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Power Rank 09/14/2010 - Page 17

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DZhou
Profile Joined November 2008
China14 Posts
October 03 2010 23:30 GMT
#321
Does WCG count for ELO and stuff?
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
October 04 2010 02:24 GMT
#322
WCG korea does which is kind of funny, considering.
Remember Violet.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 04 2010 02:49 GMT
#323
On October 03 2010 13:45 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2010 20:55 champignones wrote:
haha, remembering the controversy about how waxangel wasn't glowing enough with his praise, i was re-reading a final edit and came across this:


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"Yes, Flash is still unquestionably the best player on earth. This kid has utterly exploded since his GSI win over Stork. Between that time and now, Flash has gone 23-3, a stretch of dominance that is unheard of in today's field. He has no weak matchups. His games aren't just victories, but sad, one-sided affairs that leave his opponent laying on the floor in the fetal position, weeping and wondering why they ever picked up a copy of StarCraft." - FakeSteve on Flash (June 2008)
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And that was in june 2008 here he only had like one tittle , and that PR seems better than this one.


FakeSteve on Flash (June 2008). Not Waxangel, FakeSteve. Are people too thick to realize this? It's a different writer with a different writing style. Has nothing to do with a personal grudge against flash, get over it.

I miss FakeSteve. I was hoping he'd come back to PR after he got settled moving across the world. Never happened.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
October 04 2010 16:58 GMT
#324
are there october kespa rankings? will there be?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 04 2010 20:26 GMT
#325
On October 05 2010 01:58 o[twist] wrote:
are there october kespa rankings? will there be?


Probably not. There were only like what 3 koreans who played? (Jaedong/kal/Flash). I think its safe to just wait for next month
When I think of something else, something will go here
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
October 04 2010 21:39 GMT
#326
On October 05 2010 05:26 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 01:58 o[twist] wrote:
are there october kespa rankings? will there be?


Probably not. There were only like what 3 koreans who played? (Jaedong/kal/Flash). I think its safe to just wait for next month


but the october list is for how they perform in september so mb this month
#1 Fantasy Fan!!!!
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 03:39:53
October 05 2010 03:39 GMT
#327
On October 05 2010 06:39 jaiBing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 05:26 blade55555 wrote:
On October 05 2010 01:58 o[twist] wrote:
are there october kespa rankings? will there be?


Probably not. There were only like what 3 koreans who played? (Jaedong/kal/Flash). I think its safe to just wait for next month


but the october list is for how they perform in september so mb this month


Look at the date the last PR is posted, then look at the list of the games played between all the koreans since that PR was posted, and tell me who played meaningful games in that period..
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
October 05 2010 16:06 GMT
#328
So... will there be an October PR or not?
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
October 05 2010 19:08 GMT
#329
On October 05 2010 01:58 o[twist] wrote:
are there october kespa rankings? will there be?

Yes, there's an October ranking out. Nothing important changed.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
October 05 2010 19:18 GMT
#330
So I never liked the Flash is god etc. but I cannot refute it anymore, not after he has saved the life of Kal!
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
October 06 2010 01:16 GMT
#331
Flash currently holds the gold medal in OSL, MSL Proleague, Winner's League, WCG, and Lifeguarding.

If Jaedong ends up switching to SC2 soon I think we can just plaster Flash in all 10 spots and call it a day.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 01:40:17
October 06 2010 01:32 GMT
#332
I can't fully agree with this Pool Rank. Flash and JD are obviously placed correctly, but Kal should be close but no cigar.

Seriously though, I'm glad nothing bad happened after all. Flash is awesome!
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
October 06 2010 18:58 GMT
#333
On October 06 2010 10:16 Hinanawi wrote:
Flash currently holds the gold medal in OSL, MSL Proleague, Winner's League, WCG, and Lifeguarding.

If Jaedong ends up switching to SC2 soon I think we can just plaster Flash in all 10 spots and call it a day.


I think we can anyway. A terran of flash's caliber will not be taken down by a zerg and all protoss just suck. I don't see his reign ending anytime soon tbh.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 06 2010 22:01 GMT
#334
On October 07 2010 03:58 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 10:16 Hinanawi wrote:
Flash currently holds the gold medal in OSL, MSL Proleague, Winner's League, WCG, and Lifeguarding.

If Jaedong ends up switching to SC2 soon I think we can just plaster Flash in all 10 spots and call it a day.


I think we can anyway. A terran of flash's caliber will not be taken down by a zerg and all protoss just suck. I don't see his reign ending anytime soon tbh.


