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Anyone remember that cheese nony used phase 1 beta it was in his replay pack. I think it was like building first pylon in terrans base, then gateway moer pylons forge zealots cannons?
Does that still work? or with the marine and baracks times changed and all, has it been destroyed?
Anyways, i think i ran into someone tryign somethign vaguely like this today, ive been playing random, but they were terrible terrible.
What kinda cheeses actually beat a terran? i dotn think ive ever really had trouble, proxy 2 gate is EZ to hold off with a bunker, cannon rush is pretty hard to lose to. Are there any quirky strategies that actually work against terran or is terran preeeetty safe vs early P cheese?
And DAMN tester popularising that cannon ramp nat block strategy, i swear EVERY ZvP i've played and gone pool first i get that done jsut becasue 'tester did it' -.-
any other funky cheeses frustrating you guys?
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The forge timings made it pretty damned impossible to pull off.
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On August 01 2010 20:03 Anomandaris wrote:
2 gate in base of terran
Dont you think that one bunker will beat you?
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On August 01 2010 19:45 Reignyo wrote:
Anyone remember that cheese nony used phase 1 beta it was in his replay pack. I think it was like building first pylon in terrans base, then gateway moer pylons forge zealots cannons?
Does that still work? or with the marine and baracks times changed and all, has it been destroyed?
Anyways, i think i ran into someone tryign somethign vaguely like this today, ive been playing random, but they were terrible terrible.
What kinda cheeses actually beat a terran? i dotn think ive ever really had trouble, proxy 2 gate is EZ to hold off with a bunker, cannon rush is pretty hard to lose to. Are there any quirky strategies that actually work against terran or is terran preeeetty safe vs early P cheese?
And DAMN tester popularising that cannon ramp nat block strategy, i swear EVERY ZvP i've played and gone pool first i get that done jsut becasue 'tester did it' -.-
any other funky cheeses frustrating you guys?
have rep of tester?
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He's referring to the build he used vs IdrA in the Day9 King of the beta tournament.
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On August 01 2010 20:53 Reignyo wrote: Dont you think that one bunker will beat you?
That's why it's called cheese, if he doesn't scout it, he won't bunker.
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On August 01 2010 21:14 spark19725 wrote:
1 reaper.
Haha, I've yet to deal with a proxy reaper + bunker.
Although now I know that you have to set up your pylons a lot more wisely, and probably pull probes to deal with the SCV. I think the correct way to deal with this is simply open with a core and pull some probes+save chrono.
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im tired of cheese its time to play safe i think, but yeah, toss pylon in enemys base its nice u can hide canon and gateway for make real damage against toss or terran.
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On August 01 2010 21:25 gillon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 20:53 Reignyo wrote:On August 01 2010 20:03 Anomandaris wrote:
2 gate in base of terran Dont you think that one bunker will beat you? That's why it's called cheese, if he doesn't scout it, he won't bunker.
No, I think he meant AFTER the zealot was out. Not that hard to do a slow bunker push.
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On August 01 2010 21:34 kidijs wrote:Haha, I've yet to deal with a proxy reaper + bunker. Although now I know that you have to set up your pylons a lot more wisely, and probably pull probes to deal with the SCV. I think the correct way to deal with this is simply open with a core and pull some probes+save chrono.
Fortunately I encounter Terrans who aren't very good at reaper micro, so it's been slightly less annoying to deal with, but I'm not too excited about having to deal with a good player doing it with the recently buffed reaper speed upgrade.
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Proxy voidray works quite well on maps like steps of war.
Can give an outright win or slow down any terran push and force them to turret or marine up.
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On August 02 2010 10:13 Rarak wrote:
Proxy voidray works quite well on maps like steps of war.
Can give an outright win or slow down any terran push and force them to turret or marine up.
this never works for me because every terran I play against goes marine ghost. Its an extremely difficult build to beat because High Templar and Colossi take forever to tech to.
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On August 01 2010 21:25 gillon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 20:53 Reignyo wrote:On August 01 2010 20:03 Anomandaris wrote:
2 gate in base of terran Dont you think that one bunker will beat you? That's why it's called cheese, if he doesn't scout it, he won't bunker.
Yeah, but the likelihood of a halfway decent player not scouting your base and figuring out what's up (even if he doesn't scout his own) is zero. And once the terran knows about it, marine micro (sacking some SCVs to block the zealots if necessary) + a bunker will beat it, and then you lose. I played against this twice as terran in the last two days and this is exactly how both went.
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