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djbhINDI
Profile Joined June 2011
United States372 Posts
September 19 2011 23:54 GMT
#101
On September 20 2011 08:07 nodule wrote:
I also found this only when going back to look at the old PR thread.

I'm okay with Jangbi at #1, even though it hurts that Flash isn't going out as #1 on his last PR. Because—mark my words—it will be his last. I also battle with carpal tunnel problems, and I guarantee that he isn't coming back.

Whether or not you're right, I don't think you have to bash his chances like that.
You can't emphasize enough how much you need to be a paradigm shifter. - Savior
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
September 19 2011 23:58 GMT
#102
Oh, nice rank, Sun..no?
Jae /_\
JANGBIII!I!!! fuck yeah!
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
September 20 2011 00:03 GMT
#103
On September 20 2011 08:53 djbhINDI wrote:
A lot of people have said this, and I don't get it. Why is JangBi winning important to esports?


One of the most gut-wrenching entertaining individual league finals in a while, huge fan turnout, inspirational story for a progamer, first protoss to win in years, breaking of the silver curse, living up to the hype - which do you need explaining? : )
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10233 Posts
September 20 2011 00:04 GMT
#104
On September 20 2011 07:22 Yxes2211 wrote:
I would love to see a merger between FOX, MBC, and Oz

WHOA THERE. powerhouse team INC? Yeah that's a bit imba lmao. JD, Baby, Sea, Killer, Midas, Shine, Jaehoon <--- trollololol, etc. That's gonna be one friggin tough team, one S-class followed up with solid A-teamers Lets not get too ahead of ourselves.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Pippah
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark356 Posts
September 20 2011 00:53 GMT
#105
On September 20 2011 09:03 chongu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 08:53 djbhINDI wrote:
A lot of people have said this, and I don't get it. Why is JangBi winning important to esports?


One of the most gut-wrenching entertaining individual league finals in a while, huge fan turnout, inspirational story for a progamer, first protoss to win in years, breaking of the silver curse, living up to the hype - which do you need explaining? : )




SO true <3<3 !
LinkinPork
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 01:12:26
September 20 2011 01:11 GMT
#106
On September 20 2011 08:53 djbhINDI wrote:
A lot of people have said this, and I don't get it. Why is JangBi winning important to esports?


People love Cinderella runs. For Jangbi to go from getting slapped around in Winners League to OSL gold (all the way from the prelims, and having to beat flash in ro8) is pretty amazing.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 20 2011 01:24 GMT
#107
Jangbi the almighty! Bow before him or die!
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
September 20 2011 02:24 GMT
#108
JangBi FTW! Although Flash is still a better player heh.
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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
September 20 2011 03:03 GMT
#109
What does it mean when we have a Protoss as #1 in Power Rank?!
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
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nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
September 20 2011 03:07 GMT
#110
On September 20 2011 08:54 djbhINDI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 08:07 nodule wrote:
I also found this only when going back to look at the old PR thread.

I'm okay with Jangbi at #1, even though it hurts that Flash isn't going out as #1 on his last PR. Because—mark my words—it will be his last. I also battle with carpal tunnel problems, and I guarantee that he isn't coming back.

Whether or not you're right, I don't think you have to bash his chances like that.


I'm not going to be unrealistically positive in a forum he doesn't read (I'd wouldn't say it to his face).

I'm just sad that Flash—the best broodwar player ever—isn't getting the recognition he would if he retired. He might play again, but only for a short while, and will never again be Flash.

Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
September 20 2011 03:14 GMT
#111
NOOOO STOP THIS INJUSTICE!!

BRING BACK PRRR
▲ ▲ ▲
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
September 20 2011 03:14 GMT
#112
On September 20 2011 08:53 djbhINDI wrote:
A lot of people have said this, and I don't get it. Why is JangBi winning important to esports?


Well, it's not as important as, say, Boxer coming back and winning the OSL. But Jangbi descended pretty much the deepest depths possible as a BW pro, from one of the best in the game to one of the worst, posting a 25% win record for the good part of a year. To overcome that and rise again to the very top is kind of magical.

