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kerpal
United Kingdom2695 Posts
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Saiwa
Germany789 Posts
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
If you have everything you need (money and time) to repeat the succes right now, then just go for it imo. So long as you don't compromise with the quality. | ||
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kerpal
United Kingdom2695 Posts
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Astans
205 Posts
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phyK
Germany73 Posts
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Tadrin
United States15 Posts
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kmhuey
United States34 Posts
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Crais
Canada2136 Posts
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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fAnTaCy
United States893 Posts
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Sobba
Sweden576 Posts
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R3m3mb3rM3
Germany954 Posts
keep it sth special | ||
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DailYLeet
Germany827 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
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genius_man16
United States749 Posts
Anyway, I suppose that it would be best to do the TSL as a Bi-Annual event, keep it special but not so far apart that people forget etc. I mean 12 months is a LONG time. | ||
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Parsistamon
United States390 Posts
So keep it sparse, keep the magic alive. On another note, I would love to see Bo5 in the Ro32. I know that would take a long time to cast but I think it would give the better player more of a chance to shine. I'm not saying (at all) that this TSL was somehow unfair, but simply that the competition was so damn tight, it hurts to see it based on Bo3. | ||
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KinosJourney2
Sweden1811 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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dtz
5834 Posts
don't "whore it out" , keep it special and memorable. if tl want to organize another tournament in the meantime ( or some sponsor is very keen to give out money), make a team league! | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
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mDuo13
United States307 Posts
You've gotta give yourself time to prepare so you can top the previous event... and that's gonna be tough after TSL3. =) | ||
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Kyhol
Canada2574 Posts
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seaofsaturn
United States489 Posts
On May 18 2011 02:04 dtz wrote: wait a little or once a year definitely. don't "whore it out" , keep it special and memorable. if tl want to organize another tournament in the meantime ( or some sponsor is very keen to give out money), make a team league! Pretty good idea. Need more team leagues. Leave TSL for once or twice a year. | ||
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MrMongo
Germany64 Posts
On May 18 2011 02:02 KinosJourney2 wrote: TSL once a year or so is good, if it is held too often it loses prestige. Can't really understand that. GSL doesn't lose prestige, because it's like.. monthly. In my opinion 2 times a year would be great even 3. The state of the game, who is the best, who currently has the best strategies, what patch we are on. It changes daily. One Champion a year is waaaay outdated when the next TSL begins. | ||
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yiodee
United States137 Posts
it is the best choice IMO | ||
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ShLiM
Bulgaria178 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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JayDee_
548 Posts
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Hondelul
1999 Posts
a bit less pauses between the broadcasts perhaps? (if possible, with all the MLG, Dreamhack and other big lans there might be too much on one weekend) Or simple more series on one broadcast day. Well, if I think about qualifiers (more than last time/for korean server as well) it´s perhaps time to start them now if I want 2 TSL a year  | ||
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Rabbitmaster
1357 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
I just can't bring myself to vote for anything other than start qualifiers now. It's just so much better than everything else. =P | ||
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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KazKamasa
Sweden186 Posts
On May 18 2011 02:11 seaofsaturn wrote: Pretty good idea. Need more team leagues. Leave TSL for once or twice a year. Yeah, once or twice a year. It needs to be special and great (For example OSL/MSL)Like look at the GSL, new GSL tournament every month. Thats alot of games and you don't have the time to look at all of them. Then you also know that it will be a new soon. So you only care of the semi-finals and Final . Or maybe thats only me. >.< | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
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Doppelganger
488 Posts
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speedphlux
Bulgaria962 Posts
Besides, I'm still recovering emotionally and physically after that insane final. Almost had 7 heartattacks, one each game. I'll need time, as a spectator. I'm sure Day[J] will need time as well. Gosh, I seriously got worried for his health in that last game in particular. Fuck man ... That TSL shit is serious ! Can be hazardous to your life you know. | ||
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Sworn
Canada920 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On May 18 2011 01:46 XsebT wrote: Just whenever you're ready to bring us the show of a life time... once again. If you have everything you need (money and time) to repeat the succes right now, then just go for it imo. So long as you don't compromise with the quality. he said it. dont rush anything just take your time and bring us an even better show | ||
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sheaRZerg
United States613 Posts
GSL code S would be so much better if it had the frequency of the bw proleagues or less... Make it a bigger tournament...increase the prize pool...have longer series...more competitors next time, just dont rush into it...the quality and excitement will suffer otherwise. | ||
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TheAwesomeAll
Netherlands1609 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + also it would be better for the exclusivity and the viewer count if it was once a year and stuff, but i still feel like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW | ||
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Zerum
Sweden348 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
ton of things that could be fixed as well, really didn't like the qualification format and the amount of invites:qualifiers ratio | ||
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
I love TSL :D | ||
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goswser
United States3519 Posts
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
Another thing I would think would be awesome is instead of having the Finals only Live try and budget a bit more money and fly out the Final Four participants and have the Semi's Live and a week later the Finals and Third Place match Live as well. Can't wait for TSL4! | ||
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LarJarsE
United States1378 Posts
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
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Fluffet
Sweden47 Posts
 . I think once every 6 months is good, if not more.It's hard, because once every year is too little. Especially in e-sports, but as I said it's impossible to claim you've won the coolest tournament if it's played too often. | ||
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
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Arkqn
France589 Posts
And why not bring a TSL with SC2 AND bw | ||
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Char711
United States862 Posts
On May 18 2011 01:50 Tadrin wrote: I think that TSL is something special. While I don't want to wait a whole year perhaps a month or two would be good it doesn't loose it's feeling of "we are seeing something special here" That being said I can hardly wait until the next one begins! Thank you for saying exactly what I wanted to say. I always want more TSL, but we don't want to make it into something incredibly common. A little break lets it keep the mystical feel it currently has. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
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Gaxton
Sweden2328 Posts
Agree with two events a year max. It should be something special that you really look forward to. There is enough constantly-ongoing events, don't want TSL to blend in with them/lose its spark. | ||
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cavalier117
United States430 Posts
dont make the tourney last 2 monthes. honestly it took so long (especially getting through the round of 32) to progress that, by the end of it, the nostalgia of the tourney itself was gone. Thank God for Thorzain, he kept the hype up by being the underdog. if it went like everyone predicted with an all/mostly korean final 4 dominated by MC. i dont think viewer count or the level anticipation, would have been half as high. | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
