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Felixphaeton
Profile Joined June 2010
10 Posts
September 19 2010 05:03 GMT
#21
I did this for 100+ games.

It works if you get lucky, and the other guy doesn't go for an early aggression build.

I generally go this BO.

9 Pylon
14 Nexus
16 gate
18 single/double cannon
19 Core
Continue to mass gates/tech.

Ad lib as you need to survive.

You will be cutting quite a few probes at the start from the need to get buildings up. It takes a while before you can constantly produce probes from both Nexuses.

Once you get past that window where you're vulnerable, though, you are in a very good position (obviously)
zaldinfox
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada60 Posts
September 22 2010 00:38 GMT
#22
How do you scout the zerg tho, after you wall in?


For the 10/Nexus, 11/Forge FE, I don't get my first pylon until after the nexus. I send a scout either directly after I plant the Nexus, or after I plant the first pylon. Given the fact that many toss wait to scout until after gate (as in 9/pylon, 12/gate), it is not too late to still scout speedlings.

My challenge is to see some replays where you plant the Nexus before your first pylon. Do it up!
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
September 22 2010 04:55 GMT
#23
It's weak against 6-9 pool and requires probe micro vs 10 pool. Should only be used on certain maps, LT is the easiest one. I actually have the build for it saved to a document so I'll C&P it here:

Cannon opening:
9 pylon
15 nexus
15 forge -> send probe to scout, send a 2nd probe from main to natural
16 or 17 pylon
Cannon when forge is done
Gate to create wall with 1 space opening
2nd cannon if needed
Zealot when gate is done, plug wall
Cynbernetics core as part of wall
23 assimilator
26-27 assimilator
3rd cannon if needed

Zergs might double expand or mutaling in response. Then you can use this transition:
Start chronoing warpgate research when core is done
Use probe to check for zerg 3rd base, check for unit composition afterwards
Also start +1 weapons
36 add some gates
40 add gates until 6 gates
Gates finished: turn all into warpgates, spend all gas on sentries and make zealots
Push out at 9 minutes with gateway units as +1 finishes, chrono gates
Get +2 and templar tech, research blink or charge, make robo just in case

If they go fast roach into hydra instead, you should forget about the +1 zealot push and turtle behind cannons instead while waiting for robotics.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
LolnoobInsanity
Profile Joined May 2010
United States183 Posts
September 22 2010 16:43 GMT
#24
What happens if they go mutas? How do I counter mutas if I do this build
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