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Power Rank 05/15/2009 - Page 3

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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 04:14:40
May 15 2009 04:09 GMT
#41
I feel lied and betrayed.

EDIT: I just read it, lol at KeSPA. A an overall great read, good job.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
May 15 2009 04:10 GMT
#42
Oh i will kill some T1 fanboys this month.
Moderator<:3-/-<
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 15 2009 04:14 GMT
#43
Everyone around here knows that I am probably the largest anti-fan of Hwaesung on the planet, and probably top 10 anti-jaedong. But even I cannot understand how Jaedong slips from #1 to #4 in the space of a month. What exactly has Jaedong done to slip this far? Well he lost a game to Ganzi, Movie, fantasy and Hyvaa while destroying everyone else in existence. Indeed, he destroyed Ganzi in their next encounter, and finished movie off in the next two game.

Jaedong's play as of this exact moment is as sharp as ever and I would expect him to defeat Fantasy and Zero (and probably bisu) on any given day of the week based off their current skills. Bisu hasn't done anything too fantastic to claim #1, just won his proleague games bashing a bunch of average gamers (bar leta and zero) in games that weren't exactly spectacular. Fantasy has done nothing really to claim #2 - losing to Calm and Hogil and beating a bunch of scrubs (and Jaedong).

And as much as I love Zero, in no way is he deserving of being called #3 at this point - he's probably top 5, but top 3 is a bit too much. Imo

1) Jaedong
2) Bisu
3) Fantasy
4) Zero
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
May 15 2009 04:19 GMT
#44
This is the most controversial power rank since I've been on this site. Will be interesting to see how this turns out.
Jaedong
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
May 15 2009 04:24 GMT
#45
Jaedong should definitely be higher than Zero... Zero qualified through the OSL b/c he played a noname and on super Z-friendly maps... in GOM he beat a 4th string zerg, and he's only been playing on God's Garden and Battle Royal

Also, Skyhigh should be higher than effort, skyhigh's play recently is just unbelievable

and seriously, you can't find a better performer in april/may than thezerg???
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
ShinyGerbil
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada519 Posts
May 15 2009 04:25 GMT
#46
controversial, absolutely. As a jaedong fanboy i can't understand how he dropped like that.
- he lost to fantasy (tried to 2 hatch muta humiliate him)
- he lost to hyvaa (for the first zvz loss in 10 games)
- and he lost to ganzi and movie, both of which he beat right afterwards without breaking a sweat

the most appalling thing i think is Jaedong's placement below Zero. I seriously think if we saw a liquibet of Jaedong vs Zero in the next week, at LEAST 90% would be in favour of jaedong, shouldn't that say something about their relative skill levels?
[s]savior[/s] jaedong fighting! // member of LighT eSports
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
May 15 2009 04:27 GMT
#47
To plexa: Jaedong went 4-4 in non ZvZ matchups since 4/10. (2 losses to Movie!) That isn't #1 PR quality. Jaedong shouldn't get to stay at #1 by default just because he was #1 last month, right? I don't see how someone can honestly think JD played better than Bisu, looking at the last month in isolation.

Probably #2 quality though, considering he still crushes in ZvZ. And Fantasy vs Calm was, ugh, not inspiring.
skating
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
May 15 2009 04:27 GMT
#48
On May 15 2009 13:14 Plexa wrote:
Everyone around here knows that I am probably the largest anti-fan of Hwaesung on the planet, and probably top 10 anti-jaedong. But even I cannot understand how Jaedong slips from #1 to #4 in the space of a month. What exactly has Jaedong done to slip this far? Well he lost a game to Ganzi, Movie, fantasy and Hyvaa while destroying everyone else in existence. Indeed, he destroyed Ganzi in their next encounter, and finished movie off in the next two game.

Jaedong's play as of this exact moment is as sharp as ever and I would expect him to defeat Fantasy and Zero (and probably bisu) on any given day of the week based off their current skills. Bisu hasn't done anything too fantastic to claim #1, just won his proleague games bashing a bunch of average gamers (bar leta and zero) in games that weren't exactly spectacular. Fantasy has done nothing really to claim #2 - losing to Calm and Hogil and beating a bunch of scrubs (and Jaedong).

And as much as I love Zero, in no way is he deserving of being called #3 at this point - he's probably top 5, but top 3 is a bit too much. Imo

1) Jaedong
2) Bisu
3) Fantasy
4) Zero

Just how do you justify jaedong above bisu? Bisu since last powerrank and his losses against Fantasy have beaten everyone beside that sunken\lurk\spore contain that Great did. Also his opponents have been far better than the ones Jaedong have played vs (whom he have dropped 3 games, 4 if you included the one game he dropped in the series against movie)
God Hates a Coward
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 15 2009 04:28 GMT
#49
On May 15 2009 13:19 Avidkeystamper wrote:
This is the most controversial power rank since I've been on this site. Will be interesting to see how this turns out.

QFT. I can agree with Bisu's placement, and MAYBE Fantasy's. That's about it.

