to allow one to re-position their army mid battle. Any use of blink to get a favorable position over your opponent is correct use of blink.



Awesome! Thank you
"A pastor I was listening to was talking about Job and referenced that his belongings had been burned down by marauders -- and heres where I blew it -- I immediately and arbitrarily replied aloud, "Were they stimmed?"
Ninja_Bread
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States113 Posts
July 23 2011 23:14 GMT
#5739
On July 24 2011 04:32 AustinCM wrote:
is there any way to punish a terran fe as zerg?

like 1 rax expand.


That question is not only EXTREMELY vague and non-descript, but it also has many answers.

It has a lot do with the distance between you two as well as what units you want to make. You can punish a FE by terran with a lot of units, some are more all-in than others, a roach all in could easily end that game, a baneling bust could end it, ling harass could put you far ahead, so basically making units allows you to punish a terran FE, just be weary of how you are engaging vs his bunkers and wall.
Mang
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 23 2011 23:26 GMT
#5740
On July 24 2011 08:14 Ninja_Bread wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 04:32 AustinCM wrote:
is there any way to punish a terran fe as zerg?

like 1 rax expand.


That question is not only EXTREMELY vague and non-descript, but it also has many answers.

It has a lot do with the distance between you two as well as what units you want to make. You can punish a FE by terran with a lot of units, some are more all-in than others, a roach all in could easily end that game, a baneling bust could end it, ling harass could put you far ahead, so basically making units allows you to punish a terran FE, just be weary of how you are engaging vs his bunkers and wall.


I actually have an equally vague response on how to punish terran on a 1rax FE.

Never let him down his ramp.
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