IEM WC Group of Death?
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ReturnStroke
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Apack
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Phobbers
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On February 28 2012 08:37 Apack wrote: Which KIller is in which group? d.killer is in group A while coL.killer is in group C | ||
figq
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On February 28 2012 08:37 Apack wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_World_Championship#ResultsWhich KIller is in which group? Sangho (Kor Toss Killer) is in C. I voted C, because it's more balanced, hence it's more deadly. The other groups have bigger names, but also weaker names in comparison, and I expect less competition there. To add that the difference is very small, and I'm pretty happy with the overall balancing in all groups. | ||
monkeycid
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archonOOid
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iPho
United States6 Posts
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TheBlankets
United States14 Posts
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
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LunaSaint
United Kingdom620 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19202 Posts
MC Elfi Sound Ret Hasu Nerchio (26) MC the best protoss (top protoss at least) Ret currently emerging as a fierce player Nerchio took Jjajki to 9 games | ||
AysiktiriX
358 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- Haha, quoted for truth, when I voted A and saw the results, my 1st thought was "oh... Idra fanboys". | ||
ictoan
United States4 Posts
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
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snively
United States1159 Posts
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Panzerfaust7
United States38 Posts
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ReturnStroke
United States801 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- I voted for D. Not for IdrA really at all. :/ | ||
GuitarBizarre
United Kingdom332 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- And supernova, and DRG, and Kas, and Feast. All top notch players. It's a group of death FOR IdrA, not because of it...of course, he could surprise us all. My view on IdrA right now is more that he's an unknown due to how good we know he should be and how he's saying he's improved massively in korea, despite lackluster results. | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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phyren
United States1067 Posts
On February 28 2012 08:42 figq wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_World_Championship#Results Sangho (Kor Toss Killer) is in C. I voted C, because it's more balanced, hence it's more deadly. The other groups have bigger names, but also weaker names in comparison, and I expect less competition there. To add that the difference is very small, and I'm pretty happy with the overall balancing in all groups. voted B for the same reason. | ||
StrafeJD
United States39 Posts
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zelevin
United States247 Posts
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Crake_
United States74 Posts
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Dbla08
United States211 Posts
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themask4f
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-niL
Canada1131 Posts
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Slaptoast
Canada134 Posts
lol Idra fanboys always vote idras group as the hardest, get a clue I voted his group but I believe he will be the weakest in it. In fact the groups are actually fairly evenly sprinkled with big names and mid tier players alike. | ||
Kerwin
United States220 Posts
On February 28 2012 12:45 Crake_ wrote: DRG = scariest player in the tournament by far. Supernova is RO16 Code S, and he beat MC and Leenock to get there. Kas is one of the best foreign terrans, total monster. Think this group beats group A, just because DRG is too good. Maybe MMA could beat him, probably not anyone else though. I guess it all depends on what "deadly" means... Group D has a few deadly players, but I think is the easiest to predict. So IMO Group D is only "deadly" for the 3 in that group that I'm fairly sure are going to lose. Group C however, I have no idea who will advance from that group and thus, I might consider to be "deadly" for all the players, lol. Remember that 3 advance from each group... | ||
Zirob13
Costa Rica44 Posts
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RaiD.RaynoR
United States294 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On February 28 2012 15:12 Zirob13 wrote: Glad to see FruitDealer in there You shouldn't be, he plays LoL now and will likely cheese and win or bomb out of the tournament. | ||
Doof
United States204 Posts
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ComusLoM
Norway3547 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:25 BisuDagger wrote: A lot of people gonna be voting for their favorite players, but B looks like a clear front runner to me. MC Elfi Sound Ret Hasu Nerchio (26) MC the best protoss (top protoss at least) Ret currently emerging as a fierce player Nerchio took Jjajki to 9 games Elfi can beat anyone on top form, Sound is very solid, and Hasu is very underrated. B is definitely the strongest group here in terms of pure brute force. | ||
tobiii
Germany15 Posts
On February 28 2012 13:03 Dbla08 wrote: group c for sure, 4 koreans, 2 very good foreigners in mana and dimaga, all other votes are fanboys or fools It has 4 koreans in it, but none of these is really a top player atm. Do you really think any of these has the skill level of DRG, Supernova, MMA or MC? Actually, I think Dima has a pretty good chance of advancing there as I think he is better than most of the koreans. | ||
Ronski