Also, rofl @ Thezerg on the PR. Seriously? He hasn't beaten anyone useful. At least by.great took out Bisu and free, then went on a 6 game win streak.
GANDHISAUCE
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
May 15 2009 04:30 GMT
#50
People overate how well Jaedong plays. I think Jaedong being at the 4th spot is pretty fair for a player like him. I don't understand why people like Jaedong that much, he goes into every game with the mindset that I'm going to out apm my opponent. Fantasy vs Jaedong is a clear example of that. Jaedong just goes into the game thinking I'm gonna control 2 groups of mutalisk and kill fantasy with it. He doesn't care about strategy at all.

Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 15 2009 04:33 GMT
#51
Yes Jaedong went through a mini-slump, but if you look at his games atm they are as good as before his slump imo. Bisu #1 isn't unfathomable though, but Jaedong at #4 is - he deserves #2 at the very least.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
May 15 2009 04:33 GMT
#52
On May 15 2009 13:14 Plexa wrote:
Everyone around here knows that I am probably the largest anti-fan of Hwaesung on the planet, and probably top 10 anti-jaedong. But even I cannot understand how Jaedong slips from #1 to #4 in the space of a month. What exactly has Jaedong done to slip this far? Well he lost a game to Ganzi, Movie, fantasy and Hyvaa while destroying everyone else in existence. Indeed, he destroyed Ganzi in their next encounter, and finished movie off in the next two game.

Jaedong's play as of this exact moment is as sharp as ever and I would expect him to defeat Fantasy and Zero (and probably bisu) on any given day of the week based off their current skills. Bisu hasn't done anything too fantastic to claim #1, just won his proleague games bashing a bunch of average gamers (bar leta and zero) in games that weren't exactly spectacular. Fantasy has done nothing really to claim #2 - losing to Calm and Hogil and beating a bunch of scrubs (and Jaedong).

And as much as I love Zero, in no way is he deserving of being called #3 at this point - he's probably top 5, but top 3 is a bit too much. Imo

1) Jaedong
2) Bisu
3) Fantasy
4) Zero

Thank You! JD at number 4? Really? Oh well, it all made sense once I saw the SKT logo.
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 04:34:19
May 15 2009 04:33 GMT
#53
@T.O.P.
Even if that was true, why should different playstyles have an impact on a ranking of how good a player is if they still put up the results? That's your own criteria, you could create a flair-based rank and I'm sure at least some people would agree with your sentiment then.
Jaedong
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
May 15 2009 04:35 GMT
#54
kespa gogogo
CongoJack
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada417 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 04:37:57
May 15 2009 04:35 GMT
#55
On May 15 2009 12:14 Harem wrote:
The SKT fanboyism doesn't show.

At all.

Ya I really agree with this. Jaedong should be higher then Zero I mean comon... Just cuz he had one decent game VS Kal he is all of a sudden the new hotness I don't think so...
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
May 15 2009 04:35 GMT
#56
On May 15 2009 13:33 Fr33t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 13:14 Plexa wrote:
Everyone around here knows that I am probably the largest anti-fan of Hwaesung on the planet, and probably top 10 anti-jaedong. But even I cannot understand how Jaedong slips from #1 to #4 in the space of a month. What exactly has Jaedong done to slip this far? Well he lost a game to Ganzi, Movie, fantasy and Hyvaa while destroying everyone else in existence. Indeed, he destroyed Ganzi in their next encounter, and finished movie off in the next two game.

Jaedong's play as of this exact moment is as sharp as ever and I would expect him to defeat Fantasy and Zero (and probably bisu) on any given day of the week based off their current skills. Bisu hasn't done anything too fantastic to claim #1, just won his proleague games bashing a bunch of average gamers (bar leta and zero) in games that weren't exactly spectacular. Fantasy has done nothing really to claim #2 - losing to Calm and Hogil and beating a bunch of scrubs (and Jaedong).

And as much as I love Zero, in no way is he deserving of being called #3 at this point - he's probably top 5, but top 3 is a bit too much. Imo

1) Jaedong
2) Bisu
3) Fantasy
4) Zero

Thank You! JD at number 4? Really? Oh well, it all made sense once I saw the SKT logo.


don't even need the SKT logo, it's JWD
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 04:40:06
May 15 2009 04:35 GMT
#57
Read Nal-Ra's analysis on the Ganzi vs Jaedong game.....Ganzi played the game of his life to beat Jaedong!

@JWD-I should say, than other than some placing issues I think you did an excellent job presenting your argument for your rankings and even though your logic is somewhat flawed, I can respect that.

I think if we were to make a poll right now, somewhere around 90% of the people here would pick jaedong over zero for this month. In fact, why don't we?
[image loading]

Poll: Who should be ranked higher this month?
(Vote): Jaedong
(Vote): Zero

Daveed
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States236 Posts
May 15 2009 04:36 GMT
#58
Also (as a Jaedong fan), realize that one of his four losses was against a player so good that nal_ra called it a perfect game of TvZ.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 04:37:17
May 15 2009 04:36 GMT
#59
I suggest everyone take at least a minute to think about the poll before voting so the results are more accurate for both parties.
Don't just vote for your favorite player or because you hate one or the other. That's for everyone.
Jaedong
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
May 15 2009 04:37 GMT
#60
Fantastic PR JWD but I just can't get over how in the love of fuck is Zero over Jaedong. Also,I think Flash deserves to be a little higher, tho I like him staying at 8. Otherwise, the Kespa joke was priceless.
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