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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 18 2011 15:15 GMT
#5441
On July 18 2011 15:30 Dalguno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 15:21 Dalguno wrote:
On July 18 2011 07:49 Dalguno wrote:
Is there a program that will say something like "APM low, APM good" when those things are happening, that isn't against the ToS?


Reposting because I really want to know. Something like Chaos Manager or that BW thing?



+ Show Spoiler +
I just scared myself by reading my own post. Saw somebody had posted in this thread after me, and went to check their response. Looked at mine (but didn't realize it was mine) and read "reposting" as "reporting" and thought somebody was reporting me for something or other. I need to go to bed.


I already answered your question.
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
July 18 2011 15:31 GMT
#5442
On July 19 2011 00:15 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 15:30 Dalguno wrote:
On July 18 2011 15:21 Dalguno wrote:
On July 18 2011 07:49 Dalguno wrote:
Is there a program that will say something like "APM low, APM good" when those things are happening, that isn't against the ToS?


Reposting because I really want to know. Something like Chaos Manager or that BW thing?



+ Show Spoiler +
I just scared myself by reading my own post. Saw somebody had posted in this thread after me, and went to check their response. Looked at mine (but didn't realize it was mine) and read "reposting" as "reporting" and thought somebody was reporting me for something or other. I need to go to bed.


I already answered your question.


Oh thank you! I didn't even see that, whoops.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
Legendre2k
Profile Joined December 2010
8 Posts
July 18 2011 17:36 GMT
#5443
If you send a worker to mine a patch through the fog of war, and the patch has already been mined out by an opponent (unknown to you), does the worker know it ahead of time and wont get the ability to clip through other unites? If it does get the clipping ability, when does it stop having it?

Sorry if this has already been answered, and by inability to check myself.
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
July 18 2011 18:09 GMT
#5444
On July 19 2011 00:13 See.Blue wrote:
If someone didnt play all of season 2, season 3 would they have to do a full set of qualifiers again?


No. The initial placement matches are only used to generate an initial MMR. Once you have an MMR, you no longer need to do placement matches unless it is reset e.g., by the TW/KOR, LA/NA, RU/EU server merges.

You will only need to play your single "hey, I'm active" game to be re-ranked in the new season.
Shinny
Profile Joined November 2010
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 18:28:05
July 18 2011 18:27 GMT
#5445
I didn't really read every single post ... srry bout that, but
When should zerg start to spread one's creep?
Should they wait for the third queen?
Or if they can't get the third queen due to pressure?
When will there be a cure for stupidity
The Intensity
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom66 Posts
July 18 2011 18:47 GMT
#5446
I would say that if you play standard, you can't really support the first inject or two if you are droning up, so you can lay down a creep tumour or 2.
COCA!
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
July 18 2011 18:52 GMT
#5447
On July 19 2011 03:27 Shinny wrote:
I didn't really read every single post ... srry bout that, but
When should zerg start to spread one's creep?
Should they wait for the third queen?
Or if they can't get the third queen due to pressure?


Make the second queen from the main, and use it's starting energy to drop a tumor to spread creep from you main to your natural. That tumor will begin a slowly spread creep until you get a third queen out which should be used to start the real fast spread.

If you are under so much pressure that you can't get a 3rd queen out, then you're probably facing an all-in. There are few situations that I can think of where the you are under so much pressure that 3rd queen is impossible, and the other guy isn't going all in. In the case of facing an all-in, mass creep spread isn't going to play as large of a factor considering that if you make a successful defense, you've probably won the game. Also, you'll probably need all of the queen energy to make inject, so you have enough units to defend with.
TheNthDimension
Profile Joined July 2011
United States7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 20:05:58
July 18 2011 20:03 GMT
#5448
Around how many observers should I have in game?
Should I have one over their main base and one over my army? (this is what I do. If the main one gets killed, I send it back. The third time I give up)
Should I have one floating around the map scouting around for expos and armies?

I know I need one with my army and have always carried one with my main army ever since I got caught off guard by DTs.