I think pretty much everyone thought his run would sputter out. Make it past the prelims? Okay. Squeak by the first round in tiebreakers? Alright. But he's dead against Flash, right? Oh, not he isn't. Soo, the ZvP sniper is next. Oh, 3-0. But Soo's a scrub—sure Fantasy will take him down, the guy who just embarrassed Jangbi's much better teammate 3-0 the last time he made to the finals? Some how, some way, no, he didn't.
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 03:21:48
September 20 2011 03:20 GMT
#113
I didn't really follow BW at all, until I started coming to team liquid, but I have really found Jangbi's resurrection to be compelling.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
ggggbabybabybaby
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada304 Posts
September 20 2011 03:57 GMT
#114
This is going to be an epic troll but...

Maybe Fantasy threw game 5 because SC needed some new life and having Jangbi win instead of the crown prince makes a better story. Fantasy sat on a trust fund for most of game 5 and threw away a huge food count lead. I only watched the game twice so I didn't fully analyze or anything but stuff like not even having 1 tank sieged at home for the goon counter attack?

KeSPA pulling a Savior perhaps?

Just some food for thought.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 04:03:13
September 20 2011 04:03 GMT
#115
lol what I didn't even see this.

lulzy rank btw (for some definition of lulzy)
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Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
September 20 2011 04:11 GMT
#116
JangBi read this

Well, he read the part about him.
I drop suckas like Plinko
RBorin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States40 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 04:46:36
September 20 2011 04:45 GMT
#117
On September 20 2011 12:57 ggggbabybabybaby wrote:
This is going to be an epic troll but...

Maybe Fantasy threw game 5 because SC needed some new life and having Jangbi win instead of the crown prince makes a better story. Fantasy sat on a trust fund for most of game 5 and threw away a huge food count lead. I only watched the game twice so I didn't fully analyze or anything but stuff like not even having 1 tank sieged at home for the goon counter attack?

KeSPA pulling a Savior perhaps?

Just some food for thought.

I actually had this idea right after I heard that Fantasy won. Actually, I had it after Soo lost. I'm not seriously suggesting that this occured by the way, just that the idea of this going down entered my head and fascinated me. Soo and Fanta would have been idiots to actually throw their matches because either of them winning the OSL would have been at least as significant as Jangbi's victory. Fanta would have been the first player to win back-to-back OSLs in a long time, truly making him the Crown Prince of the SKT line while Soo would have been the first Royal Roader in ages and become the rookie to watch out for.

Actually I take that back. Both those are kind of lame compared to Jangbi's heartwrenching cinderella story, but players are players. There's no way Fanta or Soo even entertained the thought knowing what SKT fans expected of them and what was at stake
Elo is a system named after its creator, Arpad Elo. It is not an acronym. You don't capitalize it.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
September 20 2011 04:50 GMT
#118
Yeah. The answer is that Jangbi is just really really really good. I know it's hard to notice that when he's been slumping so bad for so long, but there was a time where he was basically the best player on the scene in spite of TBLS -- and was the best player to never win a title before he did. Give the man his due, the only player who wasn't 100% against him was maybe Flash, and that's purely physical (Flash got outplayed strategically, anyhow).
Remember Violet.
Docmedical
Profile Joined November 2010
Libya75 Posts
September 20 2011 05:37 GMT
#119
Jangbi deserves his spot. Winning an OSL with such good play deserves first. Flash played very convincingly during the SPL finals. Its a close call, but I value an OSL win over a SPL.

We had amazing series in the last few months. Its so odd seeing people saying esports is dying in korea while we are having intense finals.

Also thanks for the power ranks. It clearly deserves much more recognition then it gets. I think I speak for the community when I say thank you for your contributions, flamewheel.
derp
Docmedical
Profile Joined November 2010
Libya75 Posts
September 20 2011 05:41 GMT
#120
On September 20 2011 12:57 ggggbabybabybaby wrote:
This is going to be an epic troll but...

Maybe Fantasy threw game 5 because SC needed some new life and having Jangbi win instead of the crown prince makes a better story. Fantasy sat on a trust fund for most of game 5 and threw away a huge food count lead. I only watched the game twice so I didn't fully analyze or anything but stuff like not even having 1 tank sieged at home for the goon counter attack?

KeSPA pulling a Savior perhaps?

Just some food for thought.



Dude don't say that. He couldn't keep up with the pace of the game and his macro fell behind. Its not typical of Fantasy but it does happen. To suggest that KeSPA is pulling a Savior is insane. The BW community as a whole flipped **** over the issue. KeSPA + coaches and the players took it much more harder than the fans. To think they will turn around and fix matches is extremely unlikely.
derp
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