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BetrayaL
Profile Joined February 2003
Germany250 Posts
August 16 2004 02:12 GMT
#101
On August 16 2004 10:32 CrazyGamei wrote:
Look who does actually Germany have ?

Mondragoon ?
Fishy ?
Breakdown ?
Infinity ?

4 players ? And thats that ?


hexer, breakdown, ogerdaniel, socke, rob, rifter, fenris, cope etc.

but nice try.
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic950 Posts
August 16 2004 02:14 GMT
#102
:D:D:D:D:D:D:
never too old for starcraft :)
CrazyGamei
Profile Joined August 2004
France11 Posts
August 16 2004 02:29 GMT
#103
"Mondragon is crazy good. Ogerdaniel, Socke, Hexer would probably be equal to everyone except draco and bm. And if you think Blackman would own Mondragon ez you are so wrong. Mondragon is almost as good as the korean zergs at zvz and blackmans game is zvt and zvp."

1 - Draco is one of our weakest players in POL-team history , so if u think he is good , u dont have any idea how others play (spawn , wget ,sys , mario , etc etc etc)

2 - Blackman is blackman , u have info f 2 years ago on his z/z. I can bet he probibly rocks now.
blablabla
BetrayaL
Profile Joined February 2003
Germany250 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-16 02:35:56
August 16 2004 02:34 GMT
#104
On August 16 2004 11:29 CrazyGamei wrote:

1 - Draco is one of our weakest players in POL-team history , so if u think he is good , u dont have any idea how others play (spawn , wget ,sys , mario , etc etc etc)



the profile says your are from france, but you use "our" if you talk about poland. looks like you are just another retard without arguments
you are only talking about things that were 2 years ago.
CrazyGamei
Profile Joined August 2004
France11 Posts
August 16 2004 02:42 GMT
#105
" Mondragon is crazy good. Ogerdaniel, Socke, Hexer would probably be equal to everyone except draco and bm. And if you think Blackman would own Mondragon ez you are so wrong. Mondragon is almost as good as the korean zergs at zvz and blackmans game is zvt and zvp."

U have very bad info my friend

1 - Draco is one of THE WEAKEST Pol-team members in history. If u think he is good ... then players like sYs , Spawn , Wiget , Mario , Pako etc. are Gods.

2 - Blackman is gaining skills. 2 years have past and i bet his z/z went up very high. And were not talking about a match of Mondi vs BM but o the terms of skills.

I mean Blackmans ZvP and ZvT is one of the best in the world, and u ant say that about Mondragon sry ;.>
blablabla
CrazyGamei
Profile Joined August 2004
France11 Posts
August 16 2004 02:44 GMT
#106
OMG man i dont have to be French to live in France.
Yes im intersted in Polish SC scene becouse it is the best.
blablabla
CrazyGamei
Profile Joined August 2004
France11 Posts
August 16 2004 02:47 GMT
#107
Anyway look at the facts man :

Poland 7 : 6 Germany
Poland 5 : 3 Germany
Blackman 2 : 1 Fisheye (almost owned Fishy with Terran)
POOL : 38 : 21 % Poland #1

So i bet that you simply can`t admit Germany is damn worse, and it is.
blablabla
CrazyGamei
Profile Joined August 2004
France11 Posts
August 16 2004 02:50 GMT
#108
And so what that was some time ago ?

I mean do u think only German Players Gain skills ?

Polish "high players" overal skill level has grown very high during the last two years, and keeps on growing.

Just look at Raven for example ...
blablabla
BetrayaL
Profile Joined February 2003
Germany250 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-16 03:00:43
August 16 2004 02:59 GMT
#109
we're talking about today, not 2 years ago.

90% you are talking about bm.

and btw, your gods (raven, spawn etc.) lost vs russia 2-5.
poland is one of the best nations for sure, but they are not the only country, that claims to be the strongest nation.
readY_bg
Profile Joined August 2004
Bulgaria168 Posts
August 16 2004 03:00 GMT
#110
CrazyGamei you are funy if you think Poland will beat Germany in real war ( best vs best players ) Blackman- yes he is so good but I dont know if he stil play and he is the only one who can take game vs German player. But I think Mondi will destroy him. anyway Germany is the best non korean team with China.I dont say that Poland are noobs -they are very strong , but not enough like Germany .
tomson
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland641 Posts
August 16 2004 03:20 GMT
#111
If you ask me, if both teams would show up with their dream line-ups consisting of 5-10 players Poland should be victorious. If you would add 2on2s it gets more or less even.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3434 Posts
August 16 2004 03:32 GMT
#112
Poland vs Germany would be great to watch and I have no clue who would win...
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3434 Posts
August 16 2004 03:34 GMT
#113
And it would be the best way to compare both teams ^^
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
August 16 2004 04:02 GMT
#114
Word.
11 years and counting- TL #680
.YouJustGotRapeD
Profile Joined May 2003
United States227 Posts
August 16 2004 05:07 GMT
#115
--- Nuked ---
Kansas City, Missouri :)
.YouJustGotRapeD
Profile Joined May 2003
United States227 Posts
August 16 2004 05:07 GMT
#116
--- Nuked ---
Kansas City, Missouri :)
Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
August 16 2004 06:12 GMT
#117
and hovz, dont forget hovz
To sup with the mighty ones, one must climb the path of daggers.
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
August 16 2004 06:25 GMT
#118
funny guys here o_O
germany china canada and poland are some level i think
in 2on2 germany > all (korea too!!!)
TLT07 ===> *winner* <===TLT08
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 16 2004 07:49 GMT
#119
you just got raped, youre a retard


Poland is just fucking sick.

blackman is sick, draco is sick, sys is sick, tomson is sick, raven is good and spawn is ok.

germany is fucking nasty too with mondi, fisheye, and whoever else of the 10 great players they have fills out their top 5.

Yeah there are a lot of polish people worthlessly spamming their opinions but it is pretty clear to me that these are EASILY the two best nations outside korea.

china/canada are a distant 3rd.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
August 16 2004 09:42 GMT
#120
This old post is unavailable due to an encoding issue. Please contact an admin if you would like this post restored for historical reasons.
aka DTF-ZeRo
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