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QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
November 26 2006 08:18 GMT
#201
Well why wasn't silver included? He bashed nal_ra and made 2nd msl. Performed much better than jju or nal_ra. I mean, i can understand that you may believe his winnings were a fluke, he played nearly all zvps on his way up, but if your including players based on their recent results, why not him?

But I take it I'm probably the only guy here who actually likes silver lolol
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 26 2006 09:10 GMT
#202
Silver's just horrible. Did you watch his games?
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 26 2006 09:25 GMT
#203
I disagree with

- rA at #9, rA might have almost failed to qualify for the second round, but he played very nice games after that, 2-0'ing fake Yellow and Xellos in convincing fashion.
- GoRush at #7 seems pretty random, it's not like GoRush's achieved more than many other lately, he got into the quarters of OSL, wasn't in MSL, and barely plays in Proleague.
- Sea[Shield] at #5, but Etter's always been in love with Sea, so I guess that one's understandable. ;p

Overall I think you weigh OSL too much, and Proleague too little, all the progamers say that most of their practicing goes into Proleague, I believe it should be as important as the other two leagues for you.

Nice feature. : )
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-26 09:28:55
November 26 2006 09:28 GMT
#204
daezang will be up there soon I bet. His game in MSL was outstanding until silver and savior tore him apart. His other games were amazing too outside MSL.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
November 26 2006 09:30 GMT
#205
On November 26 2006 18:10 Orome wrote:
Silver's just horrible. Did you watch his games?

That's why I love him
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
November 26 2006 09:42 GMT
#206
On November 22 2006 10:05 oj- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2006 09:52 Jathin wrote:
A reflection on the average intelligence of TL.netters:

Which terran can stop the saviOr juggarnaut?
NaDa (261) 50%
iloveoov (112) 21%
Casy (53) 10%
GF (haha) (44) 8%
Xellos (28) 5%
Midas (23) 4%


savior's record vs oov is disgusting isn't it? like 8-1 or something rediculous?
I don't understand what you're saying here

hmm and for the record yeah the list maybe biased but DJetter knows what he's talking about good feature.

edit: but he is a smartass


I think it was that many people voted oov when in fact there were tons of threads where savior was 7-0 vs oov. also it is pretty frightening to see how midas and xellos were at the bottom when midas was 2-3 savior and xellos is in savior's team, thus knowing his game a little better. Of course I voted casy
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 26 2006 09:52 GMT
#207
So yeah, my list would probably be:

1. IPXZerg
2. Anytime[gm]
3. Nada
4. Midas
5. GGPlay
6. Nal_rA
7 Sea[Shield]
8. Jju
9. Jaedong
10. Bisu[Shield]

GoRush dropped out because he hasn't done anything other than play in OSL (he would be 11th though),
GGPlay is in front of Sea because they both did the same in OSL, but GGPlay is absolutely amazing in Proleague and additionally, he beat Sea in the OSL.
Nal_rA before Sea was a tough decision, him on #7 and Sea on #6 would be fine for me as well. Jju moved up two places because he's performed better in Proleague than Bisu, plus he was in the MSL semis, which I would weigh around the same as Bisu's quarter finals in the OSL. Jaedong is between them because he's been tearing up this Proleague season.

If this doesn't make sense, it's because it's 3:52 am here. T_T

And I'd like an answer please. ; )
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
November 26 2006 09:55 GMT
#208
As a footnote to my last post, and my final words on this, remember, nothing is perfect the first time. This is something that can evolve, and everyone's opinions influence that. I find too many people are just willing to dismiss something because they don't like the first incarnation of it.
ModeratorGodfather
well_made
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)4 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-26 10:07:17
November 26 2006 10:03 GMT
#209
On November 26 2006 15:34 Jathin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2006 13:17 well_made wrote:
who the hell made this rankings
here's a new one
1. nada
2.savior
3. anytime
4. iloveoov
5. midas
6. goodfriend
7.gorush
8 nalra
9. xellos
10. july


Yep, mindless fanboi. The highlighted names have not performed well in the past few months. They're good and were incredible in their primes but as of late they have not been performing well.

Edit: Except GoodFriend who got relatively far in the OSL, but undeservingly according to his play in the last OSL.



iloveoov have done an incredible job at proleagues and that goes the same for xellos. july's force is just too good to be underestimated. and you should argue about jju not july. july at least won second place in wcg. what have jju done
well_made is my battlenet id
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
November 26 2006 10:40 GMT
#210
How would we know when this is updated?
Moonlight Shadow
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
November 26 2006 12:26 GMT
#211
--- Nuked ---
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
November 26 2006 13:16 GMT
#212
On November 26 2006 19:40 useless wrote:
How would we know when this is updated?


