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Power Rank 12/29/2006 - Page 4

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Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
January 02 2007 11:16 GMT
#61
Yeah I mentioned that game earlier in this thread. I still have that VOD because they change to first person as the rape starts, and change back when the rape is done.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
January 02 2007 11:37 GMT
#62
Sea.Up?

Come on.
returns upon momentous occasions.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 02 2007 13:02 GMT
#63
On January 02 2007 20:37 HonestTea wrote:
Sea.Up?

Come on.


Yessssssssssssssssss
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
africanboy
Profile Joined July 2006
Korea (South)453 Posts
January 02 2007 15:39 GMT
#64
rA = plz loose
espoto@hotmail.com -add me
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
January 02 2007 23:33 GMT
#65
GoRush better be here next month.
He's a lot better than many new faces you put here.
He's still a regular and just because he doesn't do some 2 port fancy schmuck thing like Up doesn't mean he's worse.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
January 03 2007 01:53 GMT
#66
On January 03 2007 08:33 SuperJongMan wrote:
GoRush better be here next month.
He's a lot better than many new faces you put here.
He's still a regular and just because he doesn't do some 2 port fancy schmuck thing like Up doesn't mean he's worse.


I agree BUT this is a list of "Who's hot" not "who's good".
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-03 08:11:10
January 03 2007 08:11 GMT
#67
+ Show Spoiler +

After the shit that has gone down this OSL, Midas looks...almost better than Savior
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-03 08:38:23
January 03 2007 08:37 GMT
#68
Used to be, back in the day, you needed to win more than your Dual group and two OSL group games to be recognized.

I mean, that's all he did right? You have to look at the quality of opposition.

Beating TT, JiHyun, Yellow[Arnc] (on Longinus 2!) and FireBatHero on an island map TvT.
That does NOT deserve this kind of attention. Especially when done by a Terran. Come on Etter. He doesn't belong anywhere near that list.

There's been an UpMagic in every OSL since they switched to 24-players. A guy goes 3-0 in their group against lower opponents, and he gets bumped in the elimination tourneys against quality opposition. Think of Bisu from last OSL.

I do think UpMagic (and Bisu) will eventually be good enough to have deep runs, but for now, placing him 6th out of all the pros? Ninja Please.

Jaedong, man. Jaedong. You looking for a reason to put him in? Jaedong vs Light in the Proleague semis. Do the right thing.
returns upon momentous occasions.
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
January 03 2007 10:24 GMT
#69
On January 03 2007 17:37 HonestTea wrote:
Used to be, back in the day, you needed to win more than your Dual group and two OSL group games to be recognized.

I mean, that's all he did right? You have to look at the quality of opposition.

Beating TT, JiHyun, Yellow[Arnc] (on Longinus 2!) and FireBatHero on an island map TvT.
That does NOT deserve this kind of attention. Especially when done by a Terran. Come on Etter. He doesn't belong anywhere near that list.

There's been an UpMagic in every OSL since they switched to 24-players. A guy goes 3-0 in their group against lower opponents, and he gets bumped in the elimination tourneys against quality opposition. Think of Bisu from last OSL.

I do think UpMagic (and Bisu) will eventually be good enough to have deep runs, but for now, placing him 6th out of all the pros? Ninja Please.

Jaedong, man. Jaedong. You looking for a reason to put him in? Jaedong vs Light in the Proleague semis. Do the right thing.

I love posts like this. Keep them coming!

Up has done a little more than win his ODT group and go 2-0 in the OSL; he also cruised through his Survivor group was relative ease. He did drop a game to Shinwa on Blitz, but with all his wins as of late, I'm willing to overlook that on the grounds that Blitz is a pretty tough TvZ map and that Shinwa really isn't that bad ZvT. But if you look at Up's games lately, it's his sense that interests me, because as you point out, the quality of his opposition hasn't been that great. He's been playing really, really well, especially in TvT. That's going to be a big deal this OSL You should have access to more statistics than me, but you don't make an OSL and a Survivor League at the same time without winning a lot of games in a relatively short span of time. It's certainly not his fault that he hasn't played any really big names as of late, but beating Yellow[name]'s ZvT is a feat on any map, and Firebathero can be absolutely brilliant at times.

Speaking of maps, I'm sick of all this crying about Longinus 2; it just isn't that bad for ZvT. HitchHiker and Arkanoid are both worse. I'm not saying there's not a Terran advantage on Longinus 2, but I'm looking at it like Arcadia II: in this instance, the statistics simply don't reflect the map's balance. How long did it take for Terran to win a TvZ on Arcadia II? But the statistics leveled out after a while. Any map where a Zerg can secure two geysers by holding a ramp just can't be considered that bad ZvT. The map isn't all that narrow, and there is room for counters and flanks and such. Zergs will figure it out.