EDIT: I didn't do my research
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2140504163
This thread tells me pretty much what I need to know: 1-2 for scouting, 1 for army. If anyone has anything to add, let me know. I'm in bronze. My friend in masters tells me he thinks I'm gold level play but the ladders are locked.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 18 2011 20:17 GMT
#5449
How can I find public test realm? I want to practice the new maps before season 3 goes live.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 18 2011 20:23 GMT
#5450
Go on a magical journey to your Program Files -> Starcraft 2 folder and open Starcraft 2 Public Test.exe
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 18 2011 20:28 GMT
#5451
Wow it's only opened to NA players. Nice of bliz to give them an edge
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
July 18 2011 20:48 GMT
#5452
my latest terran openings (eu masters) :| anyone else agrees that hellion is way too popular these days?

vs Z - reactor hellion opening
vs T - reactor hellion with 1 port viking
vs P - 2 fact blue flame opener with attempt to bypass front line for major probe damage (most tosses do not expect 12 hellions at the 8 minute mark, when caught off guard it's gg)
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
AustinCM
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada275 Posts
July 18 2011 20:50 GMT
#5453
repost

Where can I find a comprehensive 14g/14p 21 hatch ZvZ guide or replay pack? I want to know the reactions to everything, how to get roaches and how to defend expansions from blings and what tech choices to make based on my opponent.
"Somewhere, Something incredible is waiting to be known." -Carl Sagan
Isaac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 21:07:57
July 18 2011 21:04 GMT
#5454
nvm
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treekiller
Profile Joined July 2010
United States236 Posts
July 18 2011 21:04 GMT
#5455
On July 19 2011 05:48 Manimal_pro wrote:
my latest terran openings (eu masters) :| anyone else agrees that hellion is way too popular these days?

vs Z - reactor hellion opening
vs T - reactor hellion with 1 port viking
vs P - 2 fact blue flame opener with attempt to bypass front line for major probe damage (most tosses do not expect 12 hellions at the 8 minute mark, when caught off guard it's gg)


In the beta reactor helions were popular, but got pushed aside when people realized they would win half the time with a 2 rax. Then when this stopped happening, they switched back to helions, though i think 2 rax is still the best, at least on small maps.

Banshee opening seem to dominate tvt, or shee hard-counters. They make you safe from most early pushes and decent expand timing. People have stated to skimp on defense early, so helions can be good, but b-flame drop is better tvt, or the helion/rine/medevac push is preferable

b-flame drop against toss is not very stong due to FF. It can be a good way to transition into mech against toss. Hellions are great harass late game.

As to ur question, yeah i think ur a helion nub if you really do that in all matchups.
All good things must come to an end. Therefore, SC2 will last forever
Chutoro
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand95 Posts
July 18 2011 21:18 GMT
#5456
On July 19 2011 05:50 AustinCM wrote:
repost

Where can I find a comprehensive 14g/14p 21 hatch ZvZ guide or replay pack? I want to know the reactions to everything, how to get roaches and how to defend expansions from blings and what tech choices to make based on my opponent.


If you haven't seen it, start with the speedling expand guide by Chaosvuistje, which you can find in the Recommended Threads sticky. It covers most of the things you've mentioned up to early-mid game. I made it the basis of my ZvZ when I was in Silver and it hasn't failed me yet (now in Plat and ZvZ is still my strongest matchup).

Also read the followup posts in the thread for some comments on handling banelings.
AustinCM
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada275 Posts
July 18 2011 22:05 GMT
#5457
so what is the best roachling timing against a 3g fe and a 1g fe? i have been doing a 14 pool 16 hatch 16 gas build where i drone to 21 get my warren at 5:10 and try to hit with 7-8 roaches at 7:15 with sling reinforcements. It's 4 supply for the queens, 21 for the drones 16 for the roaches and i make overlords to give me 52 supply and make 11 sets of ling reinforcements and behind the attack i make 2 ovys and then drone.

thoughts?
"Somewhere, Something incredible is waiting to be known." -Carl Sagan
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 22:16:48
July 18 2011 22:15 GMT
#5458
(deleted, as my questions fits better in the zerg help me thread.)
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
bankai
Profile Joined November 2010
362 Posts
July 18 2011 23:46 GMT
#5459
What is a good 1 Gate FE build in PvZ?

When is it appropriate/safe to do this build? I see lots of pros pretty much pulling it off every time zerg goes speedling expand on 21ish supply.
HardCorey
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States709 Posts
July 18 2011 23:57 GMT
#5460
On July 19 2011 08:46 bankai wrote:
What is a good 1 Gate FE build in PvZ?

When is it appropriate/safe to do this build? I see lots of pros pretty much pulling it off every time zerg goes speedling expand on 21ish supply.


1 gate FE is a build.

What you build afterwards is determined primarily by scouting.

Although you can typically say a good amount of sentries with a handful of stalker/zealot early to defend since when FEing you will not have much opportunity to pressure in the early game.
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