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winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

March 09 2011 17:49 GMT

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Specifications:

3 Spawn locations

12 mineral bases(0 gold bases)
-main has 8 patches
-natural has 8 patches
-third has 8 patches
-fourfth has 8 patches

3 Xel'naga Towers

Size: 162x151 playable (but it has a lot of vacant space)

Distances:
Nat2nat: 29 seconds

Straight forward bug is fixed.
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Published: KR, EU(Old ver. for MoTM)

dezi

Germany1536 Posts

March 09 2011 18:11 GMT

Be sure to check the MotM#4 in April (only 3 spawn maps allowed then)

prodiG

Canada2016 Posts

March 09 2011 18:20 GMT

Lol, as soon as I saw this I thought "this looks like a korean map" and then I saw it was posted by winpark.

I like it, seems really straight forward bug well executed.

Ragoo

Germany2773 Posts

March 09 2011 18:29 GMT

Wow, it's so cool to see the Korean map makers post their maps here and even use the map analyzer ^^

What can I say about the map... looks really solid and standard (for a 3 player map). I like it.
I don't like the bright green, just not a fan of this unnatural look. But that's totally subjective

skatbone

United States1005 Posts

March 09 2011 20:02 GMT

Beautiful map. I love the symmetry...odd considering it's a 3-player map. I also like the easy natural and the distance from the wide ramp to the natural. Nice, weaving pathways that make attacking a commitment. I'd play it if it was up on NA.

adso

718 Posts

March 09 2011 22:24 GMT

Great green mean machine!

Is the 3 player trend catching on?!...., if so, this is soooo gonna be awesome...

are those losb around the xelnagas or just doodads? ...

Nahhh couldn't be losb,

Or could it?

EatThePath

United States3943 Posts

March 09 2011 22:28 GMT

I like the look and the layout. The distinct appearance of the mains is a nice touch. There are definitely positional inequities, some of which are more subtle. One example: if you are clockwise (6 oclock vs 2 oclock), taking the closest tower between you seems both safer and more powerful. You might even expand toward your opponent because the tower guards you so well. It's impossible to say if these add up to imbalanced positions, but I don't think so. It feels like BW maps where close enough is good enough.

One thing I would consider: the diagonal ramps are always difference size than the vertical/horizontal, as I'm sure you know. You might want to use some doodads on the ramp to adjust the width so they are exactly equivalent for forcefields and whatnot. Testbug uses this at 9oclock.

Also, thanks for posting here! =D

Antares777

United States1971 Posts

March 09 2011 23:08 GMT

nevermind

Penke

Sweden346 Posts

March 09 2011 23:58 GMT

A lot of the three player maps so far has been looking very good, and this is certainly not an exception.

The map looks aestethically as well, I like how each main has its own theme, nicely done

forelmashi

421 Posts

March 10 2011 19:40 GMT

#10

looks nice.. uncanny in a way

winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

March 11 2011 14:33 GMT

#11

Available soon

Gentso

United States2218 Posts

March 11 2011 14:58 GMT

#12

Very, very nice map. I'd rather see this over crossfire se used in tournaments.

winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

March 12 2011 18:39 GMT

#13

Third has 8 patches now.

winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

March 20 2011 10:26 GMT

#14

Natural is more open. and Xeph will request NA,EU uploaders to publish this map.

adso

718 Posts

March 20 2011 12:03 GMT

#15

Sorry but you got me intrigued

Are those Line Of Sight Blockers trees around the 3 center Xwatch towers?
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or just plain trees

winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

March 20 2011 12:11 GMT

#16

Those are Line Of Sight Blockers.

adso

718 Posts

March 20 2011 12:18 GMT

#17

<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

i hoped they were

Gfire

United States1699 Posts

March 20 2011 21:31 GMT

#18

I like the overall design of the map, it's quite good. I feel it could use a little more openness for some battlefields though, I think Zerg would have a hard time. Other than that, though, very well done.

winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

March 24 2011 18:25 GMT

#19

Center area has been expanded.

superezekiel

United States35 Posts

March 29 2011 01:46 GMT

#20

This needs to be on NA servers

CBWeyland

United States13 Posts

March 29 2011 04:11 GMT

#21

On March 10 2011 05:02 skatbone wrote:
I'd play it if it was up on NA.

Me too! Man none of the nice melees are on NA lately lol.

IronManSC

United States2119 Posts

March 29 2011 04:51 GMT

#22

According to my analysis, I spotted this (i dont know if it's been brought up already), but is this choke, circled in red, intended in being smaller than the rest around the middle area???

