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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
January 09 2008 23:18 GMT
#181
On January 10 2008 05:40 ._. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2008 07:39 boghat wrote:
On January 08 2008 07:12 ._. wrote:
Dunno if I should post this here but I think there should be two forms of ranking, like one where the fakesteve makes one, and one that is made up of a voting consensus from the tl community. And we could put them head to head for comparison. Would be great.

People would just vote for their favorite players every time.

And most people on here probably don't even watch that many VODs. It sounds nice at first but it would just be a waste of people's time and effort to make a list that's meaningless.

What about like the top 1-25 Liquidbetters casting their positions? Surely they should have some individualized insight and watched plenty of vods to get them that far.

You know, liquibet is mostly luck. If you are top 25, that does not necesarily mean that you are knowledgable of progamers, you could just be lucky.
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
January 10 2008 04:29 GMT
#182
If jaedong gets his ZvP up to pair (or just close) to his ZvT and ZvZ, he's gonna be the next bonjwa, and he's gonna be unstoppable. He's a freaking monster. I think his ZvT is more insane than Savior's was, and his ZvZ is just insane.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-10 09:29:00
January 10 2008 08:13 GMT
#183
On January 10 2008 08:18 TheTyranid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2008 05:40 ._. wrote:
On January 08 2008 07:39 boghat wrote:
On January 08 2008 07:12 ._. wrote:
Dunno if I should post this here but I think there should be two forms of ranking, like one where the fakesteve makes one, and one that is made up of a voting consensus from the tl community. And we could put them head to head for comparison. Would be great.

People would just vote for their favorite players every time.

And most people on here probably don't even watch that many VODs. It sounds nice at first but it would just be a waste of people's time and effort to make a list that's meaningless.

What about like the top 1-25 Liquidbetters casting their positions? Surely they should have some individualized insight and watched plenty of vods to get them that far.

You know, liquibet is mostly luck. If you are top 25, that does not necesarily mean that you are knowledgable of progamers, you could just be lucky.

I agree it's mostly luck due to the fact that all progamers fairly equal in skill and there are a huge number of uncalculable variables. However by the end of the season it does demonstrate some solid knowledge of the progaming scene if you place in the top ranks. IE: ~60% liquibet. Whereas randomly guessing should (big SHOULD) give you about 50% of course.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
January 10 2008 11:55 GMT
#184
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savior was beaten 0-2 in his MSL group OMG no bisu, no savior
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
January 10 2008 12:35 GMT
#185
Spoilers for MSL Ro32
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So next PR, I am guessing Savior is out, and if Bisu slumps in the OSL hes out too?
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
January 10 2008 13:58 GMT
#186
On January 03 2008 06:35 Sunyveil wrote:
hmmm I have to disagree with Bisu at no. 2

Yes, he has posted results lately by placing 3rd in the OSL and 2nd in the MSL. No other player made the semis of either of those, and only savior made the Ro8 of both. However, judging by play during this month alone, Bisu looked completely outclassed by Stork and very sloppy over Up (except for game 1, I feel that Up played that series very poorly), and it leads me to believe that Bisu can't beat anybody but zergs in his current form (excluding the "nobodies" that Anytime beats consistently). He has to be able to play more matchups than just PvZ, and unfortunately, he stacked his MSL group to hide any weakness he has in other matchups (and I hope he gets raped by Jaedong and July for it too)

Other than that I'd put Anytime instead of Xellos as #10, but I don't feel terribly strong about that.

Everything else looks good (especially Jaedong at #1)

Lol Upmagic played terrible? Upmagic displayed the best god damn TvP micro I've ever seen.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
paavst
Profile Joined December 2007
171 Posts
January 10 2008 22:15 GMT
#187
On January 10 2008 20:55 trollbone wrote:
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savior was beaten 0-2 in his MSL group OMG no bisu, no savior


yeah that's quite unbelievable. i guess that there are just too many good players.... or the roster is unfair
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
January 11 2008 17:23 GMT
#188
THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR NOT EVEN GIVING KAL A CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR.
CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
January 12 2008 06:35 GMT
#189
savior should be at the very bottom of that ranking. the kid is nothing but rubbish
beware, the rise of the Protoss is upon us!
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
January 12 2008 16:49 GMT
#190
zomg bisuuu

*sniff*
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37121 Posts
January 12 2008 17:06 GMT
#191
FakeSteve, where's Nada?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37121 Posts
January 12 2008 17:07 GMT
#192
Nada made MSL right? What about his stats right now?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
January 12 2008 18:30 GMT
#193
On January 13 2008 02:07 Seeker wrote:
Nada made MSL right? What about his stats right now?


Losing in his ODT group hurt him. So did not playing in the proleague. If he starts rolling in the MSL, I'm guessing he'll make cbnc or make the rank.
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
January 12 2008 23:31 GMT
#194
Savior, Bisu, Hwasin, Stork.. my 2007 crew, what happened?
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
January 13 2008 21:29 GMT
#195
it's ok for Hwasin, he can do pretty well until the ro8 !!
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
January 14 2008 00:19 GMT
#196
On January 12 2008 15:35 CustomXSpunjah wrote:
savior should be at the very bottom of that ranking. the kid is nothing but rubbish

You are so fucking annoying.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
January 15 2008 00:53 GMT
#197
On January 12 2008 15:35 CustomXSpunjah wrote:
savior should be at the very bottom of that ranking. the kid is nothing but rubbish


The bottom of the list would be #10. I think you can make a case for Savior being #10 as the bottom few ranks are usually quite interchangeable in these rankings, though I would hardly consider top 10 "rubbish"
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jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
January 15 2008 06:55 GMT
#198
Uh oh, looks like XellOs's life on the PR was short-lived. That Gom TV 4 showing was horrific. =[.

어주 형님... 스타리그에서 잘 하세요.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 17 2008 02:53 GMT
#199
why do people hate flash? i think he's cool (even though he looks "vaguely like a confused fish" =).
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
diggurd
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Norway346 Posts
January 18 2008 18:35 GMT
#200
yeah i know, flash is the next big thing,

he has no weak matchups, maybe the best tvt around, and i know hell beat jaedong in a bo3/bo5. if the next power rank doesn't have flash among the top 3, its because you guys think he is "cheese".
but when boxer does it, its suddenly an act form a genius.
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