Everything seems good. The spore change, bunker changen archon change all make perfect sense and are hardly worth even arguing about. Changing the cost of ghosts is interesting and the pylon nerf is really nice actually, so well done on that. The gateway/warpgate changes bothers me a little bit. Seems like protoss gets access to much stronger super early rushes, at the cost of having 4 gate rushes hit a little later. Protoss has had zealot build time nerfed before, so we know that 2 gate zealot pressure has been a problem in the past, especially if they're proxy gates. Overall it's probably fine. While protoss can now do some hard-core early rushes they don't ignore the defender's advantage unless they proxy the gates, which is a big risk. So time will tell whether the gate/warp gate changes are good or not

TheRhox

Canada868 Posts

April 27 2011 17:48 GMT

The balance changes are getting better and better

Rinrun

Canada3509 Posts

April 27 2011 17:54 GMT

No-cost bunkers. Now Boxer can't show them to yellow anymore.

Okay, Not a bad patch.

endy

Switzerland8971 Posts

April 27 2011 18:05 GMT

Fixed a bug where players were still able to stack flying units on top of each other.

Thanks god they never did that in BW. Stacked corsairs vs scourges, stacked muta sniping HTs, etc. <3<3

Bunker that are not free anymore is a really good change though.

terrOne

Italy172 Posts

April 27 2011 18:16 GMT

Some changes are good others are bad

Yeah it's kinda..... meh....

Th0R

Canada359 Posts

April 27 2011 18:19 GMT

#10

No more warping units onto their ramp in PvP. I love this patch already. No more 4 gates FTW

McKTenor13

United States1383 Posts

April 27 2011 18:22 GMT

#11

I think it's a step. A couple good changes but I really dont like the protoss changes. Not because I play protoss, but because I dont think it'll fix anything. They need to tweek something else. So i just think it's....meh

Kuzmorgo

Hungary1058 Posts

April 27 2011 18:37 GMT

#12

I think they are very clever. Like they implemented multiple things to nerf WG rush, but i think that is what a PTR is for. They may keep the research time increase or the pylon range decrease or both, depending on the results imho. I myself think the pylon change could really help PvP (and I think its a very clever change!!), cause obviously you will now be able to snipe pylons from the high ground more easily with stalkers. so yeah, i think they did a good job.

pred470r

Bulgaria3265 Posts

April 27 2011 18:45 GMT

#13

I don't play sc2 so I voted meh....

FliCe

Netherlands13 Posts

April 27 2011 19:00 GMT

#14

On April 28 2011 03:05 endy wrote:

Show nested quote +

Thanks god they never did that in BW. Stacked corsairs vs scourges, stacked muta sniping HTs, etc. <3<3

Bunker that are not free anymore is a really good change though.

haha yeah i loved it when a zerg did that, 1 mealstrom + a storm = gg :D
god i miss dark archons

anyways the PTR isnt bad i guess

Cyanocyst

2222 Posts

April 27 2011 19:03 GMT

#15

The Zerg change was pretty underwhelming for a PTR patch so i voted meh.

Though i think all changes are good, just nothing that gets me "excited" as a Zerg.

Char711

United States862 Posts

April 27 2011 19:23 GMT

#16

Not bad but I'm irked by some stuff. Did pylon radius really have to be changed? It's not like anyone was saying, "Man, that power radius on pylons is hella imba!"

I'm interested to see how the gateway/warpgate turns out: I'm just as big a PvP hater as anyone else, but I'm also not sure if this will fully solve the problem. We're really just going to see more colossus wars now (or maybe phoenix play).

I lol'd when I saw the bunker change. It wouldn't be a patch without a bunker change.

A little wary of the ghost change, too. I don't think they're underpowered or too expensive, just underused. I don't expect/want that one to get through.

Spore crawler buff makes total sense since Zerg had way too hard of a time against especially Protoss early air (honestly, Cruncher? Quit it. Mega exploitative.).

Cpadolf

Sweden1199 Posts

April 27 2011 19:27 GMT

#17

Was looking for "interesting" in the poll. Because that's definitely what they are. Some changes that could possibly have huge consequences, but it's hard to know whether they will actually be good or bad.

Deleted User 45971

533 Posts

April 27 2011 19:30 GMT

#18

Other - I don't know or care for it until I can play and watch pros play it.

Lint42

United States17 Posts

April 27 2011 19:41 GMT

#19

On April 28 2011 04:03 Cyanocyst wrote:
The Zerg change was pretty underwhelming for a PTR patch so i voted meh.

Though i think all changes are good, just nothing that gets me "excited" as a Zerg.

agree with this 100%

Nasradime

France83 Posts

April 27 2011 19:44 GMT

#20

"Good job".
Because they obviously watch the problems and listen to solutions proposed, while trying to mix their own ideas (eg pylon decrease) to balance the whole stuff