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TTB's PvP 2-1-1 build - Page 3
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
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CanucksJC
Canada1241 Posts
Most people will make a stalker to chase out the probe, and place units near their ramp so no probes can get in. Is there an alternate way to scout? Other than engaging armies? | ||
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
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taketobreak
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so dont get pheonix i think the best thing to do would be to scout with 1 stalker running around the map by your enemy. if your enemy is above his ramp in his base then do not run up the ramp cuz you will get forcefielded. but if your enemy is below his ramp your single stalker can scout and will not die if you micro it good enough if your enemy got blink he can kill your stalker but im talkin mid game scouting just trying to see if he has immortals if your enemy immortals super early i will still wait a bit for that second stargate by the way since you dont wanna put it up too fast later in the game you could use a voidray to scout a bit and kill a few probes if you wanna look for his tech. or a observer if its lategame since you can afford it. | ||
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iSTime
1579 Posts
EDIT: I guess you're getting void rays and not phoenix, but still I don't see why everyone has to name their build after themselves. | ||
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taketobreak
73 Posts
On September 13 2010 15:38 PJA wrote: Why are you calling this "TTB's PvP 2-1-1 build" when top level players have been doing this for several weeks? Watch kiwikaki vs huk and suggy vs tt1 iem games, for example. EDIT: I guess you're getting void rays and not phoenix, but still I don't see why everyone has to name their build after themselves. sorry i need to edit the front post i meant it as in "this is the build TTB likes to do in PvP" however i know it also implies ownership. i will edit and change it. i dont own this build EDIT: i cant edit the thread title. whatever. i dont care i guess. think whatever you want im sorry i wrote an offensive title | ||
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Kiarip
United States1835 Posts
On September 13 2010 15:33 taketobreak wrote: i wouldnt wanna use a pheonix to scout cuz getting just 1 pheonix would weaken your army slightly since just 1 is pretty weak. and massing pheonix would be weak too so dont get pheonix i think the best thing to do would be to scout with 1 stalker running around the map by your enemy. if your enemy is above his ramp in his base then do not run up the ramp cuz you will get forcefielded. but if your enemy is below his ramp your single stalker can scout and will not die if you micro it good enough if your enemy got blink he can kill your stalker but im talkin mid game scouting just trying to see if he has immortals if your enemy immortals super early i will still wait a bit for that second stargate by the way since you dont wanna put it up too fast later in the game you could use a voidray to scout a bit and kill a few probes if you wanna look for his tech. or a observer if its lategame since you can afford it. Phoenix is fine. 1 phoenix doesn't weaken you much. If he's going robo, building more phoenixes is a really strong move. If he's going 4 warpgate, well then regardless of what you're going you just gotta buckle up and defend. If he's going some noob coin-flip build, like blink stalkers, you stop all stargate production, get a robo, and keep pumping zealots, then expand whenever you have the money, and get a 2nd robo, while continuously using your phoenix to scout... Opening phoenix is way better than opening voidray and then not being able to scout. | ||
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