Stephano hands down, no other foreigner can dominate like he does, even though Naniwa's results in GSL are impressive and GSL would be considered the most difficult tournement, his wins just don't come as convincing as that of Stephano.

Ouga

Finland645 Posts

July 19 2012 17:38 GMT

#265

Step has been more consistent, despite the 2x ro8 finishes of nani. It requires him to win 4x bo3 per season, so he's easily #2 best foreigner currently, but Step still has won more similar situations. I don't think step is underdog against anyone, while nani is slightly.

nixX3n

United States122 Posts

July 19 2012 17:52 GMT

#266

Stephano.

If any of you watched Code S, you can see the 'best' ZvP player get absolutely picked apart by MC. Now remember that same MC lose to Stephano in NASL 3-2. IMO Stephano has the best ZvP in the world right now. Naniwa has been carried through two seasons in a row to Code S round of 8 on the back of his PvP. Stephano beats Koreans of all flavors consistently.

massivez

Belgium653 Posts

July 19 2012 17:59 GMT

#267

Stephano obviously.

Svenoob

France10 Posts

July 19 2012 18:07 GMT

#268

On July 20 2012 02:52 Umi wrote:
Stephano.

Now remember that same MC lose to Stephano in NASL 3-2.

4-2 Actually

Nuclease

United States1049 Posts

July 19 2012 18:35 GMT

#269

Stephano's really good, but I think that Naniwa and Stephano are kind of apples the oranges.

Stephano competes in a lot of larger, group-play oriented tournaments, while Naniwa's main achievements have been from GSL. I don't think that Stephano could EVER see the success that Naniwa has had in the GSL, and I think that GSL takes much more skill than tournaments like MLG.

Fermats_last

England336 Posts

July 19 2012 18:45 GMT

#270

Stephano in the TL qualifiers was atrocious, so Naniwa

blackwolf

Denmark157 Posts

July 19 2012 18:54 GMT

#271

Stephano just look at his results I think this pretty much speaks for itself. And the argument about the GSL being so much harder is just wrong. Stephano picked MC, a several times GSL champion, among many other very high ranking code S players. Naniwa is good, but he is not anywhere the level of Stephano at the moment I do not even see how that is up for debate honestly.

Ronski

Finland266 Posts

July 19 2012 19:20 GMT

#272

Make their showmatch happen and end the debate for good.

Personally I think Stephano is the better player.

IMHope

Korea (South)1241 Posts

July 19 2012 19:36 GMT

#273

Until Stephano decides to go and play in GSL I will consider Naniwa the better player because of how far he has gotten in GSL.

hyperdemented

Austria372 Posts

July 19 2012 19:38 GMT

#274

whats really bothering is how people vote for "other". in the past there have been other contenders to that title, but nobody right now comes close to the consistency both stephano and naniwa have shown

Hds

France200 Posts

July 19 2012 19:50 GMT

#275

Hmmm, Thorzain I'd say, but he's definitely behind Steph and Nani.

Grobyc

Canada18410 Posts

July 19 2012 19:51 GMT

#276

Stephano easy. Not that Naniwa and others haven't show some impressive skill, but still Stephano. I don't need to see him participate in GSL before I rank him above Naniwa (although I'd like to see it still).

yummi

Poland48 Posts

July 19 2012 20:22 GMT

#277

On July 18 2012 09:47 tredogz wrote:
IDRA .. . all the way!

you gotta be kidding me...

Naniwa all the way!!!!

HGurryp

275 Posts

July 19 2012 20:24 GMT

#278

Naniwa
Stephano is good because his ZVP and now after queen buffs there are only zvp in tournaments, thats why he is going so far like in NASL

Havik_

United States5585 Posts

July 19 2012 20:24 GMT

#279

On July 18 2012 09:37 Iddqdish wrote:
on the fly - Stephano
if there is time to prepare for 1 match - Naniwa

Exactly this. Although the best way to know for sure would be for them to meet each other in a major tournament.

One could also make a strong argument for Ret, Thorzain, or even Huk, although Huk has been in a bad slump as of late.

Ryler

Slovenia370 Posts

July 19 2012 20:27 GMT

#280

I love how some people "overhype" naniwa. Look I'm a huge fan of him 2x ro8 is really good. But 1 PvP game in either seasons and that doesn't happen(yes you can counter argue he could have beaten DRG). Some people just don't understand variance ... GSL is the hardest tournament yes. But if u think just that point negates all Stephanos achievements you're just stupid. Also this is a really stupid time to be making this poll imo. Should do it at the end of the year and see what Nani does in the other 2 GSL seasons and what Stephano does until then.