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LuigiNMario
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
September 22 2010 01:53 GMT
#261
On September 17 2010 00:43 Elroi wrote:
God... aren't you Flash fans being a bit pathetic now? No one says he is not a bonjwa. For me it's a little hard to be super exited about his run 1) because he beat my favorit player 2) he is another terran bonjwa in a time when terran is super strong. But stop complaining about guys who don't go crazy over his victories, it's idiotic. Everyone knows he is the best in the world right now. Be happy.


Isn't this exactly why we are complaining? You're just taking the monster's dominance because he is not your fav player, and becaus he is a terran?
When there's Flash there's a way.
ISighZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States270 Posts
September 22 2010 07:22 GMT
#262
On September 21 2010 15:56 nimoraca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 01:25 ISighZ wrote:
Effor is smart. This is the real GG NO RE! Lol.
Anyway yeah.. another good player is leaving NOOOOOOOOOO
BROODWARRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


What other good players are also leaving? And don't tell me it is Nada or July, cause you said good...

Whaa.. Every Progamer is good.. I mean it's not like it's EASY to become a BW progamer. So including Nada, July , there's also the Star members MVP and others. Yes They ARE good. Is there even a progamer that's NOT good?
There is no one to help you unless you help yourself
rasha
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic2 Posts
September 22 2010 13:01 GMT
#263
Flash is Best of the Best
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
September 22 2010 16:57 GMT
#264
Flash, easy pick for #1
Flash hwaiting!
youlijp
Profile Joined February 2009
Brazil112 Posts
September 22 2010 17:14 GMT
#265
EffOrt is no longer a progamer. I hope you can fix it asap. Thanks for the write!
"I hate quotations" - Chang E. I.
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
September 22 2010 18:11 GMT
#266
NaDa was in an MSL Ro8 as recently as 2009 and July was in an OSL Ro16 in 2009 as well. July also won as recently as 2008. They may be past their prime, but these BW legends who are just but a few years removed from when they were gods are still pretty damn good. They don't get much Proleague time because teams want to develop younger players who can only improve. July and NaDa are likely going to either stagnate or slightly worsen over time, but their peak is so bloody high that a little dip from it is still amazing.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
September 23 2010 02:46 GMT
#267
Flash is not even close to bonjwa though i agree he should be first. Free should be third he ripped apart the OSL till Flash even though he looked bad there he still wrecked everyone up till then. Also Leta? Really? Zero deserves it way way more Leta is overrated imo and Zero played way better.
"Duty is heavy as a mountain, death is light as a feather." CJ Entus Fighting! <3 Effort
DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland231 Posts
September 23 2010 12:23 GMT
#268
Sworn, You rox =D
EX CATHEDRA!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
September 23 2010 13:51 GMT
#269
On September 23 2010 11:46 Sworn wrote:
Flash is not even close to bonjwa though i agree he should be first.


You realize that the people who have given all four bonjwas the criteria of bonjwa (the Koreans) are calling Flash Bonjwa? They literally ask him in interviews "How do you feel about being bonjwa?"

So no, you're wrong, he is a bonjwa. Nothing to do with my perceptions or anything, he's just been christened the title in Korea.
Remember Violet.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 23 2010 15:10 GMT
#270
^ Actually the Koreans call him above-bonjwa so yeah
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 18:54:24
September 23 2010 18:54 GMT
#271
On September 22 2010 16:22 ISighZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 15:56 nimoraca wrote:
On September 21 2010 01:25 ISighZ wrote:
Effor is smart. This is the real GG NO RE! Lol.
Anyway yeah.. another good player is leaving NOOOOOOOOOO
BROODWARRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


What other good players are also leaving? And don't tell me it is Nada or July, cause you said good...

Whaa.. Every Progamer is good.. I mean it's not like it's EASY to become a BW progamer. So including Nada, July , there's also the Star members MVP and others. Yes They ARE good. Is there even a progamer that's NOT good?


They are good compared to us, the mere mortals, but they are compared to each other
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 23 2010 23:03 GMT
#272
On September 23 2010 11:46 Sworn wrote:
Flash is not even close to bonjwa though i agree he should be first. Free should be third he ripped apart the OSL till Flash even though he looked bad there he still wrecked everyone up till then. Also Leta? Really? Zero deserves it way way more Leta is overrated imo and Zero played way better.


everyone seems to be in agreement that he is actually beyond the level of bonjwa and is more dominant than any of them ever were so is that what you mean by close to bonjwa or do you actually still think he is far beneath the status of bonjwa in which case that's a really dumb thing to say
RIP Aaliyah
Monkeyshark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
September 23 2010 23:15 GMT
#273
Guys I have a question, didn't flash just finished his high school last year? Is that why he's been dominating for a year now since he have more time to train instead of 7-8 hours of school a day?
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 24 2010 00:37 GMT
#274
Pretty sure they drop out of school to become pro gamers.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
September 24 2010 01:28 GMT
#275
On September 22 2010 16:22 ISighZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 15:56 nimoraca wrote:
On September 21 2010 01:25 ISighZ wrote:
Effor is smart. This is the real GG NO RE! Lol.
Anyway yeah.. another good player is leaving NOOOOOOOOOO
BROODWARRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


What other good players are also leaving? And don't tell me it is Nada or July, cause you said good...

Whaa.. Every Progamer is good.. I mean it's not like it's EASY to become a BW progamer. So including Nada, July , there's also the Star members MVP and others. Yes They ARE good. Is there even a progamer that's NOT good?


But relative to other progamers they suck now (especially July, his last few games were painful)
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Monkeyshark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
September 24 2010 01:36 GMT
#276
On September 24 2010 09:37 GolemMadness wrote:
Pretty sure they drop out of school to become pro gamers.


I did some research and I'm PRETTY PRETTY sure he goes to high school.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129095

I answered my own question, he's still in the 3rd year of high school it seems. I guess the Korean school system is different.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
September 25 2010 13:10 GMT
#277
It looks like this is effort's last PR
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
September 25 2010 19:54 GMT
#278
On September 25 2010 22:10 Jugan wrote:
It looks like this is effort's last PR


He should stay next month also , because nothing has happened this month in BW .
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 25 2010 21:47 GMT
#279
Its the end of the month and less than 300 comments ..
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
kamizushi
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada52 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-25 22:15:13
September 25 2010 22:14 GMT
#280
does anybody know when does the next season start. I'm getting bored
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