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On January 03 2008 06:47 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2008 06:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On January 03 2008 06:31 IntoTheWow wrote:Flash... + Show Spoiler +5 raxed UpMagic yesterday. I hope he dies. Oh, right. I was watching his December games earlier and I didn't watch his ODT group. He 2-0'd it though, and I'd bet he could do that playing any which way. + Show Spoiler +Well, the first game luxury fucking 4 pooled him and lux played the other game like shit too. But won vs Shudder is what it seems it could be the worst game of 2008 already. Getting past his ODT group is not an accomplishment when shitty players and cheeses the only real contender, UpMagic.
I agree with this 100%
+ Show Spoiler +Luxury has been showing some fairly notable play (i use those words loosly) but Flash pulled off his little bitch plays when Ups TvT is dominating. That game made me want to slap Flash in his baby face.
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Last night reminded me of something: surprised Kal didn't even make close but no cigar. He qualified for MSL and looks like he fixed his PvP (!?!?! where did that one come from :> ) of all things.
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On January 06 2008 08:54 zer0das wrote:
Last night reminded me of something: surprised Kal didn't even make close but no cigar. He qualified for MSL and looks like he fixed his PvP (!?!?! where did that one come from :> ) of all things.
i think its cuz fakesteve hates kal alot ^^; but besides that, yeah, i thought kal would be in here on the close but no cigars. he has been tearing it up as of late, but we shall see coming into next month if he can keep that going, or it is just a fluke. i just cant believe rock made it out of his group..... i was shockkkkkked... BUT WE SHALL SEE JAEDONG VS BISU VERY SOOOn.... have your fingers crossed for jaedong to dethrone that mofo^^;
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CA10830 Posts
On January 06 2008 00:48 20thCenturyBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2008 06:47 IntoTheWow wrote:On January 03 2008 06:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On January 03 2008 06:31 IntoTheWow wrote:Flash... + Show Spoiler +5 raxed UpMagic yesterday. I hope he dies. Oh, right. I was watching his December games earlier and I didn't watch his ODT group. He 2-0'd it though, and I'd bet he could do that playing any which way. + Show Spoiler +Well, the first game luxury fucking 4 pooled him and lux played the other game like shit too. But won vs Shudder is what it seems it could be the worst game of 2008 already. Getting past his ODT group is not an accomplishment when shitty players and cheeses the only real contender, UpMagic. I agree with this 100% + Show Spoiler +Luxury has been showing some fairly notable play (i use those words loosly) but Flash pulled off his little bitch plays when Ups TvT is dominating. That game made me want to slap Flash in his baby face. oh please, stop hating flash. upmagic is known for his non-standard (aka cheese?) play. if upmagic had done the same thing would you have said "Luxury has been showing some fairly notable play (i use those words loosly) but Upmagic pulled off his little bitch plays when Flash's TvT is dominating. That game made me want to slap Upmagic in his baby face." ?
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On January 03 2008 12:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2008 12:28 TheTyranid wrote:
So its OSL finals/Survivor fail vs stellar Proleague preformance/3-0 raping of Bisu. I will agree that the first outweighs the secong but the bottom line is that Stork is in better shape than Bisu despite those losses. Bisu is entering a slump and in January he will fail even more. Nobody can be dominating forever.
Btw, TLPD is not that relevant but check the recent preformance of the two players. Stork is 11-6 in Dec and Bisu is 3-6. we're in a transition period where both leagues are starting up again. Bisu is above Stork right now because Stork blew his load in the semifinal yet again. Stork's abysmal play towards the end of the month puts him below Bisu, who placed top 3 in both leagues, but above everyone else. Third place on the power rank isn't bad and some people are acting like being third after Bisu is the same as being tenth after nine people. Bisu's PvP and PvT are still excellent. Stork's are certainly better, but his PvZ is at a level that hinders him in a big way. Any strong Zerg in a Starleague and Stork is probably done, that's a massive handicap. Bisu is more likely to win PvT and PvP series than Stork is to win a PvZ series, and Bisu's likeliness to win a PvZ series trumps anything Stork can do. You people need to remember that Bisu's PvT and PvP are THE BEST AFTER STORK, and Stork's PvZ is one of the worst in ProGaming.
Nice reasoning Steve, you really nailed it! Idiot.
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jaedong beat baby, i think no one can argue there is anybody RIGHT NOW superior to jaedong
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Stork's PvZ is easily top 5 in progaming, not "one of the worst"
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And Rock's PvT is better than Bisu's.
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On January 07 2008 07:39 SuperJongMan wrote:
And Rock's PvT is better than Bisu's.
Rock's PvT is more hilarious than Stork's, too
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On January 06 2008 21:47 trollbone wrote:
jaedong beat baby, i think no one can argue there is anybody RIGHT NOW superior to jaedong
Yeah what an accomplishment beating this little kids is ... -_____-;
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On January 07 2008 08:19 boghat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2008 21:47 trollbone wrote:
jaedong beat baby, i think no one can argue there is anybody RIGHT NOW superior to jaedong Yeah what an accomplishment beating this little kids is ... -_____-;
Jaedong ended one of the most impressive undefeated streaks in progaming history, against a player without a single loss to his record.