ThorZain needs his 5 minutes of fame, he deserves it. Improve on the rules, get some new ideas together (IGN proleague for inspiration+more work on LAN part) and hit it in a month or so. TSL 4 life. | ||
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Mateo0
France112 Posts
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11047 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
dont make the tourney last 2 monthes. honestly it took so long (especially getting through the round of 32) to progress that, by the end of it, the nostalgia of the tourney itself was gone. I, for one, strongly disagree. TSL 3 has given us the comfort of being able to watch live in the weekend, when most people are at home and not working or studying their asses off. Making it last less and still have the same amount of games would mean streaming weekdays, and sure, some would be able to watch live, while for others it would be dead night (think like 3-4 am) and others would still be at work/school. If for some having the tournament more often would make it less special, for me not being to watch it live would make it less special. Just my 2 cents. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 18 2011 03:49 cavalier117 wrote: new entry on the poll: dont make the tourney last 2 monthes. honestly it took so long (especially getting through the round of 32) to progress that, by the end of it, the nostalgia of the tourney itself was gone. Thank God for Thorzain, he kept the hype up by being the underdog. if it went like everyone predicted with an all/mostly korean final 4 dominated by MC. i dont think viewer count or the level anticipation, would have been half as high. lol your wrong. The format of the tournament lasting this long is what BW starleagues did and makes it a lot more exciting then if it lasted a week or 2. It provides hours of endless entertainment and lasts 2 months is awesome. I hope the TSL goes like MSL/OSL of bw, 2-3 times a year (can't remember which) because they take like 3 months to do a tournament would be awesome .I do hope TSL4 qualifiers start in like a month or something with less invites, would be awesome :D | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
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_Nano_
Germany51 Posts
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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cavalier117
United States430 Posts
On May 18 2011 04:05 MasterOfPuppets wrote: I would love it, personally, if it were a bi-annual or even tri-annual event, as long as the quality (of stream, cast and especially games) is on par with that of events past. I think that would greatly satisfy the masses without making it less prestigious or special. I, for one, strongly disagree. TSL 3 has given us the comfort of being able to watch live in the weekend, when most people are at home and not working or studying their asses off. Making it last less and still have the same amount of games would mean streaming weekdays, and sure, some would be able to watch live, while for others it would be dead night (think like 3-4 am) and others would still be at work/school. If for some having the tournament more often would make it less special, for me not being to watch it live would make it less special. Just my 2 cents. understandable, but one thing to remember. Team Liquid understand their fans and as such, their VODs are free. (NASL and especially GSL take a hint) you can watch whenever, and however you want. perfect example of a perfectly timed Tourney of the same(or at close) hype and player pool was the IPL. the action was consistant. the player pool was 32, the production value and everything top notch. and the length, perfect. like 2 weeks long. im sorry but waiting TWO WEEKS for one set (the finals) was just too long. | ||
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tensionz
United States130 Posts
Just kidding, start the qualifiers now! | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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Tfunk
United States45 Posts
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
Start qualifiers in june through august. Tournament begins late august through early october 3 invites (naniwa, thorzain, kas) 6 European Qualifiers (5 point leaders) 6 American Qualifiers (5 point leaders) 4 Korean Qualifiers (3 point leaders) No cross qualification (players may not attempt qualification on 2 different servers). That's just my opinion. | ||
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DarkShadowz
Sweden321 Posts
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KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
Otherwise it will start to feel like just any other tournament. | ||
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nitdkim
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salito
1647 Posts
Voted once a year. If it's too often it won't be as epic. (See: GSL 345747369837654 times a year) | ||
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KNICK
Germany248 Posts
There's so many other tournaments out there that no one with only 24 hours in their day can follow and TSL (at least to me) is the most exceptional and prestigious Starcraft (2) competition there is. Simply because it's been around since BroodWar and I have so many fond memories of the first two. Not to mention the great production values, player line-up and matches. Turning it into a regular tournament schedule-wise would take away from the bits of history that come with every TSL, simply because there'd be so many matches going on one after another, comparatively. I also like the kind of "exclusiveness" that comes with being a TSL winner, or even having made it to the Ro16. Not many people can brag about it and holding a TSL every other month would also make this obsolete rather quickly. Summary: I would really like two every year, but I'm also okay with one. Not really liking the idea of more than that, but of course I'd still watch every single one, no matter the intervals inbetween. | ||
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jstop311
United States12 Posts
the more SC2 events the better IMO | ||
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Tsuki.eu
Portugal1049 Posts
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ViperaViRuS
United States82 Posts
Additionally, keep the form of having the games casted on Saturdays and Sundays, allows for greater # of viewers in my opinion, lets the tournament last far longer, and allows for greater hype throughout the course of the week leading up to the matches. | ||
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yeti
United States258 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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Kotschmonaut
Germany117 Posts
I mean who of us knows that at the moment the Icehockey WorldCup is taking place ? Maybe a bunch of Canadians ( haha, sorry for that troll joke, im not even american but i like this kind of jokes ^^ ) Answer : maybe 30 % of users. Where I live : Virtually no one. BUT IF THERE IS A FIFA FOOTBALL WORLD CUP WHO KNOWS ABOUT IT ? EVEEEEEERYYYYYONEEE. Hell even people who dont know nothing bout football will probably know the host countries till '22 ( Brazil, Russia, Qatar ). Why is that ? Because its special. Why is it special ? Because it's only once every 4 freaking years. Damn. So if TSL is supposed to stand out from other big tournaments like GSL or NASL, once a year seems like a reasonable time frame. PS: Sorry to all Icehockey fans. I do like Icehockey | ||
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Tufas
Austria2259 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6166 Posts
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TheLantern
United States11 Posts
TSL will loss all its hype and grandeur if it happens to often. | ||
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KayCee
Belgium8 Posts
Anyway, can't wait for the next one | ||
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MinoMino
Norway1103 Posts
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Mellon
Sweden917 Posts
On May 18 2011 05:01 Kotschmonaut wrote: Once a year dudes. I mean who of us knows that at the moment the Icehockey WorldCup is taking place ? Maybe a bunch of Canadians ( haha, sorry for that troll joke, im not even american but i like this kind of jokes ^^ ) Answer : maybe 30 % of users. Where I live : Virtually no one. BUT IF THERE IS A FIFA FOOTBALL WORLD CUP WHO KNOWS ABOUT IT ? EVEEEEEERYYYYYONEEE. Hell even people who dont know nothing bout football will probably know the host countries till '22 ( Brazil, Russia, Qatar ). Why is that ? Because its special. Why is it special ? Because it's only once every 4 freaking years. Damn. So if TSL is supposed to stand out from other big tournaments like GSL or NASL, once a year seems like a reasonable time frame. PS: Sorry to all Icehockey fans. I do like Icehockey Got a good point, however perhaps twice a year? The event was great and well spread out so i was excited for all the games. I don't want another qualifier to happen right away, but i don't wanna wait another year TSL 3 was amazing, if TSL 4 can bring same level of casting, players and excitement i want to see it at least twice a year, but don't make it something we expect and get bored of eventually. Rather once a year than just another monthly / quarterly tournament! | ||
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Inertia_EU
United Kingdom513 Posts
TSL4 NOWW <3 | ||
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thOr6136
Slovenia1775 Posts
