• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:02
CEST 03:02
KST 10:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down0StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Why Protoss Struggles on ASL (Ft. Shuttle, Tulbo) Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? Remastered crash fix suggestions [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C [ASL22] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7920 users

[G] ZvP Sheth's Guide - Page 13

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 All
Twaxter
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada190 Posts
August 26 2010 21:50 GMT
#241
Thank you for the assistance.
Lose and Learn
ToxNub
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada805 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 22:08:35
August 26 2010 22:05 GMT
#242
Edit: confused myself
SARgeant47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States24 Posts
August 26 2010 22:24 GMT
#243
I like the 3 changelings to block his ramp while u harass. Fantastic idea even if he knows they rnt his marines/zealots it will still delay him a critical few seconds u need to finish up the harass and leave before he kills ur force. I think if used with nydus against an immobile terran would b a good way to get him out of position then when he kills ur changelings retreat and then attack his front. Make that slow terran move so u can pick him off little by little. (One of the reasons y I think zerg is OP and not terran cuz ppl just havent discovered the true value of zergs speed against the slow armies) I never understand y zerg or protoss just run straight into the terran army like they might win...yeah if u have a scout and catch him right as soon as he unseiges his tanks but thats hard to pull off just cuz the overwhelming strength the terran has. Thx for posting this thread Sheth and thx for reading my post everyone.
1ec2a3a4a5g6r7s
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
August 31 2010 01:06 GMT
#244
Thanks a ton Sheth. Hope you keep adding to this, as it is the only detailed guide on zerg I can find/trust on the interwebs.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
August 31 2010 01:19 GMT
#245
I will get back to answering comments. Expect a super response shortly. Thanks everyone. <3 Sheth
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Konsume
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada466 Posts
August 31 2010 02:04 GMT
#246
I have a question for you

What are you doing vs reapers to mass marauders switch. Seems that all my lings get killed by reapers and than roaches are getting owned by marauders HARD


ALSO... I'm datamining...

what mouse, keybord and head set are you using?
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
peon.power
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany43 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 02:07:01
September 10 2010 02:00 GMT
#247
Liquipedia says to 13Pool 13Gas, but every replay i watch people go

13Gas 13Pool 14Overlord, 14Drone, 15 Queen, 17Ling, Research Speed, 18 Hatch

At least this is how i play it atm, but it feels incorrect. What is the correct BO?
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
September 10 2010 10:46 GMT
#248
ahh the classic thread always needs a bump sometimes . thanks peon.
i like cheese
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
September 10 2010 11:46 GMT
#249
great guide, thanks for sharing
JrK
Profile Joined June 2010
United States283 Posts
September 10 2010 13:10 GMT
#250
On September 10 2010 20:46 amorpheus wrote:
great guide, thanks for sharing



Agreed, thank you! Your work is highly appreciated!
JrKjrKJrk
Huko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States324 Posts
September 20 2010 04:57 GMT
#251
I apologize if this question was answered earlier (fairly sure I didn't read it in the guide.) What are the different circumstances you use the first energy on queen? Like do you ever go tumor first, or what do you suggest doing?

Awesome guide, thanks a bunch!
Rebornx3
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada200 Posts
September 20 2010 14:55 GMT
#252
Does Sheth still use 13 pool 13 extractor vs P or did it change..?
All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them.
Dragon768
Profile Joined November 2010
Malaysia4 Posts
November 07 2010 19:44 GMT
#253
@Sheth Is this still valid after the patch 1.1.2 (specially the ZvT)? Any new guides coming soon?
Rise and rise again till the lambs become lions.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
November 18 2010 17:13 GMT
#254
Well I'm back playing and thinking about SC2. I'm not sure if I'll update this page or if I'll start a new page for a new guide. I'm kind of thinking I want to talk about ZvZ because I don't see too much written about it. A lot of the opening guide information for ZvT is wrong now because of the Barracks requiring a supply depot, but the ZvP stuff is still pretty solid IMO. If you have any questions here I'll try and answer them. (Over 2 pages of old questions I missed I'm not gonna re go over them because you've probably gotten the answer yourself!) So if you want me to answer something while I work on a guide let me know!

I'm finally moving out this month, so I'll start having time for SC2 again. Life is crazy.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 17:21:40
November 18 2010 17:21 GMT
#255
On November 19 2010 02:13 Sheth wrote:
Well I'm back playing and thinking about SC2. I'm not sure if I'll update this page or if I'll start a new page for a new guide. I'm kind of thinking I want to talk about ZvZ because I don't see too much written about it. A lot of the opening guide information for ZvT is wrong now because of the Barracks requiring a supply depot, but the ZvP stuff is still pretty solid IMO. If you have any questions here I'll try and answer them. (Over 2 pages of old questions I missed I'm not gonna re go over them because you've probably gotten the answer yourself!) So if you want me to answer something while I work on a guide let me know!

I'm finally moving out this month, so I'll start having time for SC2 again. Life is crazy.



Nice to have you back This thread definitily boosted my zvp back when you started it
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Prev 1 11 12 13 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#99
PiGStarcraft408
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft408
ByuN 206
ViBE163
RuFF_SC2 87
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2033
910 37
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Dota 2
monkeys_forever954
League of Legends
JimRising 528
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1306
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox488
PPMD53
Other Games
summit1g11923
Day[9].tv1289
shahzam693
C9.Mang0502
XaKoH 265
Maynarde116
WinterStarcraft77
Mew2King34
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1873
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 107
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Day9tv1289
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
8h 58m
Kung Fu Cup
9h 58m
Replay Cast
22h 58m
KCM Race Survival
1d 8h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 9h
Cure vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
OSC
1d 20h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
4 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
4 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.