EPTHow to stop a 15 Nexus as Zerg? - Page 3
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mikell
Australia352 Posts
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onmach
United States1241 Posts
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sikyon
Canada1045 Posts
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TeWy
France714 Posts
But well, what wouldn't do a well-microed squad of roaches in 1.1.2... | ||
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lovewithlea
168 Posts
14 hatch -> saturate both 2 overseers to delay colossi/storm -> roach/hydra with some upgrades. go every game i played versus FE protoss i knocked at his door while he was trying to chrono out colossi overseer comes into play | ||
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citi.zen
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On October 19 2010 00:10 lovewithlea wrote: roach/hydra timing push 14 hatch -> saturate both 2 overseers to delay colossi/storm -> roach/hydra with some upgrades. go every game i played versus FE protoss i knocked at his door while he was trying to chrono out colossi overseer comes into play The overseer idea is pretty cool and vastly underused! | ||
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TeWy
France714 Posts
On October 19 2010 00:22 citi.zen wrote: As the protoss I LOVE seeing roaches/lings early on - it gives me a ]clear economy advantage even if I need a couple more cannons. I like to encourage this type of all-in roach play by placing a pilon at the Z's expo with the scouting probe, so they feel they can't expo on time and panic. The main ramp is very narrow and you can easily have 3 cannons + 2 stalkers attacking down when the roaches get there. Roaches also mean delayed mutas. You're underestimating the Zerg macro mechanics if you think that massing 7-10 roachs early game is an all-in. | ||
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universalwill
United States654 Posts
i definitely see a lot of trouble double expanding on jungle basin, though. the map is really anti-zerg. i'd say that your best bet is just voting down the map =P but if you don't want to do that, you could risk the double expand or just all-in roach and break down the rocks at his natural. | ||
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Gont
Germany239 Posts
just came to mind :D may be worth it | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On October 18 2010 04:39 superbabosheki wrote: You can't win a pure macro game vs zerg, so if you go nexus first they will have way more drones than you, good creep spread, and the production to build a crapton of units so fast. What are you talking about? The zerg always needs to be ahead in base count otherwise they will lose the macro game. You cant split making drones and units off of a lesser number of bases well enough to win against any decent player. | ||
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Pfeff
United States270 Posts
This build is more of an eco-all in than it is as safe as you think. If I see someone doing this, I will go lings into corruptor/ultra. Ultras will rip through your stalkers and the corruptors will own phoenix anytime they come in and try to graviton beam a Queen (since your creep is so wide spread, they are amazing healers of ultras as well as aa..on creep). There is no way you will be able to keep up with a zerg who is left to macro. Ever. 1600 zerg so take it for what it's worth | ||
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Gont
Germany239 Posts
On October 19 2010 01:02 Pfeff wrote: There is a lot of bad advice going around in this thread like people talking about mutas to fight stalkers and phoenix, etc... This build is more of an eco-all in than it is as safe as you think. If I see someone doing this, I will go lings into corruptor/ultra. Ultras will rip through your stalkers and the corruptors will own phoenix anytime they come in and try to graviton beam an ultra. There is no way you will be able to keep up with a zerg who is left to macro. Ever. 1600 zerg so take it for what it's worth u can graviton ultras? i was pretty sure it isnt possible until now | ||
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OrangeOrangeOrange
United States13 Posts
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OrangeOrangeOrange
United States13 Posts
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divertiti
Canada106 Posts
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ToxNub
Canada805 Posts
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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
Also, the phoenix will scout for the Protoss and if he ever sees Ultralisk caverns, Immortals ftw. The pros with this build is that you can almost adapt Zerg-style with your buildings since you have soooo much money. | ||
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
bascially, u need 2 bases saturated and some army for the first push, spine crawlers on the 2nd expansion, then pump drones after holding off the first protoss push, you should then have 3 mining bases vs his 2, leaving you to decide what to do make sure the creep is spread to every base you have though ! though strategys arent 100% reliable, this is starcraft afterall, but definatly need to double expand and spread creep to each base. | ||
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