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winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

March 29 2011 12:34 GMT

#23

Thanks for your opinion. I've fixed this problem.

winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

April 04 2011 16:08 GMT

#24

I Submitted it to MoTM #4..-_-;;;;

EatThePath

United States3943 Posts

April 04 2011 16:24 GMT

#25

On April 05 2011 01:08 winpark wrote:
I Submitted it to MoTM #4..-_-;;;;

Awesome! Now we're all doomed. =D

dimfish

United States663 Posts

April 04 2011 16:24 GMT

#26

winpark, you dropped a hint about a 3p symmetry calculator in your motm 4 entry post. Can you tell us more about that? Do you have any interest in adding the algorithm into the mapanalyzer?

winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

April 04 2011 17:03 GMT

#27

hmm. I 'm not able to add algorithm.. but the below link has what I know about that...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207097

winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

April 11 2011 12:58 GMT

#28

I cannot upload replays..

lovablemikey

264 Posts

April 11 2011 16:46 GMT

#29

What a cool map! It's nicely decorated too.

Looks solid. I don't have any complaints. What I like most about it is it's simplicity.

BatCat

Austria630 Posts

April 11 2011 20:45 GMT

#30

Can't find it on EU.

tehemperorer

United States2183 Posts

April 11 2011 20:58 GMT

#31

Looks like a smaller Tal Darim, which is really cool. I really like the layout too, pretty sick! The main ramp placement is an example of a great way to lengthen rush distances on smaller maps!

prodiG

Canada2016 Posts

April 11 2011 21:26 GMT

#32

On April 11 2011 21:58 winpark wrote:
I cannot upload replays..

You can't upload replays of custom maps to the common replay sites but you can use any kind of file hosting, such as http://www.mediafire.com

Unless you're talking about not being able to upload replays of practice games from pro Koreans, which I understand completely~

neobowman

Canada3324 Posts

April 11 2011 21:30 GMT

#33

Reminds me of

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Looks cool.

winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

April 12 2011 00:28 GMT

#34

I upload a replay.(amateur master

) let me know if it works well.
http://www.mediafire.com/?tx2kpckk9wfrbb7

Phyrigian

New Zealand1332 Posts

April 12 2011 05:25 GMT

#35

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winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

April 12 2011 17:56 GMT

#36

MoTM #4

Masada
Balance/Originality/Fun/Aesthetics/Total
8.2 / 6.8 / 7.3 / 7.5/29.8

I'm happy.

hmm.. How about this?

http://www.intothemap.com/gnu/bbs/board.php?bo_table=pds_melee&wr_id=56507&sca=&sfl=wr_subject&stx=Resolver&sop=and

Do you remind Terminus?

Anyone can find similar maps easily. But I want to let you know that most of them are not the same.

prodiG

Canada2016 Posts

April 12 2011 18:34 GMT

#37

winpark really hit that one on the head, lol. When it comes to relatively standard layouts (maps that aren't completely out of this world) they'll often look like older maps anyway~

sandrab

Austria9 Posts

April 12 2011 18:47 GMT

#38

thats no a reality

lefix

Germany1082 Posts

April 12 2011 18:49 GMT

#39

especially when it comes to 3p maps, if you want to be fairly standard, well balanced and no ridiculous map size, i feel like theres only a handfull of possible layouts with some variation.
but i don't think that was meant as a crit anyway :D

also, thanks for uploading that replay. i wish people would do that more often

winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

April 17 2011 16:47 GMT

#40

I fixed a few problems.

winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

May 28 2011 10:58 GMT

#41

I updated my maps. The 6 center stairs become smaller.

dimfish

United States663 Posts

May 28 2011 14:46 GMT

#42

On May 28 2011 19:58 winpark wrote:
I updated my maps. The 8 center stairs become smaller.

That's interesting, what motivated you to make that change?

winpark

Korea (South)68 Posts

May 29 2011 04:55 GMT

#43

I want to increase the importance of center hill.

WarSame

Canada1950 Posts

May 29 2011 05:49 GMT

#44

Wow, I absolutely love the layout in the middle of the map. However, I do have a bit of a problem with the aesthetics, especially in the mains. It may change when I see it in game but I don't really like the textures that were used. The textures used are sort of non-sensical/logical, and they don't really look great either(which would be an excuse for using non-sensical textures). Besides that I absolutely love this map(and it does remind me of Longinus, which is a great thing in my opinion). This could turn out to be a VERY balanced map, and I can't wait to play it.

Maximumraver

Netherlands124 Posts

May 30 2011 06:29 GMT

#45

I love the aesthetics

Trufflez

Australia174 Posts

May 30 2011 09:35 GMT

#46

I feel like you could squeeze in a gold expo or some rocks, although I like the general setup reapers could be a little ridiculous on this map and the attack paths could certainly be clearer, pretty good though.

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