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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On December 11 2011 19:52 Big J wrote: how many minerals are on the backdoor blockers? (already imagining a 1-1-1 with mules to open up a backdoor entrence  )I don't know, but a good way to fix this is to stack several mineral sets on top of each other, each with 5 minerals in them. | ||
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Ragoo
Germany2773 Posts
On December 11 2011 20:42 iGrok wrote: I don't know, but a good way to fix this is to stack several mineral sets on top of each other, each with 5 minerals in them. Then you can't see how many minerals there are tho and workers can mine all of them at the same time. | ||
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Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
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Mereel
Germany895 Posts
first off the hole that i added. the thing is, on destination the area infront of the natural is freaking huge and such huge areas usually dont work in sc2. first, with the modern unit clumping there is no need for them and second, it favours zerg. Open Area: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/d0ZH1l.jpg) So i added that hole to create 2 chokes that can be used to forcefield and just to break it up a little. the chokes are still pretty big though. Open Area with hole: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rTLZ0l.jpg) i know its hard to see proportions as a nonmapmaker and only with a overview picture. if some americans wants to host it on US that would be great, so u could check it out urself. secondly the bridges. the area around them is still pretty massiv, so they are just another choke to break it up. and furthermore there are enough side pathes to move around if u dont want to fight there. and thirdly the main, its perfectly fine. its not 446whatever (the editor is dumb when u add random minerals somewhere) try it ingame pls | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10500 Posts
On December 10 2011 11:29 -NegativeZero- wrote: I agree that the holes should be removed, they seem unnecessary. However, I think the bridges are fine, since the entire point is that they are 3 narrow chokepoints - it's a risk to move your army through and get caught in the middle, but the advantage is that the path is shorter. If you don't want to take that risk, there is the other, wider path around the side of the map... i know thats the point, but lets just test. because sentry/collosi would just be totally unfair on this map. forcefield an army that is walking thru the bridges then get collosi in the back. | ||
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Mereel
Germany895 Posts
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
Really? No one has commented on low ground siegeable main mineral line? Even if terran does not do that, the cliff near main makes other haras much stronger. Huge ground area behind main (and natural) mineral lines will make mutas much much less useful. Forcing 4baseVS4base in this map against zerg seems pretty easy. It is borderline hilarious how strong bunker rushes are in this map. The zerg has to block so much space to not let terran build an insta win construction site. + Show Spoiler [example] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vmJIy.jpg) Also it is silly how open the cliffs above natural are, but still are unpathable. | ||
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Grebliv
Iceland800 Posts
On December 11 2011 19:52 Big J wrote: how many minerals are on the backdoor blockers? (already imagining a 1-1-1 with mules to open up a backdoor entrence )If scouted at all that attack will always be worse than a frontal 1-1-1 so i sincerely don't see the problem. it's a normal 1-1-1 up a 1x ramp, which you can do at the front as well but here there are minerals blocking so you need to spend mules on that instead of getting $$$. The only case where you don't have to go up the 1x ramp at the front is when there's already an expo there which makes this alternate path even worse. Only thing i could see this getting muled for (or just opened at all by an offensive terran) is for sneaky hellion runbys very specific cheese and perhaps some sneaky bio "pokes" (but not really). tldr: If scouted i don't see the problem with this sort of backdoor. Just like in bw it can open up for some specific shenanigans but i almost entirely relies on not getting scouted and usually just serves as a later game shortcut/path for the defender. | ||
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Kabel
Sweden1746 Posts
If so, where can I find the map file? | ||
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antehero
Afghanistan1 Post
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
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Meerel
Germany713 Posts
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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
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algue
France1436 Posts
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Qwyn
United States2781 Posts
Love the aesthetics. Water at the top is a bit out of place, though. Hurts my eyes. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12042 Posts
Is there any chance you could port this map to HoTS if you're still looking at TL OP? | ||
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