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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 19 2011 06:41 GMT
#461
Calling Hydra inconsistent is really weird. The guy has reached two straight Starleague semi-finals (going all the way one season, only stopped by the eventual winner and Starcraft savant Flash the other) and has a 65% winrate (or something around there) over the course of the PL season. If he isn't consistent, then who is?

I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 11:55:48
July 19 2011 11:55 GMT
#462
*meant for another thread*
Writer
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 19 2011 13:28 GMT
#463
Light tearing it up, Hoejja aswell. Thing about the others is that they aren't able to play as many games as they could. Jaedong only a few for example.

offtopic a bit but, lmao did you change your sig Swanized

Hon_sin you fattie.
WriterXiao8~~
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
July 19 2011 13:46 GMT
#464
imo hon_sin can only fail so hard at cheesing because he spent the whole week eating cakes and pies instead of practicing
Writer
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 19 2011 14:06 GMT
#465
Ya, JD's complete lack of good opportunities to prove himself this month makes me sad. Makes it really hard to make a fair ranking.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
July 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#466
Players in contention for the PR right now:

Flash
JD
Bisu
Hydra
Zero
Light
Bogus - won 2-0 in MST and won all his games in PL. Too bad his team failed and he doesn't have more opportunities to prove himself.
Hoejja

Other potential candidates are Horang2, Movie, Best, Sea, Jangbi.

Fantasy has a great opportunity to redeem himself if he can sweep his OSL group, advance from his MST group and do his job in the PL finals. It's a strong possibility too consider that Sea is the only difficult opponent in his OSL group (hiya kind of sucks at TvT), his MST group is a piece of cake, and we know he's capable of showing an S-class performance at an important event like the PL finals.

Stork may be able to steal a #10 spot or something if he can somehow make it out of the OSL group and the MST group. I don't see it happening though.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 17:11:58
July 19 2011 15:48 GMT
#467
Why is killer not on the other potential candidates?

Edit: Zero! WHERE YOU AT? WHERE YOU AT?
darkness overpowering
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
July 19 2011 19:33 GMT
#468
Killer only has the OSL. I know the same is true with JD but JD has a much more established reputation and he had a great streak going into this month that included beating Flash twice.
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
July 19 2011 20:34 GMT
#469
On July 19 2011 23:06 Holgerius wrote:
Ya, JD's complete lack of good opportunities to prove himself this month makes me sad. Makes it really hard to make a fair ranking.


I feel like JD has already proved himself last month and kept up the winning streak (no losses at all) surely calls for #1 spot easily.

Flash, on the other hand, would have lost his #1 spot last month if it wasn't for winning the 3rd starleague due to his inconsistent performance. Now, it's become even harder for him to justify him even for #2 spot because he lost to shuttle / zero and there's no starleague win to save him. I feel bad for Flash =/ , especially because he has a wrist problem but what can you do. =/
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 19 2011 20:54 GMT
#470
Huh? Flash is indisputably the star of KT's playoff roster (just look at his games!!!) and he has OSL even if his team fails to advance. Minimum of 3 more games for Flash, 8 games played so far in July.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
July 19 2011 22:30 GMT
#471
On July 20 2011 05:34 GhostOwl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 23:06 Holgerius wrote:
Ya, JD's complete lack of good opportunities to prove himself this month makes me sad. Makes it really hard to make a fair ranking.


I feel like JD has already proved himself last month and kept up the winning streak (no losses at all) surely calls for #1 spot easily.

Flash, on the other hand, would have lost his #1 spot last month if it wasn't for winning the 3rd starleague due to his inconsistent performance. Now, it's become even harder for him to justify him even for #2 spot because he lost to shuttle / zero and there's no starleague win to save him. I feel bad for Flash =/ , especially because he has a wrist problem but what can you do. =/

Unfortunately, winning 3 OSL games against mediocre opponents (assuming he actually wins them) just aren't enough to get you a #1 spot. Flash may have lost a couple of games but he's still playing an important role in PL and it looks like he'll sweep his OSL group as well (small chance he'll lose to Stork, but I don't see him losing to Shine).

Flash already holds the #1 spot and his reputation speaks for itself. On top of that, if you consider the fact that he's helped his team make it through two round in the playoffs, and that he might potentially make it out of a tough OSL group, there's no way he can lose his spot.

It's a little unfortunate for Jaedong because he might actually be the strongest and most consistent player at the moment but in a month where he can do little to prove that statement, it's hard to give him the top spot when someone like Flash is having a much greater impact.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
July 19 2011 22:32 GMT
#472
On July 20 2011 05:34 GhostOwl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 23:06 Holgerius wrote:
Ya, JD's complete lack of good opportunities to prove himself this month makes me sad. Makes it really hard to make a fair ranking.


