• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:53
CET 06:53
KST 14:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement4BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains15Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series19
StarCraft 2
General
GSL CK - New online series BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT
Tourneys
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 517 Distant Threat The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3030 users

Strongest BW nation outside of Korea - Page 6

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
BetrayaL
Profile Joined February 2003
Germany250 Posts
August 16 2004 02:12 GMT
#101
On August 16 2004 10:32 CrazyGamei wrote:
Look who does actually Germany have ?

Mondragoon ?
Fishy ?
Breakdown ?
Infinity ?

4 players ? And thats that ?


hexer, breakdown, ogerdaniel, socke, rob, rifter, fenris, cope etc.

but nice try.
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic939 Posts
August 16 2004 02:14 GMT
#102
:D:D:D:D:D:D:
never too old for starcraft :)
CrazyGamei
Profile Joined August 2004
France11 Posts
August 16 2004 02:29 GMT
#103
"Mondragon is crazy good. Ogerdaniel, Socke, Hexer would probably be equal to everyone except draco and bm. And if you think Blackman would own Mondragon ez you are so wrong. Mondragon is almost as good as the korean zergs at zvz and blackmans game is zvt and zvp."

1 - Draco is one of our weakest players in POL-team history , so if u think he is good , u dont have any idea how others play (spawn , wget ,sys , mario , etc etc etc)

2 - Blackman is blackman , u have info f 2 years ago on his z/z. I can bet he probibly rocks now.
blablabla
BetrayaL
Profile Joined February 2003
Germany250 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-16 02:35:56
August 16 2004 02:34 GMT
#104
On August 16 2004 11:29 CrazyGamei wrote:

1 - Draco is one of our weakest players in POL-team history , so if u think he is good , u dont have any idea how others play (spawn , wget ,sys , mario , etc etc etc)



the profile says your are from france, but you use "our" if you talk about poland. looks like you are just another retard without arguments
you are only talking about things that were 2 years ago.
CrazyGamei
Profile Joined August 2004
France11 Posts
August 16 2004 02:42 GMT
#105
" Mondragon is crazy good. Ogerdaniel, Socke, Hexer would probably be equal to everyone except draco and bm. And if you think Blackman would own Mondragon ez you are so wrong. Mondragon is almost as good as the korean zergs at zvz and blackmans game is zvt and zvp."

U have very bad info my friend

1 - Draco is one of THE WEAKEST Pol-team members in history. If u think he is good ... then players like sYs , Spawn , Wiget , Mario , Pako etc. are Gods.

2 - Blackman is gaining skills. 2 years have past and i bet his z/z went up very high. And were not talking about a match of Mondi vs BM but o the terms of skills.

I mean Blackmans ZvP and ZvT is one of the best in the world, and u ant say that about Mondragon sry ;.>
blablabla
CrazyGamei
Profile Joined August 2004
France11 Posts
August 16 2004 02:44 GMT
#106
OMG man i dont have to be French to live in France.
Yes im intersted in Polish SC scene becouse it is the best.
blablabla
CrazyGamei
Profile Joined August 2004
France11 Posts
August 16 2004 02:47 GMT
#107
Anyway look at the facts man :

Poland 7 : 6 Germany
Poland 5 : 3 Germany
Blackman 2 : 1 Fisheye (almost owned Fishy with Terran)
POOL : 38 : 21 % Poland #1

So i bet that you simply can`t admit Germany is damn worse, and it is.
blablabla
CrazyGamei
Profile Joined August 2004
France11 Posts
August 16 2004 02:50 GMT
#108
And so what that was some time ago ?

I mean do u think only German Players Gain skills ?

Polish "high players" overal skill level has grown very high during the last two years, and keeps on growing.

Just look at Raven for example ...
blablabla
BetrayaL
Profile Joined February 2003
Germany250 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-16 03:00:43
August 16 2004 02:59 GMT
#109
we're talking about today, not 2 years ago.

90% you are talking about bm.

and btw, your gods (raven, spawn etc.) lost vs russia 2-5.
poland is one of the best nations for sure, but they are not the only country, that claims to be the strongest nation.
readY_bg
Profile Joined August 2004
Bulgaria168 Posts
August 16 2004 03:00 GMT
#110
CrazyGamei you are funy if you think Poland will beat Germany in real war ( best vs best players ) Blackman- yes he is so good but I dont know if he stil play and he is the only one who can take game vs German player. But I think Mondi will destroy him. anyway Germany is the best non korean team with China.I dont say that Poland are noobs -they are very strong , but not enough like Germany .
tomson
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland641 Posts
August 16 2004 03:20 GMT
#111
If you ask me, if both teams would show up with their dream line-ups consisting of 5-10 players Poland should be victorious. If you would add 2on2s it gets more or less even.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
August 16 2004 03:32 GMT
#112
Poland vs Germany would be great to watch and I have no clue who would win...
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
August 16 2004 03:34 GMT
#113
And it would be the best way to compare both teams ^^
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
August 16 2004 04:02 GMT
#114
Word.
11 years and counting- TL #680
.YouJustGotRapeD
Profile Joined May 2003
United States227 Posts
August 16 2004 05:07 GMT
#115
--- Nuked ---
Kansas City, Missouri :)
.YouJustGotRapeD
Profile Joined May 2003
United States227 Posts
August 16 2004 05:07 GMT
#116
--- Nuked ---
Kansas City, Missouri :)
Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
August 16 2004 06:12 GMT
#117
and hovz, dont forget hovz
To sup with the mighty ones, one must climb the path of daggers.
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
August 16 2004 06:25 GMT
#118
funny guys here o_O
germany china canada and poland are some level i think
in 2on2 germany > all (korea too!!!)
TLT07 ===> *winner* <===TLT08
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
August 16 2004 07:49 GMT
#119
you just got raped, youre a retard


Poland is just fucking sick.

blackman is sick, draco is sick, sys is sick, tomson is sick, raven is good and spawn is ok.

germany is fucking nasty too with mondi, fisheye, and whoever else of the 10 great players they have fills out their top 5.

Yeah there are a lot of polish people worthlessly spamming their opinions but it is pretty clear to me that these are EASILY the two best nations outside korea.

china/canada are a distant 3rd.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
August 16 2004 09:42 GMT
#120
This old post is unavailable due to an encoding issue. Please contact an admin if you would like this post restored for historical reasons.
aka DTF-ZeRo
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 7m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 186
ProTech138
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3973
Mong 176
Leta 62
Shinee 38
ZergMaN 31
Icarus 10
HiyA 10
Britney 1
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K853
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox563
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor134
Other Games
summit1g6856
C9.Mang0296
ViBE2
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 50
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1426
• Rush1398
• Stunt532
Upcoming Events
GSL
2h 7m
Wardi Open
6h 7m
Monday Night Weeklies
11h 7m
WardiTV Team League
1d 6h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 18h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-13
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.