Well guess we'll see then. I have a feeling Jaedong's about to come back stronger then ever :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-07 08:34:27
October 07 2010 08:32 GMT
#335
On October 07 2010 07:01 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 03:58 Elroi wrote:
On October 06 2010 10:16 Hinanawi wrote:
Flash currently holds the gold medal in OSL, MSL Proleague, Winner's League, WCG, and Lifeguarding.

If Jaedong ends up switching to SC2 soon I think we can just plaster Flash in all 10 spots and call it a day.


I think we can anyway. A terran of flash's caliber will not be taken down by a zerg and all protoss just suck. I don't see his reign ending anytime soon tbh.


Well guess we'll see then. I have a feeling Jaedong's about to come back stronger then ever :D


Welp better start hoping Brood War doesn't die because it doesn't look like Jaedong is going to get the chance to beat Flash four consecutive finals in a row.

(there should seriously be a smiley face to word minimum ratio on TL)
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 07 2010 22:35 GMT
#336
On October 07 2010 07:01 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 03:58 Elroi wrote:
On October 06 2010 10:16 Hinanawi wrote:
Flash currently holds the gold medal in OSL, MSL Proleague, Winner's League, WCG, and Lifeguarding.

If Jaedong ends up switching to SC2 soon I think we can just plaster Flash in all 10 spots and call it a day.


I think we can anyway. A terran of flash's caliber will not be taken down by a zerg and all protoss just suck. I don't see his reign ending anytime soon tbh.


Well guess we'll see then. I have a feeling Jaedong's about to come back stronger then ever :D

And I have a feeling he won't. Last season JD was stronger than ever before (dual finals for the first time ^__^) and was in angry-mode looking for revenge after Flash had 3-0'd him the season before. Still Flash was clearly the superior player and won both their encounters. Unless Flash loses his motivation, I seriously think he'll get 2 more golds next season (if there will be a next season).
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
champignones
Profile Joined September 2008
Panama160 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 03:43:54
October 08 2010 03:29 GMT
#337
i think jaedong will become even stronger but at the same time, he has to correct several things, concerning tvz wise, i mean he is the best zerg but i feel he isnt as effort who i believe do whatever takes to take flash down, even thou he retired i think he left in a very convincing fashion as the only recent zerg who could outmatch flash in a BO5. i am not saying effort still is better than flash , cause probably if they play right now , flash would have won, but the way he left, let everyone know he can destroy flash in his own game, something JD havent found YET. at the same time theres also flash motivation, if he become lazy or something like that i feel others will catch up, its really hard to predict, but i believe if its ever a next season flash and JD will dominate again and depending of flash`s performance and motivation , jd could accomplish his 6th tittle, to tie nada as the most accomplished progamer. or perhaps flash do this or perhaps both accomplish this.

Have you realize that JD and flash has the exact same tittles(not in order)
3 OSL
2 MSL
1 WCG
you shouldnt worry if everybody ignore you, you should be worry when they dont anymore.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
October 08 2010 06:02 GMT
#338
On October 08 2010 12:29 champignones wrote:
i think jaedong will become even stronger but at the same time, he has to correct several things, concerning tvz wise, i mean he is the best zerg but i feel he isnt as effort who i believe do whatever takes to take flash down, even thou he retired i think he left in a very convincing fashion as the only recent zerg who could outmatch flash in a BO5. i am not saying effort still is better than flash , cause probably if they play right now , flash would have won, but the way he left, let everyone know he can destroy flash in his own game, something JD havent found YET. at the same time theres also flash motivation, if he become lazy or something like that i feel others will catch up, its really hard to predict, but i believe if its ever a next season flash and JD will dominate again and depending of flash`s performance and motivation , jd could accomplish his 6th tittle, to tie nada as the most accomplished progamer. or perhaps flash do this or perhaps both accomplish this.

Have you realize that JD and flash has the exact same tittles(not in order)
3 OSL
2 MSL
1 WCG

Actually, WCG Korea is the one that counts, so it's more like

Jaedong
- 3 osl
- 2 msl
- 2 wcg

Flash
- 3 osl
- 2 msl
GANDHISAUCE
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 08 2010 07:32 GMT
#339
Except no, since the final in WCG Korea is meaningless, all that matters is getting Top 3. Both of them said they didn't really care about it.

I personally hope they'll win one Starleague each every season and stop when they are at 10 titles, when there's a new hotshot called Holgerius who takes over the scene. ^__^
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
October 08 2010 11:39 GMT
#340
I honestly hope that both Jaedong and Flash never win a title again. It really wouldn't make me happy if the same people keep winning.
Taekbang shall rise again and take a title each. At least I hope so considering that the PL maps look pretty nice for toss.
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