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Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
November 29 2008 06:04 GMT
#561
On November 29 2008 11:27 OneOther wrote:
Can't believe BeSt lost to some scrub in MSL Prelims....PvP.

I think Best didn't practice for the MSl and was totally drunk or something,he wants to concentrate on the OSL and PL,or at least I hope so,because losing to Inuyasha or what the fuck his name is is really embarassing,especially that he is a KTF toss. Best is really cursed wtih KTF tosses,he lost to Tempest. It's a shame,because they are terrible.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
November 29 2008 06:07 GMT
#562
I think it's because he did the same BO on Medusa, again, and got owned, again.
Jaedong
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 29 2008 07:38 GMT
#563
On November 29 2008 15:07 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I think it's because he did the same BO on Medusa, again, and got owned, again.



Bisu had a disadvantageous BO on Medusa against FREE and WON! I can't believe how the best PL player can loose in MSL prelims
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
November 29 2008 07:55 GMT
#564
But let's not get carried away. Best not qualifying for the MSL is not a tragedy given the fact that he is a seed in OSL and will create a gruop,from which he'll probably qualify. And Medusa is only one map,and he lost anothr map too. I think Best wanted to participate in only one league,and he chose OSL because he is already seeded in it.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 29 2008 08:01 GMT
#565
Talking about not getting carried away...are you really suggesting BeSt dropped out of MSL on purpose because he wanted to play in only OSL? Are you insane? Man, I have a headache all of sudden.

Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 29 2008 08:28 GMT
#566
On November 29 2008 17:01 OneOther wrote:
Talking about not getting carried away...are you really suggesting BeSt dropped out of MSL on purpose because he wanted to play in only OSL? Are you insane? Man, I have a headache all of sudden.




I heard that was a rule back than in SKT. You had to choose one SL you focus on, and PL. Cuz if you were in both SLs than oyu hadnt really time to PL. I dont say it's the case though, just it may be.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
November 29 2008 08:29 GMT
#567
Well,not on purpose,but I think he didn't practice for that too much. He was knocked out of the last MSL too in the prelims,so I think he doesn't really take it seriously. What I wanted to suggest with my really stupid comment is that Best didn't start playing bad,he just didn't take MSL seriously.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 29 2008 08:36 GMT
#568
On November 29 2008 17:28 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2008 17:01 OneOther wrote:
Talking about not getting carried away...are you really suggesting BeSt dropped out of MSL on purpose because he wanted to play in only OSL? Are you insane? Man, I have a headache all of sudden.




I heard that was a rule back than in SKT. You had to choose one SL you focus on, and PL. Cuz if you were in both SLs than oyu hadnt really time to PL. I dont say it's the case though, just it may be.


That's what happened to Bisu this season, and T1 probably dropped at least 1 set because of him being unavailable for so many PL matches. Even if it was an unwritten rule, players have obviously broken it.
Meh
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
November 29 2008 08:49 GMT
#569
I don't think it's out of the question.

For example, the MSL offlines were the week of the GGplay Iris OSL finals and both dropped out 2-0 in the first round. I know that's a different circumstance, but considering Best has finished 2nd and top 4 the last two OSLs, I don't think it's unheard of for him to focus on one starleague and Proleague, considering it's his responsibility to carry the team.

PS I'm not a Best fan, despite my T1 tag.
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
November 29 2008 10:08 GMT
#570
If BeSt didn't want to participate in the msl he would not show up on quals. Is there anyone really thinks he lost on purpose, flush a LOT of kespa points down the toilet along with some of his progamer reputation and PvP powerhouse reputation? That's insane talk.
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
November 29 2008 10:10 GMT
#571
Okay,I'm just desperately trying to find explanation. He can't lose to a lame KTF toss if he played with everything he got. He just can't.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 29 2008 10:21 GMT
#572
On November 29 2008 17:36 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2008 17:28 Geo.Rion wrote:
On November 29 2008 17:01 OneOther wrote:
Talking about not getting carried away...are you really suggesting BeSt dropped out of MSL on purpose because he wanted to play in only OSL? Are you insane? Man, I have a headache all of sudden.




I heard that was a rule back than in SKT. You had to choose one SL you focus on, and PL. Cuz if you were in both SLs than oyu hadnt really time to PL. I dont say it's the case though, just it may be.


That's what happened to Bisu this season, and T1 probably dropped at least 1 set because of him being unavailable for so many PL matches. Even if it was an unwritten rule, players have obviously broken it.
No, this rule was abandoned a long time ago actually Like i beleive it was introduced for the start of the last half of 07? and was revoked start of the 08 season
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traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
November 29 2008 19:53 GMT
#573
On November 29 2008 19:08 Magic84 wrote:
If BeSt didn't want to participate in the msl he would not show up on quals. Is there anyone really thinks he lost on purpose, flush a LOT of kespa points down the toilet along with some of his progamer reputation and PvP powerhouse reputation? That's insane talk.

