• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:30
CET 08:30
KST 16:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival9TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest1Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou21Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four3BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET10Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO8
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou The New Patch Killed Mech! Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Season 3 Qualifier Links and Dates $1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival Is there anyway to get a private coach? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals ASL final tickets help Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Roaring Currents ASL final Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1563 users

[G] ZvP Sheth's Guide - Page 13

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 All
Twaxter
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada190 Posts
August 26 2010 21:50 GMT
#241
Thank you for the assistance.
Lose and Learn
ToxNub
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada805 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 22:08:35
August 26 2010 22:05 GMT
#242
Edit: confused myself
SARgeant47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States24 Posts
August 26 2010 22:24 GMT
#243
I like the 3 changelings to block his ramp while u harass. Fantastic idea even if he knows they rnt his marines/zealots it will still delay him a critical few seconds u need to finish up the harass and leave before he kills ur force. I think if used with nydus against an immobile terran would b a good way to get him out of position then when he kills ur changelings retreat and then attack his front. Make that slow terran move so u can pick him off little by little. (One of the reasons y I think zerg is OP and not terran cuz ppl just havent discovered the true value of zergs speed against the slow armies) I never understand y zerg or protoss just run straight into the terran army like they might win...yeah if u have a scout and catch him right as soon as he unseiges his tanks but thats hard to pull off just cuz the overwhelming strength the terran has. Thx for posting this thread Sheth and thx for reading my post everyone.
1ec2a3a4a5g6r7s
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
August 31 2010 01:06 GMT
#244
Thanks a ton Sheth. Hope you keep adding to this, as it is the only detailed guide on zerg I can find/trust on the interwebs.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
August 31 2010 01:19 GMT
#245
I will get back to answering comments. Expect a super response shortly. Thanks everyone. <3 Sheth
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Konsume
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada466 Posts
August 31 2010 02:04 GMT
#246
I have a question for you

What are you doing vs reapers to mass marauders switch. Seems that all my lings get killed by reapers and than roaches are getting owned by marauders HARD


ALSO... I'm datamining...

what mouse, keybord and head set are you using?
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
peon.power
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany43 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 02:07:01
September 10 2010 02:00 GMT
#247
Liquipedia says to 13Pool 13Gas, but every replay i watch people go

13Gas 13Pool 14Overlord, 14Drone, 15 Queen, 17Ling, Research Speed, 18 Hatch

At least this is how i play it atm, but it feels incorrect. What is the correct BO?
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
September 10 2010 10:46 GMT
#248
ahh the classic thread always needs a bump sometimes . thanks peon.
i like cheese
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
September 10 2010 11:46 GMT
#249
great guide, thanks for sharing
JrK
Profile Joined June 2010
United States283 Posts
September 10 2010 13:10 GMT
#250
On September 10 2010 20:46 amorpheus wrote:
great guide, thanks for sharing



Agreed, thank you! Your work is highly appreciated!
JrKjrKJrk
Huko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States324 Posts
September 20 2010 04:57 GMT
#251
I apologize if this question was answered earlier (fairly sure I didn't read it in the guide.) What are the different circumstances you use the first energy on queen? Like do you ever go tumor first, or what do you suggest doing?

Awesome guide, thanks a bunch!
Rebornx3
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada200 Posts
September 20 2010 14:55 GMT
#252
Does Sheth still use 13 pool 13 extractor vs P or did it change..?
All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them.
Dragon768
Profile Joined November 2010
Malaysia4 Posts
November 07 2010 19:44 GMT
#253
@Sheth Is this still valid after the patch 1.1.2 (specially the ZvT)? Any new guides coming soon?
Rise and rise again till the lambs become lions.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
November 18 2010 17:13 GMT
#254
Well I'm back playing and thinking about SC2. I'm not sure if I'll update this page or if I'll start a new page for a new guide. I'm kind of thinking I want to talk about ZvZ because I don't see too much written about it. A lot of the opening guide information for ZvT is wrong now because of the Barracks requiring a supply depot, but the ZvP stuff is still pretty solid IMO. If you have any questions here I'll try and answer them. (Over 2 pages of old questions I missed I'm not gonna re go over them because you've probably gotten the answer yourself!) So if you want me to answer something while I work on a guide let me know!

I'm finally moving out this month, so I'll start having time for SC2 again. Life is crazy.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 17:21:40
November 18 2010 17:21 GMT
#255
On November 19 2010 02:13 Sheth wrote:
Well I'm back playing and thinking about SC2. I'm not sure if I'll update this page or if I'll start a new page for a new guide. I'm kind of thinking I want to talk about ZvZ because I don't see too much written about it. A lot of the opening guide information for ZvT is wrong now because of the Barracks requiring a supply depot, but the ZvP stuff is still pretty solid IMO. If you have any questions here I'll try and answer them. (Over 2 pages of old questions I missed I'm not gonna re go over them because you've probably gotten the answer yourself!) So if you want me to answer something while I work on a guide let me know!

I'm finally moving out this month, so I'll start having time for SC2 again. Life is crazy.



Nice to have you back This thread definitily boosted my zvp back when you started it
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Prev 1 11 12 13 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 30m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 149
Codebar 41
StarCraft: Brood War
Flash 308
Leta 270
Dewaltoss 38
Noble 26
ToSsGirL 23
Stork 16
NotJumperer 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm133
League of Legends
JimRising 694
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K626
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor217
Other Games
summit1g10338
trigger2
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 900
Counter-Strike
PGL761
Other Games
gamesdonequick725
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 48
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 46
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler32
League of Legends
• Stunt626
• HappyZerGling122
Other Games
• WagamamaTV289
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
30m
Snow vs Soma
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2h 30m
WardiTV Invitational
4h 30m
CrankTV Team League
5h 30m
BASILISK vs Streamerzone
Team Liquid vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Vitality vs Team Falcon
BSL Team A[vengers]
7h 30m
Gypsy vs nOOB
JDConan vs Scan
RSL Revival
9h 30m
Wardi Open
1d 4h
CrankTV Team League
1d 5h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
EC S1
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.