On May 18 2011 02:02 KinosJourney2 wrote: TSL once a year or so is good, if it is held too often it loses prestige. this, once a year or even less is cool | ||
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Jred
United States27 Posts
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Excessive
Denmark151 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
if you have it too often its gonna a lose a lot of its value | ||
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
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10or10
Sweden517 Posts
On May 18 2011 05:01 Kotschmonaut wrote: Once a year dudes. I mean who of us knows that at the moment the Icehockey WorldCup is taking place ? Maybe a bunch of Canadians ( haha, sorry for that troll joke, im not even american but i like this kind of jokes ^^ ) Answer : maybe 30 % of users. Where I live : Virtually no one. BUT IF THERE IS A FIFA FOOTBALL WORLD CUP WHO KNOWS ABOUT IT ? EVEEEEEERYYYYYONEEE. Hell even people who dont know nothing bout football will probably know the host countries till '22 ( Brazil, Russia, Qatar ). Why is that ? Because its special. Why is it special ? Because it's only once every 4 freaking years. Damn. So if TSL is supposed to stand out from other big tournaments like GSL or NASL, once a year seems like a reasonable time frame. PS: Sorry to all Icehockey fans. I do like Icehockey I voted for once a year, due to reasons aligning with Kotschmonauts post. You need time of lows to appreciate the tops. | ||
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
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EliteReplay
Dominican Republic913 Posts
On May 18 2011 05:56 MorroW wrote: twice per year is perfect if you have it too often its gonna a lose a lot of its value this is my vote too | ||
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
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Synwave
United States2803 Posts
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Zedders
Canada450 Posts
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NEgroidZerg
United States244 Posts
If you can consistantly provide a prize pool and improve quality then I would love to see TSL as often as GSL. Would that be viable for Teamliquid to do? | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
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WarChimp
Australia943 Posts
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Captain Mayhem
Sweden774 Posts
And potentially makes the players fight harder to win it too. | ||
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MothOpe
Austria10 Posts
But another TSL right now would be pretty sweeeet | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
But i voted wait a bit anyways, it needs to be a prestegious and awaited evenement, it needs anouncements of incotrol making anouncements. | ||
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OnFire
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legatus legionis
Netherlands559 Posts
I think that if it's something you want to continue doing on a regular schedule. You can definitely do more than once a year but not by much. The months of TLOpens to qualify and the stretched out Bracket play in itself probably span 1/4th of a year? Even more, just checked it. The first TLOpen Qualifier was on January 8th 2011. That's what 5 and a half months ago? Two times a year, not more I'd say. And considering the stat above, it could be good to look into condensing some parts. Otherwise you would be chaining them and I do feel that takes away from the hype and prestige. Maybe seasonal? Summer and Winter, that's pretty old school | ||
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tehguy
United States41 Posts
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DarkGeneral
Canada328 Posts
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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Lavalamp799
United States554 Posts
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wrestlingfool08
United States139 Posts
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L3gendary
Canada1470 Posts
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DorF
Sweden961 Posts
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Nazgral
Denmark28 Posts
On May 18 2011 02:03 Roggay wrote: Wait a bit, otherwise the hype will go down, TSL HAS to be special! I agree | ||
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
On May 18 2011 01:47 kerpal wrote: SOMEONE VOTED FOR NO MORE TSLs!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! They should be banned from TL!!! | ||
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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Sir Alex
United States159 Posts
I think this format is and has always been one of the TSL's biggest strengths, and we've definitely seen that reflected in its results. So for this poll I'm thinking about not the next broadcast, but when the next qualifiers will start, and I think they'll have even more hype and interest if they begin within 0-3 months of the previous finals, rather than waiting ~6 months to hold only one TSL a year. While yes, overdoing it is obviously bad, the full qualifier + broadcast format takes about 6 months anyway, so barring a massive format change I think the TSL would fit very nicely at twice a year. | ||
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rift
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
I think holding these once a year doesn't quite seem enough -- assuming TL has like a sponsor and stuff ready to go... but we certainly don't one every other month like the GSL, of course. I'd like to see two or three a year, depending upon their length and sponsorship availability. I'm definitely ready to lose pathetically in the qualifiers again. | ||
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On May 18 2011 02:02 KinosJourney2 wrote: TSL once a year or so is good, if it is held too often it loses prestige. Pretty much this. Also, I'd like to add that TL has always been known for the quality productions it issues, and the staff has never been afraid to delay a project for as long as necessary until it's perfect. I'd rather be hyped up for a balls-to-the-wall, uber-quality tournament consisting of the highest caliber of play once a year. The TSL would become devalued if held too frequently. | ||
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barkles
United States285 Posts
Maybe if the TL organization is hankering to run more tournaments they could get a team league going...although that would pose about 2 billion problems with the frequency that players are currently changing teams. I have to say though, I wouldn't be entirely opposed to the Korean format of 3 starleagues per year. In fact, if they could keep the prize money high for each event it would be pretty sweet. So I guess I'm undecided haha. | ||
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EsuFeaR
Canada40 Posts
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KneeDeeP
United States256 Posts
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erin[go]bragh
United States815 Posts
Unless you make one for Broodwar? ......<3? | ||
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MattyClutch
United States711 Posts
I can see pros and cons there, but I think it is the best choice. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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Indrium
United States2236 Posts
Nah, but for real, ASAP would be nice. | ||
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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whiterabbit
2675 Posts
Anyhow, TSL = eternal love! <3 | ||
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PiQLiQ
Sweden702 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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MaxField
United States2386 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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thekibk
United States116 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
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MountainGoat
United States507 Posts
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
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odder
United States405 Posts
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Trozz
Canada3454 Posts
GSL is once a month. Could we afford that? | ||
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Rinrun
Canada3509 Posts
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
It always hits when we least expect it. | ||
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JayDee_
548 Posts
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epikAnglory
United States1120 Posts
EDIT: To clarify I am not that big a fan of the TSL mainly due to the casters, but I am giving my honest opinion for any large tournament, one like the TSL. | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
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SiDX
New Zealand1975 Posts
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
Don't let it become just another starleague unless you've got something massive planned. | ||
HawaiianPig
Canada5155 Posts
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Vathus
Canada404 Posts
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
It would be awesome if the TSL could be held as awesome as real offline Starleagues, but $30k doesn't just come flying out of nowhere... | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On May 18 2011 02:02 KinosJourney2 wrote: TSL once a year or so is good, if it is held too often it loses prestige. This is pretty much my opinion. Also 99/(99+859+1058+1888) = 0.0253586066 1 in 40 people misclicked? Wow guys, mouse control plxzzzz | ||
