[M] (2) ESV Clearwater - Page 3

On January 05 2012 07:31 EatThePath wrote:
What prompted those changes in 0.3?

You could use smaller (like 4x4) rocks partially overlapping to require more time and effort for the removal of the center obstacles. In my games these rocks have been important early and the open space is fine lategame... so I don't understand a permanent obstacle at all.

The natural back door is fine in my games but I guess it doesn't hurt to make it smaller. :\

On January 05 2012 07:42 IronManSC wrote:


I've had over a dozen games played yesterday with a few grandmasters, LiquidRet, a wannabe oGsMC, and a few masters. Most of the observers were platinum+. They all concluded that the center rocks were unique, but worthless after the early game. At first I was suggested to raise the HP by one player, but the rest said it was not a good idea and that I should just put a small, permanent doodad there instead. I have to take their word for it.

The back door to the natural needed to be shortened, as indicated by all these players, because for a terran or protoss to fast expand, those rocks can post a threat (moreover, the width of the ramp). I needed to give defenders more confidence of securing that back door.

On January 04 2012 04:50 IronManSC wrote:


It was previously like this. I've gotten too many suggested comments to make it a cliff.

On January 05 2012 16:13 WniO wrote:

well make the boundaries obvious without the cliff... idk rocks or stark color contrast.

On January 05 2012 19:13 Tumor wrote:
Just impresive have to try it with friends

On January 05 2012 07:42 IronManSC wrote:


I've had over a dozen games played yesterday with a few grandmasters, LiquidRet, a wannabe oGsMC, and a few masters. Most of the observers were platinum+. They all concluded that the center rocks were unique, but worthless after the early game. At first I was suggested to raise the HP by one player, but the rest said it was not a good idea and that I should just put a small, permanent doodad there instead. I have to take their word for it.

The back door to the natural needed to be shortened, as indicated by all these players, because for a terran or protoss to fast expand, those rocks can post a threat (moreover, the width of the ramp). I needed to give defenders more confidence of securing that back door.

On January 06 2012 13:20 Chargelot wrote:
ESV is lucky to have you Iron. If you need someone to publish it to EU let me know, I've still got spaces available (only hosting RetroSpork 4v4 by Namrufus at the moment).

On January 06 2012 14:46 coolcor wrote:


What if you took that timer that made the xel'naga tower on GSL xel'naga fortress blow up after a certain time and gave it to the rocks/doodad so they would go away after they became worthless? Or is that even worse than changing the HP?