You might be right about Up losing in the RO16, but maybe not. Consider: it looks like he'll finish first in his group (or has he already clinched it?). That lets him, within reason, pick his opponent. And given the maps, I give him good odds against any Zerg but Savior, and he's capable of beating any Terran but Midas and Casy; they're probably too strong TvT. Then again, you just never know when Midas is going to break down, and Up has shown that TvT is definitely his ace matchup. Given his results, his actual play (which has been pretty impressive), and his potential for continued success, I don't think the #6 slot is unwarranted.

But as with all my rankings, time will tell. ^^
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
January 04 2007 04:22 GMT
#70
Dude, Up freaking UNDRESSED YellOw[ArnC] on Longinus 2. I was like DAAAAANGGGG DAAAAAAANGGGGGGGG. He went 1 rax CC, proxy fact snuck some vultures in, lifted off the factory and landed it INSIDE the base to vulture harass again and build two starports for wraith harass. His build order was uber sexy and perfectly executed. That game made me a bereever of Up.

DJEtter. You rock. This thing is really awesome. I waited anxiously for about a few weeks for the next Power Rankings to come out. The only bone I have to pick with you is your Descriptions for the top 10 are really brief. Instead of describing everything in the first post, why not put it in the actual description? You don't have to of course, just a suggestion. Otherwise, that was freaking sexy time.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
January 04 2007 06:58 GMT
#71
On January 04 2007 13:22 jkillashark wrote:
Dude, Up freaking UNDRESSED YellOw[ArnC] on Longinus 2. I was like DAAAAANGGGG DAAAAAAANGGGGGGGG. He went 1 rax CC, proxy fact snuck some vultures in, lifted off the factory and landed it INSIDE the base to vulture harass again and build two starports for wraith harass. His build order was uber sexy and perfectly executed. That game made me a bereever of Up.

DJEtter. You rock. This thing is really awesome. I waited anxiously for about a few weeks for the next Power Rankings to come out. The only bone I have to pick with you is your Descriptions for the top 10 are really brief. Instead of describing everything in the first post, why not put it in the actual description? You don't have to of course, just a suggestion. Otherwise, that was freaking sexy time.


yea this is awesome
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 04 2007 13:06 GMT
#72
On January 04 2007 13:22 jkillashark wrote:
Dude, Up freaking UNDRESSED YellOw[ArnC] on Longinus 2. I was like DAAAAANGGGG DAAAAAAANGGGGGGGG. He went 1 rax CC, proxy fact snuck some vultures in, lifted off the factory and landed it INSIDE the base to vulture harass again and build two starports for wraith harass. His build order was uber sexy and perfectly executed. That game made me a bereever of Up.


Exactly!
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 05 2007 01:14 GMT
#73
I think progamers play too few games with too volatile results. one particular game in progaming is the equivalent of maybe 2 or 3 at bats for a baseball player, or a drive in football. There are way too many variables and not enough trials to determine "power" just from 5 or 6 games. But then again progamer careers are very short, and the work intensive, so we can't expect too much out of any ranking.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
SCNewb
Profile Joined June 2006
Canada2210 Posts
January 05 2007 07:16 GMT
#74
NIce rankings......thanks DJ
Huge iloveOov fan
ReVo
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico5 Posts
January 05 2007 15:22 GMT
#75
goggo midas
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-05 15:55:05
January 05 2007 15:53 GMT
#76
i dont think people are understanding the nature of these power rankings

they are a transitory thing, and only apply to the last month or couple of weeks. its not a long term assessment of a player's skill, just who is hot right now.

to use your baseball at bats analogy, think of the power rankings as a highlights or "weekly mvp" for baseball or whatever, that CAN be decided by a few at bats. nothing wrong about that.

thats why anytime and nada were so high and suddenly disappear, they were favorites heading into this OSL but sucked it up so bam off the list

nothing wrong with upmagic being there, hes played amazing the last few weeks
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
useLess[ies]
Profile Joined December 2006
11 Posts
January 06 2007 04:53 GMT
#77
On December 29 2006 07:49 Orome wrote:
10. Pusan - Die buffalo face, stop winning.



I agree.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
January 07 2007 11:09 GMT
#78
Buffaloes are some of the most resilient creatures ever to live.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-08 02:18:56
January 08 2007 02:14 GMT
#79
The next one should see some drastic changes me think.
+ Show Spoiler +
how high will Sea.Up end up? o.O


to use your baseball at bats analogy, think of the power rankings as a highlights or "weekly mvp" for baseball or whatever, that CAN be decided by a few at bats. nothing wrong about that.
Yes, such a ranking is indeed something like that. Maybe what some of us perceive it as is like a fantasy draft of players that are going to be competing for the next few weeks (the players you would draft right now to win you matches) which is something different than just background neutrla performance. I mean any rookie can win weekly mvp, but you would not draft him in your fantasy league. But I know that the ranking was made on a rational basis of the player's form, even though over a few games, so I definitely respect it as what it is.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 12 2007 09:36 GMT
#80
On Light[Alive]:

His only weak point, it would appear, is his TvT, and even it really isn’t that bad.


+ Show Spoiler +
Too bad this OSL that is chock-full of T's got him knocked out in the wildcard stage after a zillion TvT's
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
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