I'm pretty sure offline qualifiers don't count towards kespa, and I doubt many care about his progamer/pvp reputation re: offline qualifiers except for us.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 29 2008 20:32 GMT
#574
On November 29 2008 19:21 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2008 17:36 baubo wrote:
On November 29 2008 17:28 Geo.Rion wrote:
On November 29 2008 17:01 OneOther wrote:
Talking about not getting carried away...are you really suggesting BeSt dropped out of MSL on purpose because he wanted to play in only OSL? Are you insane? Man, I have a headache all of sudden.




I heard that was a rule back than in SKT. You had to choose one SL you focus on, and PL. Cuz if you were in both SLs than oyu hadnt really time to PL. I dont say it's the case though, just it may be.


That's what happened to Bisu this season, and T1 probably dropped at least 1 set because of him being unavailable for so many PL matches. Even if it was an unwritten rule, players have obviously broken it.
No, this rule was abandoned a long time ago actually Like i beleive it was introduced for the start of the last half of 07? and was revoked start of the 08 season

ah okay good to hear. what a sucky rule ;D
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
November 29 2008 21:24 GMT
#575
On November 30 2008 04:53 traced wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2008 19:08 Magic84 wrote:
If BeSt didn't want to participate in the msl he would not show up on quals. Is there anyone really thinks he lost on purpose, flush a LOT of kespa points down the toilet along with some of his progamer reputation and PvP powerhouse reputation? That's insane talk.

I'm pretty sure offline qualifiers don't count towards kespa, and I doubt many care about his progamer/pvp reputation re: offline qualifiers except for us.

But earning nothing from the next msl season does hurt a lot, that's what i was trying to say. Pretty sure these losses counts too, since they were official matches.

bo3 is a bit random... Firebathero lost 2-0 to terrible Bogus not so long ago, because of the cheeses. Best just choked, like Jaedong when he didn't make it to the autumn osl.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
November 29 2008 22:22 GMT
#576
On November 30 2008 06:24 Magic84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2008 04:53 traced wrote:
On November 29 2008 19:08 Magic84 wrote:
If BeSt didn't want to participate in the msl he would not show up on quals. Is there anyone really thinks he lost on purpose, flush a LOT of kespa points down the toilet along with some of his progamer reputation and PvP powerhouse reputation? That's insane talk.

I'm pretty sure offline qualifiers don't count towards kespa, and I doubt many care about his progamer/pvp reputation re: offline qualifiers except for us.

But earning nothing from the next msl season does hurt a lot, that's what i was trying to say. Pretty sure these losses counts too, since they were official matches.

bo3 is a bit random... Firebathero lost 2-0 to terrible Bogus not so long ago, because of the cheeses. Best just choked, like Jaedong when he didn't make it to the autumn osl.


I think Best's opponent knew what BO he would do on Medusa, since he only seems to do the one. Jaedong's opponent Han played spectacularly as well, Jaedong didn't choke, he just got outplayed.
Jaedong
ProberoO
Profile Joined November 2008
United States88 Posts
November 29 2008 23:59 GMT
#577
Stork. <3 Good work. (rhymes?!)
The pandabearguy should be in every map.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-30 10:49:11
November 30 2008 08:19 GMT
#578
http://www.scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=593

EDIT: so he didn't give a shit for MSL
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 30 2008 09:38 GMT
#579
aww poor best
Phradamon
Profile Joined January 2008
Romania191 Posts
November 30 2008 11:45 GMT
#580
Actually i think Best sucks by itself and its not the stupid rule because he cant live up to the standards or expectations.
Last season SKT werent allowed to play in GSL and what Best did? Choke on OSL kneeing in front of (Z)July. Or what (P)Bisu did last season? Being humiliated by almost every zerg he encountered and being outplayed by (Z)Luxury in the ACE match vs OGN and wasting the chance of getting to finals.

Best simply sucks, only the myth is about him. "The god of pvp" lost to (P)Stork and was outplayed by (P)Tempest and Ynyeon (or whatever his name is) who are not top players. Next PR Best should be way under (P)Kal, or (P)free, or JD or (T)Flash.

Also, i disagree with FS: PR is not about being spectacular but having good results and being spectacular same time. It is enough to remember the dispute about Best vs (P)LuCifer or (P)LuCifer vs (P)Pure last season when (P)LuCifer had similar streaks with those two, and was pure fun to watch (mass templar drops etc) and he never was in PR.
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