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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 10 2009 22:49 GMT
#901
On June 11 2009 06:26 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2009 05:47 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Yeah, I really don't see Fantasy being above Skyhigh. He's just underperformed too much this month for one game to wipe that away.

Well let's not forget his impressive OSL performances and the fact he was 6-0 last month (excluding the final).


So? We don't care what happened two months ago, we only care about what happened last month. :p
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 10 2009 23:00 GMT
#902
On June 11 2009 07:49 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2009 06:26 Klive5ive wrote:
On June 11 2009 05:47 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Yeah, I really don't see Fantasy being above Skyhigh. He's just underperformed too much this month for one game to wipe that away.

Well let's not forget his impressive OSL performances and the fact he was 6-0 last month (excluding the final).


So? We don't care what happened two months ago, we only care about what happened last month. :p

Not entirely true, but stuff that happened last month is definitely more important than two months ago.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 11 2009 00:10 GMT
#903
Btw what happened with the project of pushing the PR release date closer to the beginning of the month?

It's the 11th already. (forum time)
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 11 2009 00:31 GMT
#904
It comes when it comes. Its just the Power Rank, not that important.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-11 01:18:11
June 11 2009 01:17 GMT
#905
On June 11 2009 09:10 SuperArc wrote:
Btw what happened with the project of pushing the PR release date closer to the beginning of the month?

It's the 11th already. (forum time)

Sorry, I meant the 10th my time (PDT). And yes, the PR is imminent. Keep in mind that last month's was published on the 15th, so I am sticking to my promise of pushing the release date closer to the first.

Also consider that several huge (HUGE) games were played last night that, if not included in the rank, would make it pretty freaking boring (not that many games have been played since last rank, since offlines and MST are done but OSL Ro16 and MSL haven't started yet).

Thanks for your patience!
✌
roflMe
Profile Joined May 2009
United States40 Posts
June 11 2009 03:46 GMT
#906
w/e at least Fakesteve isn't doing it
haha
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 11 2009 12:21 GMT
#907
+ Show Spoiler +
Kal is 7-3 in his last 10, against tough opponents, he should be on the PR again
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 11 2009 12:43 GMT
#908
The more he puts off the PR the more it should change. :X
Remember Violet.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 11 2009 12:45 GMT
#909
Today's games will change the PR a lot again...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
June 11 2009 12:51 GMT
#910
On June 11 2009 21:45 SuperArc wrote:
Today's games will change the PR a lot again...


I know :/


Still crazy to think Bisu has only lost 4 TLPD games since Batoo though.
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 11 2009 15:45 GMT
#911
Yeah the only complicated thing about today really is that Kal deserves a spot. The top 3 are still obvious, even with Bisu dropping a game, and we all know Leta-Flash-Skyhigh-Fantasy are getting spots, along with Stork and Violet. So instead of Kwanro or some other fairly well off player we get a recently well performing Kal.

2 Zerg, 4 terrans, 4 protoss, woot. Poor zerg.
Remember Violet.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 11 2009 15:59 GMT
#912
two zergs in the top3, no need to say poor zerg :p
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-11 17:18:40
June 11 2009 17:14 GMT
#913
I have some slightly disappointing news about this month's rank: I finished writing it last night (several hours before MSL games), but because of some logistical problems it (obviously) wasn't published. Preventing these problems was within my capacity, so I apologize.

I know I promised a June 10 release, and I'm really sorry to have to back off on that promise - but given the results of last night's MSL games, I will need to rewrite some of my rank. That means you'll see it sometime later today. I know the delay is frustrating (and makes me look foolish ) but at this point I think delaying the rank a bit longer is worth making sure that it's up to date considering last night's games. Again, I'm sorry (I really hate missing deadlines!).
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Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
June 11 2009 17:39 GMT
#914
Well I don't like the idea of changing the Power Rank that has already been made. I mean what if Jaedong loses in the MSL too? And Bisu wasn't eliminated,so I don't see any reason why JD should be no1 after tonight because that changed absolutely nothing. And although Effort did advance 2-0 tonight, he is not there yet to be no1. Anyway, good luck with changing the PR JWD,I know it's a shitty job, and is hard,but try predicting something too,not just make ranks based on performances. So good luck,just please don't change the rank again tomorrow if Stork happens to get eliminated from the OSL.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 11 2009 17:40 GMT
#915
JD won't be no1, don't worry. But I don't see why Effort shouldn't take #1.

Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
June 11 2009 17:53 GMT
#916
On June 12 2009 02:40 SuperArc wrote:
JD won't be no1, don't worry. But I don't see why Effort shouldn't take #1.


I wouldn't worry,I love both JD and Bisu. Hell, I love Effort too,but considering the ass-whooping Bisu gave him and the fact that both Bisu and JD have been total monsters lately and neither is dropped from any leagues yet, dropping only few games themselves, I don't see how Effort could be no1 until he truly proves himself in the leagues(ro16 is not enough), or both Bisu and JD are starting to lose more games and dropping out of leagues.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-11 17:53:52
June 11 2009 17:53 GMT
#917
On June 12 2009 02:14 JWD wrote:
I have some slightly disappointing news about this month's rank: I finished writing it last night (several hours before MSL games), but because of some logistical problems it (obviously) wasn't published. Preventing these problems was within my capacity, so I apologize.

I know I promised a June 10 release, and I'm really sorry to have to back off on that promise - but given the results of last night's MSL games, I will need to rewrite some of my rank. That means you'll see it sometime later today. I know the delay is frustrating (and makes me look foolish ) but at this point I think delaying the rank a bit longer is worth making sure that it's up to date considering last night's games. Again, I'm sorry (I really hate missing deadlines!).

At least JWD says he's sorry, not sg like "dont whine you fools i'm the king bitch of the universe i do what i want", i have confidence he wont put s1 who did not see the ro8 yet on nr 1 rank, tonight's changes should be regarding Kal probably and a couple extra comments on the players here and there.

Also congratulation for your TL icon, JWD, i'm hoping for a good PR
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
June 11 2009 17:54 GMT
#918
bisu should still be number 1. Jaedong lost a game in pl, then won in ace, bisu did the same. Bisu lost a game in msl, but beat Jaedong. There performances are essentially the same, just as they were a few days ago, but bisu is still the more well rounded player. Though effort and kal should probably go up/get on the PR given their recent play.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-11 18:11:39
June 11 2009 17:59 GMT
#919
You know, after JWD's comments I'm anticipating the following:

1. (Z)EffOrt
2. (Z)Jaedong
3. (P)Bisu

To be honest, it's getting harder and harder to justify (Z)EffOrt not being #1. Beginning on April 19th, this guy has won 25/28 games. That's an 89% winning percentage. That's insane. In that streak, he has now beaten Jaedong, Stork, and Flash, as well as Luxury, Mind, July, and UpMaGiC. His wins against lesser players have been utterly dominant (see: SangHo) and his wins against stronger players have been gutty (see: Jaedong and Mind).

I'm pointing out his long run statistics, because I think they show that he is not just flavor of the week, but has been consistently dominant for some time now.

The PR are an expression of who is playing the best SC right now, and I've always given a personal edge to established players like Bisu and Jaedong, because I know that they'll come back, and step it up when they need to. But at this point, even I'm not sure I'd take another player over EffOrt. I said a page ago that I think EffOrt will win a starleague soon. At this point, I think EffOrt might be the favorite to win OSL or MSL this season. Hell, I'd give him a fair chance of beating Jaedong in GOM.

So honestly, why not #1?

EDIT: More info
+ Show Spoiler +

+ In the same period (4/19 to today), Bisu is 15-4 with a 79% WP. He's beaten Jaedong, Leta, EffOrt, ZerO and Calm in the same period. In the time since the last PR, he is 7-3.
+ Jaedong is actually 17-8 in the same span (4/19 to today) with a 68% WP. Wins against sKyHigh, Luxury, Leta, and Calm. In the time since the last PR, he is 9-3.


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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-11 18:08:06
June 11 2009 18:06 GMT
#920
The way effort is play, I figure it's inevitable he will take the #1 power rank at some point... He reminds me of a young Savior or Jaedong for that matter. So yeah, I don't think you would get nearly the same rage you did about Zero if you posted Effort at #2 or even #1 for that matter.

Also congrats on the blue, I figured it was only a matter of time. I remember you were associated with SC2gg though, did you abandon your duties/membership there?
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