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Gleve
United States206 Posts
On May 18 2011 09:40 Black Gun wrote: 2 a year would be perfect imho. 1 month of break, 3 months of qualifiers, 2 months of actual tsl. twice per year. Agree this Black Gun. Twice a year to keep the hype up | ||
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Kaguro
United States14 Posts
But yeah, once or twice a year sounds reasonable. | ||
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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
Just drop the teaser trailer whenever you feel like it. The TSL is a legendary tournment, so not knowing when, or even where is part of the fun. | ||
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Gaius Baltar
United States449 Posts
The main reason I say wait a while is because it sounds like the behind the scenes guys need a break. Let them have their rest so that when they come back TSL 4 will be every bit as perfect as TSL 3 was. I don't know if it is some intrinsic property of TSL or if Hot bid and R1ch really are wizards, but it seems like TSL has no choice but to be completely epic. It goes without saying the ro32 will be excellent. You know the finals will blow your mind. I expect the other leagues are studying TSL very hard to figure out what the secret ingredient is. | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
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R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
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Tegin
United States840 Posts
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Houron
United States97 Posts
On May 18 2011 11:50 R0YAL wrote: Absolutely no more than twice a year. It NEEDS its prestige. With you on that one. TSL3 (my first) was awesome!!! Holding this in my thoughts as the equivalent to the Starcraft Superbowl Twice a year seems a really safe bet, that way it doesn't lose it's awesome! | ||
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Clicker
United States1012 Posts
On May 18 2011 12:15 Houron wrote: With you on that one. TSL3 (my first) was awesome!!! Holding this in my thoughts as the equivalent to the Starcraft Superbowl Twice a year seems a really safe bet, that way it doesn't lose it's awesome! Both these posts sum it up really well. We have all of these regular tournaments to keep us fed. Then the epic TSLs twice a year to always really look forward to. | ||
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sleeepy
Canada777 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
Unless of course they mean TSL 3 was so Epic, that it will remain unrivaled | ||
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Kibibit
United States1551 Posts
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1oo
Portugal876 Posts
oh god, this made me laugh hard. | ||
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Syorm
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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ZergMaestro
United States169 Posts
A fall, and spring TSL would be cool. | ||
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Backpack
United States1776 Posts
On May 18 2011 11:50 R0YAL wrote: Absolutely no more than twice a year. It NEEDS its prestige. Agreed! | ||
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rfoster
United States1005 Posts
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
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Laneir
United States1160 Posts
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
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Tosho
Australia498 Posts
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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Kenderson
Canada280 Posts
There's still the same world class players competing so I don't see how winning a tournament that happens annually rather than twice a year or even more often makes it any more or less of a feat. Besides, WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO WATCH MORE STARCRAFT, PEOPLE?! Come on now lol. The TSL makes weekends more enjoyable. Is a bit of prestige really worth it? IMO definitely not. You, the viewers, aren't even the ones that would gain the prestige anyway, so who (other than the players) gives a shit? And if you do then maybe ask yourself why? I'm not even sure if any of the players competing in the TSL would care about the prestige aspect. Wouldn't they want more oppourtunities to compete in such a great tournament? | ||
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Sarang
Australia2363 Posts
Once a year sounds pretty good to me. ^^ | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
the best part about the TSL is that it never collides with the other tournaments, because you guys match the individual players schedules so well =D (apart from having created the best matches sc2 has seen so far <.<) i would say, get to work XD, but let me practice over the summer to join a TL Open and get my ass handed to me! | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7799 Posts
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adalcim
Germany166 Posts
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nemahsys
Canada457 Posts
W T F!? | ||
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schI2ler
129 Posts
The TSL for me is something bigger than a regular standart tournament. Therefor the winners to me are bigger than the winners of a weekly online cup. Excello.IefNaij liquid.tyler aka the one and only Nony mouz.ThorZaIN To make sure, that these heros stay among kings, TSL can't spamm the Winners-List. | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
On May 18 2011 02:03 MrMotionPicture wrote: One a year would be perfect. Sure it is sad that there would not be many, but it would be way more exciting when the time comes around I agree with this. Part of what makes TSL epic is that they're few and far between. A monthly TL Open wouldn't be bad though. | ||
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Mids
Sweden19 Posts
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Wesso
Netherlands1245 Posts
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schI2ler
129 Posts
On May 18 2011 16:50 schI2ler wrote: I voted "wait a lil bit" for this reason: The TSL for me is something bigger than a regular standart tournament. Therefor the winners to me are bigger than the winners of a weekly online cup. Excello.IefNaij liquid.tyler aka the one and only Nony mouz.ThorZaIN To make sure, that these heros stay among kings, TSL can't spamm the Winners-List. I thought about my post while shopping, I guess the point that I am trying to make is: I dont want players to win "a" TSL, I want players to win "the" TSL 4. | ||
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Shadowlash
Denmark30 Posts
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
You dont give your kids ice cream every day because they get used to it and all of a sudden it's nothing special anymore. But I WANT TSL 4 NOW , DADDY! | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
With qualifers and everything this one lasted a good six months? Maybe do some extra qualifiers, increase players or change format to accommodate more players. For me TSL is like Olympics, awesome and the highlight | ||
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Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
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Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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5ukkub
Poland507 Posts
so, not weekly, monthly or sth. and more players definately. 1 half a year is perfect. I think there should be more players, like 64 with half invitees half qualifiers. games should be condensed in like 1 month, max 2. I would love it even more then! | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
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Aurdon
United States2007 Posts
If it doesn't burn out the staff, it would be fantastic. | ||
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jorge_the_awesome
United States463 Posts
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
Need some more time till people stop talking about the previous matches, etc etc, IMO. Also, I'll have more time to prepare! :D | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
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iloveav
Poland1478 Posts
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Leetley
1796 Posts
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vposud
United States36 Posts
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FinnGamer
Germany2426 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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Grape
145 Posts
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3050 Posts
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ethil
Italy58 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
It is a special event, like a Birthday, Christmas, the lining of the moons of Jupiter and it has to be treated like one. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
TSL needs hype and build up, two TSLs in such a short period is just not healthy for anyone. Let the SC2 scene settle down before the next TSL imo. I think twice a year is most optimal. One in spring and one in winter. Once a year would be fine too. Otherwise you become the new GSL where its just tourney on tourney on tourney, and its hard to remember and sherish the moments once they do happen because a new tournament is already happening. | ||
