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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
September 29 2010 03:22 GMT
#301
holy shit its almost october and theres only 300 posts on the PR o.O

well, thats what happens when offseason+bonjwa+sc2 i guess
boomer hands
deepstyle
Profile Joined September 2010
35 Posts
September 29 2010 17:08 GMT
#302
Fruitseller PR next month?
will TL be integrating SC2 pro's into the PR?
because that would be sick.

cross starcraft power rankings.
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
September 29 2010 20:47 GMT
#303
SC2 would get its own power rank if they were to make one (not that I have any power over that it is just the only reasonable possibility). How would you compare (insert top SC2 player) to (insert top SC1 player) when they are playing different games against different people. That would be like comparing (insert basketball player) to (insert football player), it doesn't matter what you do they just aren't comparable.
deepstyle
Profile Joined September 2010
35 Posts
September 29 2010 20:54 GMT
#304
On September 30 2010 05:47 wswordsmen wrote:
SC2 would get its own power rank if they were to make one (not that I have any power over that it is just the only reasonable possibility). How would you compare (insert top SC2 player) to (insert top SC1 player) when they are playing different games against different people. That would be like comparing (insert basketball player) to (insert football player), it doesn't matter what you do they just aren't comparable.

it would (of course) be relative and up to the writer of said PR. of course that is what the PR is.. the writer's interpretation of who they believe is playing at the highest level.
kamizushi
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada52 Posts
September 29 2010 23:03 GMT
#305
On September 30 2010 05:54 deepstyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2010 05:47 wswordsmen wrote:
SC2 would get its own power rank if they were to make one (not that I have any power over that it is just the only reasonable possibility). How would you compare (insert top SC2 player) to (insert top SC1 player) when they are playing different games against different people. That would be like comparing (insert basketball player) to (insert football player), it doesn't matter what you do they just aren't comparable.

it would (of course) be relative and up to the writer of said PR. of course that is what the PR is.. the writer's interpretation of who they believe is playing at the highest level.

I agree with wswordsmen. You just can't compare how people play 2 different games in the same Ranking. That's common sense. But if someone asked me to do it I would just put players of BW because the control is easier in SC2 (no number limit in control groups). But I think it's pretty obvious they should make another PR for SC2.
Hey
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
September 30 2010 04:31 GMT
#306
haha, remembering the controversy about how waxangel wasn't glowing enough with his praise, i was re-reading a final edit and came across this:
"Yes, Flash is still unquestionably the best player on earth. This kid has utterly exploded since his GSI win over Stork. Between that time and now, Flash has gone 23-3, a stretch of dominance that is unheard of in today's field. He has no weak matchups. His games aren't just victories, but sad, one-sided affairs that leave his opponent laying on the floor in the fetal position, weeping and wondering why they ever picked up a copy of StarCraft." - FakeSteve on Flash (June 2008)
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
champignones
Profile Joined September 2008
Panama160 Posts
September 30 2010 11:55 GMT
#307
haha, remembering the controversy about how waxangel wasn't glowing enough with his praise, i was re-reading a final edit and came across this:


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"Yes, Flash is still unquestionably the best player on earth. This kid has utterly exploded since his GSI win over Stork. Between that time and now, Flash has gone 23-3, a stretch of dominance that is unheard of in today's field. He has no weak matchups. His games aren't just victories, but sad, one-sided affairs that leave his opponent laying on the floor in the fetal position, weeping and wondering why they ever picked up a copy of StarCraft." - FakeSteve on Flash (June 2008)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



And that was in june 2008 here he only had like one tittle , and that PR seems better than this one.
you shouldnt worry if everybody ignore you, you should be worry when they dont anymore.
kamizushi
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada52 Posts
September 30 2010 15:28 GMT
#308
On September 30 2010 20:55 champignones wrote:
Show nested quote +
haha, remembering the controversy about how waxangel wasn't glowing enough with his praise, i was re-reading a final edit and came across this:


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"Yes, Flash is still unquestionably the best player on earth. This kid has utterly exploded since his GSI win over Stork. Between that time and now, Flash has gone 23-3, a stretch of dominance that is unheard of in today's field. He has no weak matchups. His games aren't just victories, but sad, one-sided affairs that leave his opponent laying on the floor in the fetal position, weeping and wondering why they ever picked up a copy of StarCraft." - FakeSteve on Flash (June 2008)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



