[H] PvT Phoenix & Collossus - Page 2

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Canada45 Posts

September 29 2010 01:02 GMT

#21

the fact that he managed to mass colossus and pheonixes means you've lost the game a long time ago. it's not about the unit composition, it's about how you allowed him to get his economy that high and not catching up with it. i don't mean anything bad but this kind of a build is pretty much a build to humiliate another player, sorta like writing GG in the middle of the map with pylons, or massing like 40 voidrays, or making a mothership.

there's no reason not to wall in as terran against protoss unless you'd want to welcome 2 gates or even 4 gates worth of zealots rushing into your main.

the point of the pheonixes are to lift up ground units infamis... as well as fight off vikings...besides the toss player wouldn't be pushing until he had enough colossus to mop the floor with marauders. i refuse to think any protoss would move out anything less then 6 colossus for this kind of unit composition.

TibblesEvilCat

United Kingdom766 Posts

September 29 2010 01:22 GMT

#22

mass mauraders attack move kill probes, deal with phoneixes l8er xox

palanq

United States761 Posts

September 29 2010 02:09 GMT

#23

I'm assuming this is 2+ base per person
so I would say yes, get a 2nd starport.
vikings and phoenix are about even in cost effecitveness vs each other and you need vikings vs the colo anyway
if it turns out you overcommited on vikings (oops), maybe you can switch on a tech lab or two and get some banshees, which are good units in any case. or BCs! (but I don't have much experience fighting those)

Markwerf

Netherlands3728 Posts

September 29 2010 02:13 GMT

#24

The only proper solution is vikings, mostly marauder MMM and a few thors/ghosts.

Vikings are about cost even against phoenix but if the protoss player is good he will get +1 on the phoenix or have his phoenix under guardian shield. This will tilt the favor heavily to the phoenix. With the cybernetics always available, air attack for the phoenix is easy to access whereas viking upgrades require the armory so aren't really easily accessible. Pure viking will lose to pure phoenix cost effectively if the protoss invests something into upgrades or sentry backup so T needs something to help win the air battle from the ground. As too many marines instantly melt to colossi you need thor(s) or ghosts with good emp. Thors are usually easier as they are much more effective against phoenix.

DragonDefonce

United States790 Posts

September 29 2010 02:52 GMT

#25

Colossus phoenix combination sounds bad right off the paper.... expensive and easily countered. Marauder thor seems to be the easiest and the most effective way to deal with this other than bc's.

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