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nekuodah
England2409 Posts
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Vxed
Norway239 Posts
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Inkblood
United States463 Posts
Don’t get me wrong I loved TSL 3, and I can barely wait for the next one! It’s just the rarity of the event that makes it so much sweeter when it’s finally time. Too much TSL might makes it the norm, but when it’s less often it becomes a prize. Even if it does start coming more often I’ll be tuning in, because the TSL would still be awesome. And hey, maybe I’m wrong and it’d turn out better. | ||
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leXus30
United States11 Posts
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
Too many tourney's, too often already. Keep the TSL as a special thing. OSL and MSL only happen 3 times a year, and that's 6 whole tourney's a year. I feel like the few times it happens increases the importance of them. I vote one year wait. | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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DeKk
Poland15 Posts
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Xswordy
United Kingdom425 Posts
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Splunge
Germany925 Posts
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GoDLy MD
United Kingdom258 Posts
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
I think twice a year is a good pace. I really think SC2 e-sports is getting close to saturation and I'd rather TSL remain special and unique. six months between the start of each TSL shouldl achieve that imo. | ||
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nVusPip
United Kingdom260 Posts
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cronican
Canada424 Posts
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Denia1
148 Posts
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anatem
Romania1369 Posts
people keep voting start qualifiers now because they're still jacked up on the most recent games, but they don't get or don't care that the tournament's relevance will suffer from the freshness of the last one, and it will lose a lot of prestige if it occurs too often. one per year might be a bit too much though just because the scene in sc2 is so god damned big and volatile, the TSL needs to be fresh in people's minds. 3/year seems too much because of the cluttering of major events, and the TSL is and most certainly needs to remain a major event. wait a few months, do it twice per year or every 9 months, and prepare the schedule for it depending on what MLG and GSL announce at the start of the year and work from there. | ||
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
I wouldn't complain if the masses got their wish and qualifiers started now, though. | ||
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nepeta
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
Of course we still want TL Opens even if they are not TSL qualifiers. | ||
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Hunterai
Thailand842 Posts
Although I want the TSL to be special, once a year is too long for me to wait Even twice a year would test my patient too much So I will have to say 3 per year :-D | ||
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ZealotKiller
Canada161 Posts
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RoyalCheese
Czech Republic745 Posts
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Striding Strider
United Kingdom787 Posts
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inlagdsil
Canada957 Posts
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Tuk
United Kingdom223 Posts
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
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timtwins
United States49 Posts
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Emon_
3925 Posts
On May 19 2011 02:25 soujiro_ wrote: twice per year one for bw and the oher for sc2 You just gave me E-wood. A broodwar TSL would be so amazing! Anyway - maybe a different kind of tournament? More community oriented stuff. There are a fuckton of tournaments already and having 4-5 TSLs a year would dilute the epicness. Twice a year gets my vote | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On May 19 2011 01:19 Hunterai wrote: I think 3 TSLs a year is a right call. Although I want the TSL to be special, once a year is too long for me to wait Even twice a year would test my patient too much So I will have to say 3 per year :-D I'm sorry, but that is why we must. We must wait for TSL 4, because it's that special to us. For the sake of it's sanctity, we must wait. For the sake of preserving the holy aura of it's presence, we must wait. All truly great things require patience. Whether it be Christmas, or your birthday, the reason why it remains special is because it's rare. Do I want there to be 365 Christmas's in a year? Of course I do! But it would begin to lose it's meaning, it would become another grain of sand in a ever increasing desert of SC2 tournaments. Same goes with TSL. While I want to have another TSL right away, we must not. We don't want TSL to become a GSL, or an MLG. We want it to be THE tournament, THE most hype-inducing tournament known to SC2. So we must wait, because we love it. | ||
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sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
Besides it would let the game and the scene evolve : there are already a lot of tournament and watching the sames players over and over can become borring | ||
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BeefEU
Netherlands260 Posts
On May 19 2011 04:08 Pandain wrote: I'm sorry, but that is why we must. We must wait for TSL 4, because it's that special to us. For the sake of it's sanctity, we must wait. For the sake of preserving the holy aura of it's presence, we must wait. All truly great things require patience. Whether it be Christmas, or your birthday, the reason why it remains special is because it's rare. Do I want there to be 365 Christmas's in a year? Of course I do! But it would begin to lose it's meaning, it would become another grain of sand in a ever increasing desert of SC2 tournaments. Same goes with TSL. While I want to have another TSL right away, we must not. We don't want TSL to become a GSL, or an MLG. We want it to be THE tournament, THE most hype-inducing tournament known to SC2. So we must wait, because we love it. It can't be the most hype-inducing tournament when it's a online tourny except for the finals, so I don't mind having more tourneys..! | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
The qualifiers can start way before it though :D. | ||
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Fliente
Brazil22 Posts
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ilisan
Germany78 Posts
as long as you keep up the quality, coverage, pricemoney and maybe enhance the finals(coveragewise) it will be amazing | ||
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
On May 18 2011 01:57 fAnTaCy wrote: Don't wanna spoil the fun of TSL. once or twice a year is just great, it's how it's been going anyway so don't change it too drastically, so maybe once or twice a year. Wanna keep TSL special +1 | ||
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monx
Canada1400 Posts
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lurked
Canada918 Posts
I'd vote to do it right now, but I want to do something of my summer week ends! please, wait a few more weeks before to start? haha | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
I like 1ce 6 months | ||
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On May 19 2011 06:34 godemperor wrote: 2 per year, 1 in summer and another in winter. I approve cuz it's during breaks!!!! | ||
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sl
Canada239 Posts
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Elbonbunny
Ireland60 Posts
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Mooga
United States575 Posts
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Taj
Denmark1 Post
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Jayrod
1820 Posts
On May 18 2011 01:47 kerpal wrote: SOMEONE VOTED FOR NO MORE TSLs!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Liquid`Tyler voted 268 times | ||
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2904 Posts
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VGhost
United States3613 Posts
The elimination bracket is a Ro32 and will likely stay that way, no? Assuming TL keeps the weekend schedule (which is brilliant) that gives us: 2 weeks for Ro32 (Sat/Sun x4 matches each) 2 weeks for Ro16 (Sat/Sun x2 matches each) 1 week for Ro8 (Sat/Sun x2 matches each) 1 week for Ro4 (Sat/Sun x1 match each) 1 week for Grand Final/3rd place (Sat/Sun x1 match each) This is 7 weeks minimum to run the actual tournament. Assuming that we keep the same format, we have: 16 seeds/invites* 8 qualifier winners 8 qualifiers on points This adds 8 more weeks of qualifiers, assuming they run one a week. (It would be possible to run more than one at a time of course but that's going to screw things up I think.) So the point is, we're talking a minimum of four months to run a TSL. That limits the TSL to a max of three seasons a year (similar to the MSL/OSL). Practically, it limits it to two seasons a year given staffing, sorting invites, scheduling, etc. TSL has been running a little less than once a year so far. I think the optimal idea is to continue the TSL as a "yearly" tournament and in fact make that the official position. I'm not inherently opposed to two seasons a year, though more is just a really bad idea - but I'm in favor of limiting the occurences. * And here's the note. I think that it would make more sense to seed 4, and then invites should be top performers from other tourneys (GSL, MLG IPL, NASL, Dreamhack, etc. depending on which events develop as most prestigious). I mean, 12 invites (or the 13 we now have) seems like a lot, but if you have top 3 GSL invited, top 3 MLG or IPL, top 3 Dreamhack, or whatever, that's completely a legit field. | ||
