Stopping marine rushes as Protoss.

On November 05 2010 23:24 s4m222 wrote:
If you see a terran doing a 3 rax push, you MUST keep your sentry FF aimed at your choke at all time, except when your clicking probe with your hotkeyed nexus and making/warping in units.

Any moment your not doing 1 of these click your army group, mine i keep as 1, and click F, and i hover it at my choke, ready to either completely deny access, or cut their army in half.

If terran stims and runs up and i fail to FF its GG. Keeping an eye on the terran army/your choke is of upmost importance when terran is doing this kind of 3 rax push.

Like in drivers ed, cover your brakes, cover your horn (be ready to do either) Against a terran timing push up your choke, the FF will be the difference between GG, or you eating there army up.

Que up your FF, and aim it at your choke and keeping doing this. make probe que FF, make units, que FF, chronoboost building, que FF.

If you have 200+ apm you might be able to get away with simply keeping an eye on terran army from up your cliff, but I prefer to simply have it que'd.

(and FF length is 15 in game seconds, which is like 10 real seconds so in that time you could potentially make another sentry, delaying for another 10 secs 20 sec if you warp in 2, warp in 2-3 stalkers [you shouldnt try to hold a 3 rax with less then 2 gates] all of which will help you hold off marines, and/or even pull 3-6 probes to help if you really need)

On November 06 2010 00:24 j0k3r wrote:


I hardly find this necessary, and no I don't have 200 apm. I think its much more helpful to be active with a scouting probe to see when he moves out of his base, and then followup by sending talkers to have a look. You should have a tower w your stalker as well to help see the push. Retreat it as soon as the army comes into view. Constantly paying attention to minimap and scouting units rather than queing ffs indefinitely is better imo since u get to see his army comp and gives u some map control.

On November 06 2010 01:17 Crosswind wrote:
Three things are important here:

1.) Figure out if he's taking gas or if he isn't. If he's not, you are getting marine rushed.

2.) Don't build zealots. Chrono out stalkers. As soon as you have a stalker, go start taking shots at his marines. Kite them all the way back to your base. If your micro is good, focus them down. If your micro is bad, just shoot 'em randomly. Doesn't super-matter, your goal is to weaken.

3.) If they get to your base, pull probes and slaughter 'em. Probes will kill weakened marines quite fast, particularly with stalkers firing.

-Cross

He only had 14 SCVs, you had 22 probes. If they are going for a BS-ey allin rush like that its ok to lose those probes, they had probably already payed themselves in mining time at that point.

On November 06 2010 00:24 j0k3r wrote:


I hardly find this necessary, and no I don't have 200 apm. I think its much more helpful to be active with a scouting probe to see when he moves out of his base, and then followup by sending talkers to have a look. You should have a tower w your stalker as well to help see the push. Retreat it as soon as the army comes into view. Constantly paying attention to minimap and scouting units rather than queing ffs indefinitely is better imo since u get to see his army comp and gives u some map control.