And that was in june 2008 here he only had like one tittle , and that PR seems better than this one.

you should have heard how he talked of stork just a month before, saying he sucked and all. FakeSteve was very biased. (3 years latter a player that apparently sucked is still in the PR?). I mean the only controversy Waxangel created is "he put Flash number one but he didn't praise him enough".
Hey
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
September 30 2010 15:45 GMT
#309
The controversy with Waxangel's article is that it lacks any sort of fervor. It was just easiest to jump on the Flash one because Flash did make quite a showing.
Remember Violet.
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
October 01 2010 03:53 GMT
#310
Holy crap, Flash is back!
since 98'
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
October 02 2010 20:11 GMT
#311
Can't believe it's a new month already.

Somebody do a GSL power rank for the fun of it.
DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland231 Posts
October 02 2010 21:55 GMT
#312
cbnc: yayba!

GSL sucked so much, IntoTheRainbow is like 7 years past his prime, I turned off live Low Quality Finals after second game, knowing he will loose. In new PR You would have to put Clide first, and be so embarassed for doing so after next GSL, it's just not worth it..
EX CATHEDRA!
DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland231 Posts
October 02 2010 22:02 GMT
#313
and when will the split of teamliquid page between sc:bw and sc2 happen?

I almost missed jd vs flash today cos of so much blubbering in calendar, it's so annoying O.o
EX CATHEDRA!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 03 2010 00:40 GMT
#314
I don't think WCG matters much, but Flash is obviously still the #1. ^__^
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
October 03 2010 04:45 GMT
#315
On September 30 2010 20:55 champignones wrote:
Show nested quote +
haha, remembering the controversy about how waxangel wasn't glowing enough with his praise, i was re-reading a final edit and came across this:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Yes, Flash is still unquestionably the best player on earth. This kid has utterly exploded since his GSI win over Stork. Between that time and now, Flash has gone 23-3, a stretch of dominance that is unheard of in today's field. He has no weak matchups. His games aren't just victories, but sad, one-sided affairs that leave his opponent laying on the floor in the fetal position, weeping and wondering why they ever picked up a copy of StarCraft." - FakeSteve on Flash (June 2008)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



And that was in june 2008 here he only had like one tittle , and that PR seems better than this one.


FakeSteve on Flash (June 2008). Not Waxangel, FakeSteve. Are people too thick to realize this? It's a different writer with a different writing style. Has nothing to do with a personal grudge against flash, get over it.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
bluetrolls
Profile Joined October 2009
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-03 05:31:22
October 03 2010 05:08 GMT
#316
Nobody claims that Waxangel is holding a grudge against Flash. But the man himself admits being a Jaedong fan that doesn't get excited by Flash. I thank him for a solid Power Rank. As a Flash fanboy I would also like to bask in Flash's glory, and I hope even you can admit that the current Power Rank is a letdown in that respect. A number of people have respectfully noted it, I don't understand why do you have a problem with that.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154423
Text by Waxangel


As the TL writing staff assembled to write this report, there was one thing that amazed me. I tried to find someone who wanted write Flash’s victory tribute piece, but I couldn’t find one. Seriously! Maybe all the Flash fanboys are on vacation with KTF in the Philippines, but I couldn’t find any volunteers in time. As a Jaedong fan, I knew it would be unfair to leave this task to anyone but the most committed Flash supporter. There are some very good arguments for Flash being the greatest player of all time, but I don’t want to be the one to stir up that s***storm. Rest assured we’ll find someone to work TeamLiquid’s famed hyperbole mill and cook up a great TLFE for Flash.
DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland231 Posts
October 03 2010 12:10 GMT
#317
Thank You for link!

From "Conditions needed to enter the god line"
golden mouse seems to be piece of cake O_o
EX CATHEDRA!
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
October 03 2010 17:12 GMT
#318
I'm aware that not much has changed, but will there be an October PR any time soon? After WCG finals perhaps?
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
October 03 2010 23:19 GMT
#319
the results of today's matches were quite surprising, I must say.
Writer
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 03 2010 23:30 GMT
#320
Awesome! Flash is now, for the first time, officially the best player in the world. ^__^

Can't believe he is reigning champion in literally all tournaments; WCG, OSL, MSL, PL and WL. God Young Ho FTW!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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