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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
Yes I was extremely skeptical of the 3rd for a long time. Eventually, I just left it the way it was, and in my opinion it paid off quite well for me, thanks to the TPW team for convincing me lol. @TheAmazombie: Thanks! I hope to talk to you shortly and mabye we can get another show going soon  @Antares777: Thanks! | ||
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horsepire
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
On November 17 2011 16:53 horsepire wrote: Saw your map on NASL tonight and I just had to pop in and say congrats, it looks beautiful! Thanks! ^^ You can expect some minor changes to the middle. I will be reducing the amount of trees to make sure the FPS is working and that it doesn't cause players to lag. | ||
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
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Poplicola
Sweden15 Posts
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Andreas
Norway214 Posts
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oIP7e.jpg) The current version and looks of Ohana (in the OP) will remain the same for ladder or general use. | ||
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LunaSaint
United Kingdom620 Posts
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wrl
United States209 Posts
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
On December 16 2011 14:05 wrl wrote: I think the changes suck and its indicative of NASL's poor choices of judgment. The original is a far superior map. This is the worst feedback anyone could receive about anything. Care to elaborate instead of making snap judgements pete? | ||
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Loweryder
Canada11 Posts
For the RE versoin, are the mineral patches for the base below the upper left main supposed to be facing the main? they aren't for the bottom right position.. and the left gas for the base above the bottom right main is very close to the cliff edge it seems, maybe something you just forgot to edit. Aesthetics are excellent. Not sure about moving the 5th closer to the main to become more of a fourth... In my amateur opinion, the central area seems rather open (and thus slightly zerg-favoured), and having that contested fifth made it more difficult for zerg to secure since it was very close to the opponent's side of the map. Defending 5 base as zerg on RE seems a lot easier, which no longer counteracts the middle openness. I may look at some more replays from the TLopen to see if my argument makes any sense... how was the win % for zvt and pvt in the open? I remember seeing it posted somewhere but I can't find it anymore  | ||
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
NASL REQUESTED THESE CHANGES: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oToah.jpg) WITH NASL'S SUGGESTIONS, I CREATED OHANA RE ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/m8nes.jpg) As for answering your question Loweryder, NASL has told me they wanted to use this map, but they want it to be balanced appropriately for their needs apparently, so they gave me a heads up about it and drew out their balance suggestions. Ohana RE is the finished product for their request. It should be ready mid-friday. Also keep in mind the original version of Ohana will remain the same. This is just a changed version under NASL's request. | ||
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lheiken
United States1 Post
Ohana: Total games played: 105 -PvZ --- PvT - ZvT 17-16 / 8-9 / 12-4 Not sure why the old layout wound up skewed in ZvT, but moving the bases closer should fix that. Btw, has to feel great to have your map be in NASL season 3 and the favorite to win the TL map contest. Congrats. | ||
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diLLa
Netherlands247 Posts
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MachineGunPanda
Sweden14 Posts
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
On December 16 2011 20:04 diLLa wrote: I think i like RE better than the original one, good job Thank you ^^ Hopefully NASL likes it hehe On December 17 2011 00:44 MachineGunPanda wrote: This is indeed a beautiful map. I am not map expert and I am only a platinum players so I can only judge this map from my limited experience. I think the original Ohana is more interesting. I can understand if NASL wants a more standard map with the bases being more nit tight together and sort of making it more split down the middle type of map to create "balance". And I say balance carefully because we all know it is a most subjective opinion. But I like the original because it brings a different kind of game play, The thought behind the map is technical play right? So making it more standard is a little boring in my view, yet I am really impressed about the dedication of map maker IronManSC and his talent to stay to the concept despite the changes that NASL wanted to do. A sign of a great map maker for sure. The original version of Ohana is designed to create technical play. I know that people really admire the first version of ohana, which is why you can rest assured that the original version of Ohana will be still be published as TPW Ohana on battle.net, while Ohana RE will be for NASL's season 3 map pool. They gave me changes and I applied them to fit their needs. This is the job of a map maker. As time goes on, one of these versions will become the most popular, and chances are in that particular time, that version will be the official, but it is not final at this point as to which version of ohana will be used for everything. | ||
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