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socommaster123
United States578 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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Stamper
Germany148 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
Just more game spamming is going to water down the significance. Wait as long as you possibly can. I would recommend a couple patches into HoTS. | ||
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MrthePig
United States84 Posts
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ShinySleepy
Philippines80 Posts
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
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RESTRiCT
Canada123 Posts
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Fraidnot
United States824 Posts
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Xsoild
United States121 Posts
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
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ShotgunMike
Sweden241 Posts
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
More games to the people! | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51470 Posts
Getting the best players to come is with the money incentive, so i agree with 2 maybe 3 a year theres no rush. | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
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Sargaz
Canada7 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
I could see it going twice year. Preferably with a summer season winter season sort of alternation so they feel distinct. Maybe there can be some sort of format difference? Like massive bo3 round robin groups, cut to bo7 top4? This way it feels like two independent special events, not repetitive. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On May 18 2011 02:11 MrMongo wrote: But it does. I never watch the GSL anymore.Can't really understand that. GSL doesn't lose prestige, because it's like.. monthly. | ||
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
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Antha
Germany42 Posts
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NeWeNiyaLord
Norway2474 Posts
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
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krews
United States1308 Posts
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svefnleysi
Iceland623 Posts
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papapanda
Taiwan326 Posts
holding the actually tournament once or twice a year would be great. however we can start qualifiers a few months before | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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xaeiu
432 Posts
On May 19 2011 19:30 krews wrote: 2 a year would be perfect yeah...kinda like dreamhack and i have no one ever heard saying...way too much dreamhack tournaments going on | ||
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Noelani
55 Posts
And also, qualify or GTFO.. the vast majority of the invited players proved that their big names are nothing but hype and failed miserably. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
and anything more often than 2x a year the hype will be smaller (and poor TL staff will have to work their ass off so much, although most wont care about that ) | ||
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rexob
Sweden202 Posts
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FILM
United States663 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
Keeps it elite and precious, ensures it's a BIG event with BIG prizes which again ensures it dominates the scene. It gives you something to look forward to, rather than being just that event you can qualify next month for too if you fail this time. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
On May 19 2011 21:52 Noelani wrote: I can't believe some people would actually like to have fewer TSLs because of some notion of "making it special." If I won a million dollars every day, it would still be awesome each day. You use an example that doesn't prove your point. I guarantee that every million wouldnt be as awesome. I'm pretty sure after 50 or so, you'd go "yeah, that's nice I guess" | ||
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MyNameIsAlex
Greece827 Posts
like TSL winter, TSL spring, TSL Summer/Fall (since this is a bit dead period with vacations etc.). | ||
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myhybris
Sweden16 Posts
On May 19 2011 10:25 VGhost wrote: Thoughts on scheduling: The elimination bracket is a Ro32 and will likely stay that way, no? Assuming TL keeps the weekend schedule (which is brilliant) that gives us: 2 weeks for Ro32 (Sat/Sun x4 matches each) 2 weeks for Ro16 (Sat/Sun x2 matches each) 1 week for Ro8 (Sat/Sun x2 matches each) 1 week for Ro4 (Sat/Sun x1 match each) 1 week for Grand Final/3rd place (Sat/Sun x1 match each) This is 7 weeks minimum to run the actual tournament. Assuming that we keep the same format, we have: 16 seeds/invites* 8 qualifier winners 8 qualifiers on points This adds 8 more weeks of qualifiers, assuming they run one a week. (It would be possible to run more than one at a time of course but that's going to screw things up I think.) So the point is, we're talking a minimum of four months to run a TSL. That limits the TSL to a max of three seasons a year (similar to the MSL/OSL). Practically, it limits it to two seasons a year given staffing, sorting invites, scheduling, etc. TSL has been running a little less than once a year so far. I think the optimal idea is to continue the TSL as a "yearly" tournament and in fact make that the official position. I'm not inherently opposed to two seasons a year, though more is just a really bad idea - but I'm in favor of limiting the occurences. * And here's the note. I think that it would make more sense to seed 4, and then invites should be top performers from other tourneys (GSL, MLG IPL, NASL, Dreamhack, etc. depending on which events develop as most prestigious). I mean, 12 invites (or the 13 we now have) seems like a lot, but if you have top 3 GSL invited, top 3 MLG or IPL, top 3 Dreamhack, or whatever, that's completely a legit field. Couldn't say it better. There is alot of different tournaments starting up all over the place right now and this timeline will allow the players / fans to prepare for it and it will keep its prestige. (thats if the fans can wait that long and not storm the TL hq while waiting | ||
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lintan81
Sweden20 Posts
TSL - EURO TSL - KR Top 4 from each to ----> TSL - Championships live! | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
But what I'd really like to see is a BW TSL again. Anyways, I hate those idiots who vote ''Don't need anymore'' just because they can. -__- | ||
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ichimarugin680
United States182 Posts
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Anomyme
8 Posts
User was banned for this post. | ||
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Coraz
United States252 Posts
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Nuttyguy
United Kingdom1526 Posts
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5ukkub
Poland507 Posts
On May 20 2011 00:30 Anomyme wrote: i votet for no more TSL, because TSL is stupid... koreans just lose because of lag... make it offline or forget it Yeah... So why won't you just organise that one yourself huh? TSL have been and should be mainly for foreigners. If you want to see Koreans, watch GSL. TSL isn't the one who is stupid sir, it is you. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
Now is time for TSTL in the break between the TSL's. Also at people who write that we should have more than 2 a year. TSL should abolish the invite system. Only top 3 of previous TSL should get autoinvite. Rest should fight hard in TLOpens EU,NA,KR for spots and points. | ||
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polysciguy
United States488 Posts
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Zxro
United States61 Posts
-- ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.png) Zxro.131 | ||
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Slurgi
United States118 Posts
I'm scared that too frequent would dilute the experience though, so maybe it would be best to wait a little while? | ||
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nucLeaRTV
Romania822 Posts
Greatest Tournament I've seen :D Over 65k on the stream and so on... | ||
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boyle
United States134 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On May 20 2011 00:30 Anomyme wrote: You don't know what you're talking about: lag was not the issue. The lag favored the Koreans at least as much as it favored the foreigners (some games were played on Korean servers; some on foreign servers), and in the case of presumably the top Korean in the tournament, MC, the series he lost was played in a lag-free environment (both MC and Thorzain were in Europe at the time).i votet for no more TSL, because TSL is stupid... koreans just lose because of lag... make it offline or forget it Lag is just a flimsy excuse for people who don't want to admit that in the Starcraft 2 scene, the gap between foreigners and Koreans is tiny, if not non-existent. | ||