Finland266 Posts
MC is still a code S level protoss. Nerchio and Ret have forever been among the best players in europe. Elfi is actually in the group he can win. His PvP has forever been able to upset anyone and at assembly he was extremely close to beating Stephano 2-0. He is in a group where his best matchups are the only ones he needs to play. | ||
fcgog
United Kingdom876 Posts
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TheRealViceroy
United States16 Posts
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- They are actually quite close groups D has fest real and kas who are all better then socke killer and strelok respectively then idra and JYP are a bit meh atm and then violet and MMA and DRG and supernova are all great players over all i think D has the edge, with the weaker players in that group all being bettter then the 4 weaker in A. And then i think DRG and supernova are better then violet and MMA but thats just my thoughts :p it is pretty close tbh | ||
milkyjug
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On February 28 2012 12:20 zelevin wrote: I'm still an IdrA fan, even if he does suck. You would prolly suck him off too if given the chance, gotta love them fanboys. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
iEatWoofers
Switzerland108 Posts
Foreigners vs Koreans. It. Shall. Be. Epic. ![]() A and D look the craziest to me, even if some of the players in those groups don't have huge wins under their belts. I wouldn't count out group B though... Ret, nerchio, MC... that's pretty sick. Don't know much about elfi and sound (only seen him @ HSC) so I dunno. I guess I'll just have to watch IEM WC! ... when ever it's on :S | ||
MuATaran
Canada231 Posts
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Art_of_Kill
Zaire1232 Posts
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
dKiller was supposed to change his name after losing to Sangho at I think it was IEM... very annoying that he didn't go through with it. Really they should both change their name though, as dKiller agreed to change his and Sangho is just a much better name than Killer. With this in mind I would have to change my vote to C as the players are all very good and close in skill, with Mana and Fruitdealer being a tad behind the other 4. | ||
aiuradun
Denmark115 Posts
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
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supsun
United Kingdom343 Posts
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Leetley
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ShuttingFromTheSky
Japan199 Posts
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Vandrad
Germany951 Posts
On February 29 2012 01:23 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote: America saw Idras name and America voted for D, interesting. I don't think so man ... It has DRG and Supernova in it DRG alone is definetly Top 3 World wide if not the best right now. And Kas is a really good european terran too who wins vs good koreans I actually feel bad for IdrA ... He always finds himself in the hardest group | ||
OzVelas
Bulgaria516 Posts
On February 29 2012 01:23 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote: America saw Idras name and America voted for D, interesting. i voted D and i think idra will 0-5 in this group drg=mma, supernova>jyp, violet>idra, real=killer, feast=socke, kas>strelok | ||
TheTurk
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TheRhox
Canada868 Posts
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niilzon
Belgium105 Posts
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INTOtheVOID
United States225 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- You are 100% right, I was going to post this same thing. A is easily the hardest group... | ||
Phobbers
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On February 29 2012 03:57 INTOtheVOID wrote: You are 100% right, I was going to post this same thing. A is easily the hardest group... Watch this, D is easily the hardest group. People are only selecting A because it has MMA in it. See what I did there? Fans are fans and will vote for their favorite player, but at the same time you have to sit back and think about which group is truly the hardest and this time around, Idra being in group D isn't the reason it's being voted the hardest. Also, I wonder how many people are voting for A because they think it's SangHo with that line up, when it's really d.Killer. | ||
CeriseCherries
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Feast is beast + DRG very very strong + Supernova strong + please idra show something + kas perennial solidity + idk real heard stuff but not sure where he stacks up = pretty strong group | ||
OrchidZerg
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SolidMustard
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
On February 29 2012 02:32 TheTurk wrote: Hope FruitDealer does really well. ![]() Ever since GSL 2 I have been waiting for this to happen. I gave up friend, but I admire your tenacity. | ||
DailYLeet
Germany827 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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Wampaibist
United States478 Posts
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Sylailene
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On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- Yeah because drg kas and supernova aren't enough. Not to mention real and feast are bring really underestimateed, even though I can see then being able to pull a massive upset. Seems to me like plenty of people wont pick it simply because it has idra in it | ||
Yello
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Jooms
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Wolvmatt.
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babybell
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Proko
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Therg
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RushBoxer!