It will be monthly, and the rankings will change + newspost.
ModeratorGodfather
racebannon
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada1225 Posts
November 26 2006 23:19 GMT
#213
Oh so you're hoping to recreate the awesome bandwagons in which people cannot express their hate for mumyung enough simply because mensrea says "fuck this guy"

I thought the forum had a good thing going now that people can appreciate gamers despite them not being on the holy list of current bandwagon material. I mean if you take away all the pedophiles and retards anyway

So I'm tremendously sorry your new feature sucks in its current state but I can really only shit on things in their present and past forms, I can only speculate as to how much they will require shitting upon in the future, so here's to hoping it inspires the crusade against random people who play a video game for a living like the last time
when they really get to know you they will run
Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
November 27 2006 17:23 GMT
#214
Do you guys think its breaking news to the admins that you disagree with this list instead of just accepting it as truth?

Look at any Kespa thread, its riddled with ridicule. And its easy to see why. While this list isnt perfect, its better than kespas IMO. Thats because Kespas uses JUST ancient history (some of the players look severly out of place) and doesnt factor in any sort of potential. This lists uses more recent history and the authors opinion on the players potential.

While yours or anyones opinion of a players of potential could backfire, what do you think progaming scouts use?

Yet still, IMO i don't think this is feature worthy. However i think it's timely because i don't follow the leagues closely at all anymore. Only when its the quarters, semis, (Proleague, wtf is that) i play catch-up. So i think it would be nice to read this list when there isn't finals happening.
The sky just is, and goes on and on; and we play all our BW games beneath it.
toshi
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Poland469 Posts
November 27 2006 23:49 GMT
#215
Go Go AnyTime ! Go !
pro-
AlexanderTheGreat
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada521 Posts
November 28 2006 00:17 GMT
#216
1. Savior 2. Nada 3. Anytime 4. Nal_ra 5. Midas 6. Goodfriend 7. Silver 8. JJU 9. GoRush
10. Bisu[Shield]

Just my opinion here of whos hot atm.

Great idea with the power ranking.
There is nothing impossible to him who will try
fig_newbie
Profile Joined March 2006
749 Posts
November 28 2006 06:43 GMT
#217
Jesus I hope this avalanche of criticisms hasn't made etter any less willing to follow up on this.

Do you guys realize how great a feature this is? I love the vision of the TL admins; they aren't content to let BW stagnate, theyre constantly being innovative and taking risks in pushing the boundaries of the game through the community. Consider, every single "good" sport (football, american football, basketball, baseball etc etc) has their own opinionated columnists who give their own feedback as to whose hot or not. One only has to look at a local newpaper or hell ESPN to find these power rankings or an opinionated dickhead that you either love or hate. And dont compare KESPA to this. KESPA has no soul, its just a completely objective computer formula that has no consideration of the backstory in every game. Its fucking boring. Give me a well written, opinonated power ranking any day.

As for Etter's qualifications, Mani already stated the obvious flaw - Etter was not properly introduced as a "expert" to the scene. Nevertheless, I've found his insights to be very valid and I value his opinions, and even though I dont necessarily agree with all of them, he makes very good arguments for it, which is more than I can say for tfeigns unhealthy obsession with chojja. His abrasivness is obviously a way to polarize and fire up the masses. I love it.
k?
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
November 28 2006 08:58 GMT
#218
On November 28 2006 09:17 AlexanderTheGreat wrote:
1. Savior 2. Nada 3. Anytime 4. Nal_ra 5. Midas 6. Goodfriend 7. Silver 8. JJU 9. GoRush
10. Bisu[Shield]

Just my opinion here of whos hot atm.

Great idea with the power ranking.

Your list is actually very very valid. I like it a lot. Just not too sure about GoRush.
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
November 28 2006 12:11 GMT
#219
I find it greatly annoying that more than half the comments I see in the Power Rankings are very shallow and of poor quality, and quantity for that matter. I see people say, no you're wrong... that's it. They give no reasoning behind it. DJEtter knows what he's talking about. He put a lot of reason and thinking into these selections.

I would really like to see the Power Rankings spark intelligent debates whenever they come out. But right now I see some people putting intelligent input and the majority putting half assed one line disagreements. Show some respect to DJEtter and put some thought into your criticisms.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 29 2006 15:33 GMT
#220
Well, I chat with etter about SC time to time... we have different opinions, but I can't honestly say Etter's opinions suck. They're pretty good and validated.... mine are just better. ~_~
Besides the man thinking Reach is #1 protoss, he's pretty good about what he does.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
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