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Anomyme
8 Posts
On May 20 2011 03:10 qrs wrote: You don't know what you're talking about: lag was not the issue. The lag favored the Koreans at least as much as it favored the foreigners (some games were played on Korean servers; some on foreign servers), and in the case of presumably the top Korean in the tournament, MC, the series he lost was played in a lag-free environment (both MC and Thorzain were in Europe at the time). Lag is just a flimsy excuse for people who don't want to admit that in the Starcraft 2 scene, the gap between foreigners and Koreans is tiny, if not non-existent. yeah i know that TSL have splitted the servers you play on. but i know, that even idra said its not fair and unplayable as korean, understand? i want TSL to be the biggest and finest gather of the worlds best players... that's why i criticize it like that, don't get me wrong. but if TSL is only a foreigner tournament, it's different. i thought it's the best tournament made from the western world. | ||
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Techno
1900 Posts
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TheMag
Romania43 Posts
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Ouga
Finland645 Posts
There's been long breaks between TSLs in the past too? Or well, at least 2 & 3. So I don't see need to rush it. | ||
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Greem
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tdynasty
Canada220 Posts
As a Pro Spectator, TSL was amazing, Being a PRO sc2 player needs to be a full time Job! Besides, who isn't hyped about more ThorZain the Champion matches? Or the Insanly Motivated Angry Naniwa Vegeta like Matches! Liquid Nation is so awsome. Once a year is just Silly..... Who the fuck would want to wait 10 months between TSL's. People saying the Hype will go down... Are you Kidding me. All TSL needs to do is bring in new maps each tournament and the Fun will never stop for spectators. Cause to be honest, Crevasse, Tal'Darim, Terminus are fun maps. There is so much Awsome potential for sick series in tournament Games with a Nice Prize Pool. GSL is once a month... TSL should be TWICE a month! | ||
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debbyCYA
Egypt22 Posts
The tsl3 has been one of the most fun to watch tournaments I have gotten a chance to kind of participate in. From the qualifiers, to ro32 upset madness, to the awesome TvT slugfest that was Thorzain vs Kas, and of course the finals. Just everymatch played with such heart, I loved it. Point is I would say make it once a year. Hype it up, get everyone excited, and do it right. And by do it right I mean do it exactly the same and hope it turns out just as good. | ||
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TigerKarl
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Coolhwip
Sweden1381 Posts
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
tsl should not be like nasl or gsl. | ||
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EnWara
United States55 Posts
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Kolvacs
Canada1203 Posts
I would rather have that 1 amazing tournament every year, that gets 100% effort put into it. Then have the same tournament being run 4-5 times a year, not getting enough time to prepare and not have 100% effort because by the 3rd time everyone is tired. | ||
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GMonster
686 Posts
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ThatGuy89
United Kingdom1968 Posts
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NerO
United States2071 Posts
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Lori.
Germany97 Posts
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EdSlyB
Portugal1621 Posts
But. I know that making TSL possible is an HUGE (humoungus?) effort and to make everything so smooth requires many hours of work so I think that TL staff deserves some time to rest and enjoy the credits of the excelent tournament that they gave us. Besides: if we had TSL every month and a half it would surely lose quality and interest. I aprove TSL every 6 months (an year is to looong...!). | ||
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Trobot
United States125 Posts
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Bonham
Canada655 Posts
That said, the TSL3 was the best online tournament ever, in my view, so I'd love to see something similar from the geniuses at Team Liquid. Just maybe on a smaller scale if it's going to be more regular. EDIT: While keeping the main event, of course. | ||
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ToDieFoR
United States52 Posts
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Shoggoth
England75 Posts
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Riotbot
United States87 Posts
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Samhax
1054 Posts
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
On May 20 2011 13:12 red4ce wrote: How can 400 people not want anymore TSL? brood war community ;D | ||
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
2 is fine. 1 every 6months. 4 is interesting since you can have 1 for each season of the year, Spring TSL, Summer TSL, Fall TSL, Winter TSL. you can decorate the hype with seasonal decorations, so much can be done with this that i would even go as far as saying go for it 4 times a year, ;\ | ||
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amatoer
Germany212 Posts
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
Wait a bit and start it :d | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
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Grettin
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Semtext
Germany287 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
I feel 1 a year is a little too spread out, and now is too soon after the epic TSL3. | ||
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appletree
Denmark109 Posts
But I would rather that you waited, than rushing into setting up a half finished / half hearted tournament. | ||
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Antedelerium
United States224 Posts
B) I don't want the TSL to feel like "yet another big tournament" that happens often. GSL is awesome, but it starts to lose its luster after having 6+ a year. C) Why not stick with the traditional once a year? Keeps the hype huge, although we could have more spread out qualifiers | ||
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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MarcH
United Kingdom362 Posts
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NightHawk929
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Monsieur
Canada71 Posts
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GagnarTheUnruly
United States655 Posts
If you guys can get it together every two months or whatever I'd be a very happy nerd. | ||
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Noelani
55 Posts
The majority voted to start it up! | ||
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Cocacooh
Norway1510 Posts
On May 21 2011 07:36 GagnarTheUnruly wrote: Apparently I'm going against the grain here, but I do NOT understand holding back the TSL arbitrarily to once or twice a year. Happening rarely is not what makes it special IMO. I agree, Chill makes it special! | ||
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Sicky
United Kingdom121 Posts
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theKOT
United States167 Posts
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Skaggs
United States57 Posts
GOD the last one was such a disappointment @_@ | ||
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AJMcSpiffy
United States1154 Posts
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Skyeye
United States6 Posts
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galtdunn
United States977 Posts
On May 18 2011 01:46 XsebT wrote: Just whenever you're ready to bring us the show of a life time... once again. If you have everything you need (money and time) to repeat the succes right now, then just go for it imo. So long as you don't compromise with the quality. exactly ^^^ | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
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Cybren
United States206 Posts
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Z-R0E
United States147 Posts
Very few things in StarCraft get me that pumped, that excited. I don't want that to change. I don't want to be checking the calendar going "Oh, they should be announcing TSL this week if they want to start it on time." Whether it's yearly or twice a year or whatever, just keep us on our toes about it. | ||
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Lynda
649 Posts
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Baerinho
Germany257 Posts
Maybe a Winter and Summer TSL | ||
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Harmonious
179 Posts
Also, don't oversaturate the market like the GSL is doing. | ||
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monkh
United Kingdom568 Posts
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
Please do not vulgarize the TSL. Once a year make it special. | ||
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5FDP
Germany44 Posts
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
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NinjaDrone
United States97 Posts
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ReacH.