United States173 Posts
Also looking forward to seeing Zenio Play. | ||
TrojanSC2
United States82 Posts
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kochujang
Germany1226 Posts
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iiGreetings
Canada563 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- Well DRG may be the best zerg on the planet right now and supernova and real are top notch koreans. Kas is argueably on e of the best terrans in europe. Then we have idra and feast, aside from feast this group is absolutely insane. | ||
reapsen
Germany559 Posts
I personally thought SangHo was perfectly fine... | ||
RenSC2
United States1047 Posts
MMA, JYP, Violet should be pretty big favorites to advance. Group B: MC is a big favorite to advance with a huge dropoff from there. I think Ret & Elfi for 2 and 3. Group C: Zenio, Killer, Puma. Quite possibly none of these guys would advance from group A (Zenio would be a slight favorite over JYP and Violet). Probably the most balanced group overall. Look for a Dimaga upset to sneak into the top 3. Group D: DRG, Supernova, and then a dogfight for 3rd. Kas has the inside track, but recent P > T trends might open the door for ReaL or Feast. Most Balanced: C Most Skill: A Most Interesting: D (who will get 3rd?) Biggest reminder of the Korean v Foreigner skill gap: B | ||
gladsheim
Australia676 Posts
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Sata_
Belgium82 Posts
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onedayclose
United States1145 Posts
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HuffSteR
Bulgaria16 Posts
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
hes rly good guys | ||
Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Madracah
Poland2 Posts
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GleaM
United States207 Posts
Violet MMA JYP is pretty scary, and the Terrans and Zergs from group D are pretty scary. Anything to do with DRG is intimidating O_O | ||
Dezire
Netherlands640 Posts
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puzzl
United States263 Posts
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
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kochujang
Germany1226 Posts
On March 01 2012 06:27 Cloud9157 wrote: How is D harder than group C? Because Idra and DRG are in it? Are Idra and DRG the only players you know in group D? | ||
Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
Group D will be awesome though. Equal race distribution, two still up&coming protoss players, two supersolid terrans, one best player in the world and an IdrA thrown in for good measure ![]() | ||
Elios
Brazil277 Posts
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Proxeh
Finland3 Posts
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Prime Directive
United States186 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- I voted D because Kas DRG and Supernova are all insane. | ||
SohcranA
United States36 Posts
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OrD_SC2
United States247 Posts
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Johnnybb
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Swift118
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mr.grimm
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speknek
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On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- ? I pick D over A and I don't even count idra. mma(A) = drg(D) > supernova(D), kas(D) > Rest of group A/D | ||
RaiD.RaynoR
United States294 Posts
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badeanden
Norway56 Posts
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Jornada
United States223 Posts
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An2quamaraN
Poland379 Posts
In A there is MMA and Violet both strong, but not enough to be a sure bet versus Killer or JYP, that's why its not death group. | ||
Ruscour
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Ruscour
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On March 02 2012 06:36 An2quamaraN wrote: Voted Group D cause of DRG. There is only Supernova that can cause him trouble, who in turn will probably swept Idra and the rest. That's why i think it's a death group. In A there is MMA and Violet both strong, but not enough to be a sure bet versus Killer or JYP, that's why its not death group. That's not what a group of death is...a group of death is where pretty much everyone in the group is totally badass, not where one person completely outshines the rest | ||
ChiXoo
Germany37 Posts
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Homework
United States283 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- So you feel comfortable playing against DRG and Supernova, two players on fire right now? | ||
Sareth
Germany1008 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- usually i would agree with these posts, but this time idra got imo in the hardest group. Supernova? DRG? Kas? All 3 have the potential to win the whole thing. | ||
Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
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DreamChaser
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Aw come on MMA and violet in the same group? I would be impressed if anybody else even made it out. | ||
theMiNUS
United States333 Posts
On March 02 2012 09:06 Ruscour wrote: That's not what a group of death is...a group of death is where pretty much everyone in the group is totally badass, not where one person completely outshines the rest it's like some people were born yesterday... OT, group A is STACKED!!! | ||
kAelle_sc
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Geo.Rion
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Limelights
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godSilla
Germany2 Posts
Hasu, MC so good <3 | ||
keioh
France1099 Posts
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iNbluE
Switzerland674 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- No. Because of DRG, SuperNova and Kas. I voted D but Idra didn't even enter in consideration in my choice. | ||
parcivaL
Germany6 Posts
DRG and FruitDealer won't be attending and were replaced with Darkforce and Select. I'm happy for DF, but DRG is a huge loss ![]() | ||
ishboh
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katana-0815
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HiTeK532
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
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voy
Poland348 Posts
voted C. | ||
Marddox
United Kingdom108 Posts
![]() WE MISS YOU FD! | ||
Dwayn
Germany949 Posts
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Dwayn
Germany949 Posts
DRG >= MMA Supernova > Violet Kas = JYP Real >= Socke Idra > Strelok Feast = Killer | ||
StatikKhaos
United States214 Posts
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Grohg
United States243 Posts
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oopsyoucantmove
United States39 Posts
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aesmith8
United States22 Posts
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JMDj
United States454 Posts
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Wanderville
Honduras12 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- Idra acutally seems to be the weaker player in that group, poeple are voting for it because of DRG, Supernova, Kas. Feast and Real are also very good EU players but they haven't really broken through... Still both seem to be playing better than Idra. | ||
Twisted450
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Phays
Sweden162 Posts
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Jornada
United States223 Posts
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Nothingtosay
United States875 Posts
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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
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Madars
Latvia166 Posts
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Ssnik
Austria66 Posts
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routinetrafficstop
United States180 Posts
On February 28 2012 09:07 carloselcoco wrote: D does not compare to A at all. People are only selecting D because it has IdrA in it -.- DRG... SUPERNOVA... Idra wasn't even on my mind when I voted for this group also they are all stacked really... A is a close second and C a close 3rd... even B has MC and some solid foreigners. Looks like a great event to come! EDIT if DRG is out then A it is now XD | ||
megapants
United States1314 Posts
edit: ah, no drg. idra still strong as well. | ||
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