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
On January 06 2008 14:06 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2008 00:48 20thCenturyBoy wrote:On January 03 2008 06:47 IntoTheWow wrote:On January 03 2008 06:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On January 03 2008 06:31 IntoTheWow wrote:Flash... + Show Spoiler +5 raxed UpMagic yesterday. I hope he dies. Oh, right. I was watching his December games earlier and I didn't watch his ODT group. He 2-0'd it though, and I'd bet he could do that playing any which way. + Show Spoiler +Well, the first game luxury fucking 4 pooled him and lux played the other game like shit too. But won vs Shudder is what it seems it could be the worst game of 2008 already. Getting past his ODT group is not an accomplishment when shitty players and cheeses the only real contender, UpMagic. I agree with this 100% + Show Spoiler +Luxury has been showing some fairly notable play (i use those words loosly) but Flash pulled off his little bitch plays when Ups TvT is dominating. That game made me want to slap Flash in his baby face. oh please, stop hating flash. upmagic is known for his non-standard (aka cheese?) play. if upmagic had done the same thing would you have said "Luxury has been showing some fairly notable play (i use those words loosly) but Upmagic pulled off his little bitch plays when Flash's TvT is dominating. That game made me want to slap Upmagic in his baby face." ?
The reason why people hate Flash is because he beat Bisu in the OSL. His builds were brilliant although many people fail to acknowlege that calling it "cheesy" due to their bias toward Bisu. I like both of these players. Flash, and Up are in the same category as Boxer and Casy (although Up's TvZ is utter crap unfortunately). They are the polar opposite of the hated generic macro terran so many of which have sprouted recently.
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On January 06 2008 14:06 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2008 00:48 20thCenturyBoy wrote:On January 03 2008 06:47 IntoTheWow wrote:On January 03 2008 06:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On January 03 2008 06:31 IntoTheWow wrote:Flash... + Show Spoiler +5 raxed UpMagic yesterday. I hope he dies. Oh, right. I was watching his December games earlier and I didn't watch his ODT group. He 2-0'd it though, and I'd bet he could do that playing any which way. + Show Spoiler +Well, the first game luxury fucking 4 pooled him and lux played the other game like shit too. But won vs Shudder is what it seems it could be the worst game of 2008 already. Getting past his ODT group is not an accomplishment when shitty players and cheeses the only real contender, UpMagic. I agree with this 100% + Show Spoiler +Luxury has been showing some fairly notable play (i use those words loosly) but Flash pulled off his little bitch plays when Ups TvT is dominating. That game made me want to slap Flash in his baby face. oh please, stop hating flash. upmagic is known for his non-standard (aka cheese?) play. if upmagic had done the same thing would you have said "Luxury has been showing some fairly notable play (i use those words loosly) but Upmagic pulled off his little bitch plays when Flash's TvT is dominating. That game made me want to slap Upmagic in his baby face." ?
there is a difference between non-standard and cheese
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Steve I can't believe you said Storks PvZ is one of the worst in progaming lol..you serious?
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Sea behind Much is a joke ....
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Dunno if I should post this here but I think there should be two forms of ranking, like one where the fakesteve makes one, and one that is made up of a voting consensus from the tl community. And we could put them head to head for comparison. Would be great.
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On January 08 2008 03:03 sage_francis wrote:
Sea behind Much is a joke ....
Why?
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On January 08 2008 07:12 ._. wrote:
Dunno if I should post this here but I think there should be two forms of ranking, like one where the fakesteve makes one, and one that is made up of a voting consensus from the tl community. And we could put them head to head for comparison. Would be great.
People would just vote for their favorite players every time.
And most people on here probably don't even watch that many VODs. It sounds nice at first but it would just be a waste of people's time and effort to make a list that's meaningless.
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On January 07 2008 08:58 TheTyranid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2008 14:06 LosingID8 wrote:On January 06 2008 00:48 20thCenturyBoy wrote:On January 03 2008 06:47 IntoTheWow wrote:On January 03 2008 06:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On January 03 2008 06:31 IntoTheWow wrote:Flash... + Show Spoiler +5 raxed UpMagic yesterday. I hope he dies. Oh, right. I was watching his December games earlier and I didn't watch his ODT group. He 2-0'd it though, and I'd bet he could do that playing any which way. + Show Spoiler +Well, the first game luxury fucking 4 pooled him and lux played the other game like shit too. But won vs Shudder is what it seems it could be the worst game of 2008 already. Getting past his ODT group is not an accomplishment when shitty players and cheeses the only real contender, UpMagic. I agree with this 100% + Show Spoiler +Luxury has been showing some fairly notable play (i use those words loosly) but Flash pulled off his little bitch plays when Ups TvT is dominating. That game made me want to slap Flash in his baby face. oh please, stop hating flash. upmagic is known for his non-standard (aka cheese?) play. if upmagic had done the same thing would you have said "Luxury has been showing some fairly notable play (i use those words loosly) but Upmagic pulled off his little bitch plays when Flash's TvT is dominating. That game made me want to slap Upmagic in his baby face." ? The reason why people hate Flash is because he beat Bisu in the OSL. His builds were brilliant although many people fail to acknowlege that calling it "cheesy" due to their bias toward Bisu. I like both of these players. Flash, and Up are in the same category as Boxer and Casy (although Up's TvZ is utter crap unfortunately). They are the polar opposite of the hated generic macro terran so many of which have sprouted recently.
No, people hate Flash because he failed to meet the lofty expectations that everyone had of him (he was 11-0 PvT or something at that time?), then rather than playing a straight up games, he cheesed two games in a row in a BO3 OSL match. Brilliant or not (subjective), they were definitely two all-in early game cheese builds (which is different from non-standard/proxy-builds that Boxer or Upmagic would pull). He has since regained some a lot of credit and I don't mind the guy at all.
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Proxy 5 rax in your opponents base is fucking awesome. Stylish cheese like that is something I love to see. Just a semi random offhand comment on Flash.
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