Scotland333 Posts
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
I believe that if TL listen to it, we might be seeing the TSL lose its charm. | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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minru
United States78 Posts
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terramagra
United States52 Posts
Doesn't mean you can't do TSL Jr. Start your own monthly torurnament, but make it less prestiege-y then the TSL. | ||
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Zeburial
Sweden1126 Posts
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trevabob
United Kingdom350 Posts
SC ESPORTS are flooded with weekly tournaments, GSL, leagues etc. Having another TSL right now (and continuing in that vein) means it is in danger of being swept up into a big cloud of ESPORTS noise and losing that special je ne sais quoi that makes the TSL so special. | ||
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Wihl
Sweden472 Posts
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Bourne
United Kingdom152 Posts
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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Chilling5pr33
Germany518 Posts
2 months of qualify and 2 months tourney would mean 2 months break if its a twice a year event wich would be perfect to me. But i question the comunity has so much influence since its a sponsored event... | ||
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epikAnglory
United States1120 Posts
Twice a year at most. People voting don't need anymore are the group of people that think the tournament is horribly managed, and though that is true to an extent, it gets better everytime its hosted. | ||
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Kamikiri
United States1319 Posts
On May 23 2011 03:02 Maliris wrote: cant believe people are voting dont need anymore :p People are just trolling, they really do want it all day every day. | ||
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laLAlA[uC]
Canada963 Posts
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Cush
United States646 Posts
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
On May 21 2011 07:58 Noelani wrote: You aren't going against the grain. It's just a loud and ignorant minority that doesn't think more is merrier The majority voted to start it up!Sorrym but how the fuck can you tell us ignorant  This is our opinion and this is ok. You can take the olympic for exemple. do you think it would be that special if it were olympic every day ???No sorry | ||
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r3z3nd3
Brazil522 Posts
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blackbrrd
Norway477 Posts
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SYNC_qx
Germany197 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
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Humfluxx
Sweden47 Posts
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Tastrafe
United States9 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
1 BW TSL 1 SC2 TSL And we are all happy ^_^(except the organizers ) | ||
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Delphix
3 Posts
Though, doing a qualifier system, somewhat like a poker tournament, would be interesting.. Open Qualifiers, Random Ro'X'/tourneys, and events strung throughout the year, offering up an invitation to select few people, and the ability to register to each of these 'invitation' events regardless if you were knocked out of any other event. Just my 2 cents, and it's probably been/being done. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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Diderick
Netherlands298 Posts
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Sokalo
United States375 Posts
I would not be opposed to a true team liquid league but keep the TSL something special and let the anticipation build up between events. | ||
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JustinMartin
159 Posts
START QUALIFIERS NOW! | ||
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no2k99
United States8 Posts
AND INVITE F91!! ^^ | ||
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BGrael
Germany229 Posts
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2577 Posts
Also, my wife would leave me. She's very supportive of my SC2 life, but there are limits. Please, for the sake of my marriage, don't overdo the TSL. Edit to add: If the resources and the interest is there, it would be really cool if you did a BW TSL, as some of the other posters are suggesting. I've actually really gotten interested in BW (I was one of those silly people who just thought it was a game when it came out and stopped playing after a couple years) as a result of my interest in SC2, and I'd love to see a foreigner tournament. Given that most of the big foreign names have moved over to SC2 since its release, though, I don't know if the level of talent in the foreign player pool is high enough for a TSL (I'm not trolling foreign BW players, I honestly don't know). | ||
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Lickitung
United States4 Posts
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monkeycid
Sweden44 Posts
Actually, I think that once a year is optimal, but darn do I want me some more TSL action! It is easily the best SC2 tournament I've watched, and I think it should be a special event with as large a prizepool as possible, bringing in the best talent, and having the players focus on the event and truly bring their A game. This might be possible with a twice-a-year setup, however, provided that there's enough money for a competetive prizepool and enough passion and engangement from the staff so that it can be at least as good as the TSL3. In short - 2 times a year tops, and only if it can be made as big and as good as TSL3. But I still want more... | ||
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Freedomringer
United States34 Posts
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Deadpoetic0077
United States63 Posts
which means bigger prize pools which means kick ass players... just my thoughts | ||
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
while $15,000 is obviously great money, it's is not as significant as the $10k in BW since that was by far the most prize money of any tournament that a foreigner had a realistic chance of winning. It was like the superbowl of foregin SC, it drew out the best foreigners, even those who had been inactive like nony or draco. The ladder process was the best, since anyone had an equal opportunity of making the top 48 and ultimately winning. Obbiously, it also drew the largest number of non-korean fans, and was a great way for new people to join and appreciate the community. If the TSL has the most prize money, and is held once a year in SC2, it will hold a similar level of intensity to what it was in BW, especially since it still has the legendary name of TSL. | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
just wait a bit and make more HYPE the guys must cry why it needs so long it must be the BEST | ||
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Spyfire242
United States715 Posts
On May 25 2011 19:38 CoR wrote: who voted for "no need anymore" ? just wait a bit and make more HYPE the guys must cry why it needs so long it must be the BEST 775 bitter BW fans, including myself lol... | ||
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Mopbucket
United States11 Posts
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Ideas
United States8082 Posts
otherwise TSL just crashes TL when im trying to read an LR thread from the previous night's PL games :\ | ||
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Lockindal
United States73 Posts
Or 1/year and an epic 2v2 tournament, because I feel a true team league needs to be created. =P | ||
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ch4ppi
Germany802 Posts
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rizzla
United States45 Posts
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Spec
Taiwan931 Posts
Remember that 12 months apart doesn't mean the TSL season itself is 12 months apart, just the finals/start time. So that in reality it is a lot shorter since the qualifier and playoff process takes at least a month each. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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LoOny
Germany22 Posts
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ishboh
United States954 Posts
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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Nuttyguy
United Kingdom1526 Posts
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