I feel like JD has already proved himself last month and kept up the winning streak (no losses at all) surely calls for #1 spot easily.

Flash, on the other hand, would have lost his #1 spot last month if it wasn't for winning the 3rd starleague due to his inconsistent performance. Now, it's become even harder for him to justify him even for #2 spot because he lost to shuttle / zero and there's no starleague win to save him. I feel bad for Flash =/ , especially because he has a wrist problem but what can you do. =/


I'm not sure I follow. Flash went 3-1 vs STX, the single loss a well-played game vs Shuttle, whom he then beat the next day on the same map. Flash went 3-1 vs Stars, the single loss to ZerO using an unexpected build on a Zerg-favored map. He beat Hydra handily in the OSL Ro16 and is almost certainly favored vs Stork and especially Shine. He's an MSL seed who won't even have to play a game for another month practically. Unless he collapses dramatically vs CJ (or SKT assuming KT's lineup holds up to get that far) I'd say Flash is doing just fine as far as holding on to #1 is concerned. That loss streak, in retrospect, just looks like he mailed it in for a few weeks on games that didn't matter at all - and given what we know of his health condition, who's going to blame him?

Beyond that, who's a more plausible #1? Jaedong's probably going to beat Hyuk and hyvaa handily, but those will be his only games on the month, not enough to jump Flash. If he loses one of those, not a chance even if he advances.

Bisu has an easy MST group which he should 2-0. Any claim he can make has to assume that and then be based on his PL finals performance - and even then, that will be a max of 2 games, and if he doesn't beat Flash may not be enough

Hydra already lost one game to Flash this month: he should probably beat Stork and Shine but his placement also will largely depend on playoff performance - and given the maps, I doubt CJ's going to be fielding him as the ace except maybe on Day 1 (PL finals I don't know about, obviously).

tl;dr: there's still some Starcraft left in the month but right now Flash looks like a pretty solid #1.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
July 20 2011 01:09 GMT
#473
On July 20 2011 05:34 GhostOwl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 23:06 Holgerius wrote:
Ya, JD's complete lack of good opportunities to prove himself this month makes me sad. Makes it really hard to make a fair ranking.


I feel like JD has already proved himself last month and kept up the winning streak (no losses at all) surely calls for #1 spot easily.

Flash, on the other hand, would have lost his #1 spot last month if it wasn't for winning the 3rd starleague due to his inconsistent performance. Now, it's become even harder for him to justify him even for #2 spot because he lost to shuttle / zero and there's no starleague win to save him. I feel bad for Flash =/ , especially because he has a wrist problem but what can you do. =/


Most of JD's winning streak was already accounted for last month. He's 2-0 in July and at best will go 4-0 for the month. Not really enough to push him over the top to #1 IMO. Flash is 6-2 so far this month and will likely improve that record since CJ doesn't have anyone with a better than 30% chance of beating Flash besides Snow (assuming Skyhigh is still slumping). Flash's OSL group is tougher than JD's as well.If both players win out until the next power rank I expect Flash to be #1 easily.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
July 20 2011 01:30 GMT
#474
As good as Jaedong has played for the last month and a half, if Flash performs well against CJ no one else can be #1.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 20 2011 01:33 GMT
#475
huge Jaedong fan, but with so little games and alot of them ZvZ(although his ZvZ wasn't the best this year)I don't think he should get #1, Flash should get #1 depending on his performance against CJ and his run in the OSL.
WriterXiao8~~
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
July 20 2011 02:15 GMT
#476
Flash deserves #1 unless he chokes majorly hard in the upcoming week. JD should be number 2 if he wins out i think, unless Bisu/Hydra perform incredibly well. If JD wins out he's 1 win away from his career best winstreak and that deserves some love.

Hope he does it, even if JD doesn't get in the top 2 XD
Jaedong and Baby
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 20 2011 05:55 GMT
#477
Perfective winning back to back closers, clearly the most clutch player in proleague. 8)
Remember Violet.
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
July 20 2011 12:59 GMT
#478
I hope Hoejja keeps some place in PR, his play is the reason why KT is still in playoffs.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 20 2011 13:10 GMT
#479
JD losing to Hyuk was not very good for his chances to get #1, was it?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
July 20 2011 13:15 GMT
#480
Since I don't think there even was a chance, it doesn't really matter. It is however pretty bad for my health to have to fear another week. OSL-groups are quite brutal.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
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