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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
September 20 2010 11:09 GMT
#241
Flash has just become even more powerful.

With Effort's retirement Flash doesnt even have to fear his "July" anymore.

I guess this is it, BW really wont live another year I guess.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
September 20 2010 11:13 GMT
#242
Effort wasn't Flash's July.
Remember Violet.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
September 20 2010 11:24 GMT
#243
On September 20 2010 20:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Effort wasn't Flash's July.


Why not, Effort has a winning record vs imba Flash.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
kamizushi
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada52 Posts
September 20 2010 11:30 GMT
#244
On September 20 2010 20:24 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2010 20:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Effort wasn't Flash's July.


Why not, Effort has a winning record vs imba Flash.

according the TLPD Effort is 6-8 vs Flash.... It's better than most but I wouldn't call this a winning record.
Hey
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
September 20 2010 11:38 GMT
#245
On September 20 2010 20:30 kamizushi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2010 20:24 SuperArc wrote:
On September 20 2010 20:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Effort wasn't Flash's July.


Why not, Effort has a winning record vs imba Flash.

according the TLPD Effort is 6-8 vs Flash.... It's better than most but I wouldn't call this a winning record.


I didnt want to say 2009/2010 Flash, so I called him imba Flash.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
September 20 2010 12:53 GMT
#246
Yup if B-Word Flash started around October 2009 than EffOrt is 5-2 against him during the span. I wonder who will step up to be the #2 Zerg. A revival of Calm? Will ZerO finally have his shot? Does Kwanro go for high tech?
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
September 20 2010 16:13 GMT
#247
On September 20 2010 20:24 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2010 20:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Effort wasn't Flash's July.


Why not, Effort has a winning record vs imba Flash.


They haven't played enough and the caliber of their games doesn't lend itself to the kind of rivalry that oov and July had. Effort has a winning record in Flash's current period of domination but they're not very inspiring wins aside from that one-time lurkerless hive rush deal.
Remember Violet.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
September 20 2010 16:14 GMT
#248
Hehe, Effort quit just because he's scared of running into Flash in a Bo5 again. XD Now he will always be able to say stuff like ''Ya, I had a winning record vs Flash during his peak''. It's a shame that Flash never got the chance to get his revenge.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
ISighZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States270 Posts
September 20 2010 16:25 GMT
#249
Effor is smart. This is the real GG NO RE! Lol.
Anyway yeah.. another good player is leaving NOOOOOOOOOO
BROODWARRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
There is no one to help you unless you help yourself
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
September 20 2010 18:22 GMT
#250
On September 21 2010 01:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2010 20:24 SuperArc wrote:
On September 20 2010 20:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Effort wasn't Flash's July.


Why not, Effort has a winning record vs imba Flash.


They haven't played enough and the caliber of their games doesn't lend itself to the kind of rivalry that oov and July had. Effort has a winning record in Flash's current period of domination but they're not very inspiring wins aside from that one-time lurkerless hive rush deal.


Of course. You are completely right.
Remember that insane TvZ streak Flash had in the beginning of the season?

lol those games dont count at all, all Flash did was to push before mutas, those are not very inspiring wins

If Effort's wins are not so special how come only he was able to do that to Flash and no one else?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
September 20 2010 23:21 GMT
#251
Because he used a build that only works once?

It was a totally good build, don't get me wrong. A clever way to counter Flash's lategame play by getting a huge tech advantage by taking a risk.

Other than that there was the OSL final. Completely legitimate wins, kind of fluky though.
Remember Violet.
nimoraca
Profile Joined February 2007
Serbia84 Posts
September 21 2010 06:56 GMT
#252
On September 21 2010 01:25 ISighZ wrote:
Effor is smart. This is the real GG NO RE! Lol.
Anyway yeah.. another good player is leaving NOOOOOOOOOO
BROODWARRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


What other good players are also leaving? And don't tell me it is Nada or July, cause you said good...
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 13:36:42
September 21 2010 13:17 GMT
#253
On September 21 2010 15:56 nimoraca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 01:25 ISighZ wrote:
Effor is smart. This is the real GG NO RE! Lol.
Anyway yeah.. another good player is leaving NOOOOOOOOOO
BROODWARRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


What other good players are also leaving? And don't tell me it is Nada or July, cause you said good...

How about both then?weren't they good?
You have the power to create your own destiny.
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
September 21 2010 14:06 GMT
#254
On September 21 2010 03:22 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 01:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On September 20 2010 20:24 SuperArc wrote:
On September 20 2010 20:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Effort wasn't Flash's July.


Why not, Effort has a winning record vs imba Flash.


They haven't played enough and the caliber of their games doesn't lend itself to the kind of rivalry that oov and July had. Effort has a winning record in Flash's current period of domination but they're not very inspiring wins aside from that one-time lurkerless hive rush deal.


Of course. You are completely right.
Remember that insane TvZ streak Flash had in the beginning of the season?

lol those games dont count at all, all Flash did was to push before mutas, those are not very inspiring wins

If Effort's wins are not so special how come only he was able to do that to Flash and no one else?


Because he was Flash's practice partner and knew his builds. Effort is/was awesome and I love his games but he's got a few advantages over other players that brings him much closer to a 50/50 vs. Flash than most zergs.
the last wcs commissioner
kamizushi
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada52 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 14:37:20
September 21 2010 14:34 GMT
#255
you know I was thinking it will be hard to fulfil the legend of spring next season isn't? They will have to come with very tossimba maps if they want a toss to win. I think Flash is likely to steal the OSL tittle just like last year but even if he brakes his arm and gets eliminated, Jeadong and Fantasy are Protoss eaters. Good luck to all toss, you will need it.
Hey
khellian
Profile Joined February 2010
Korea (South)922 Posts
September 21 2010 14:41 GMT
#256
On September 21 2010 01:14 Holgerius wrote:
Hehe, Effort quit just because he's scared of running into Flash in a Bo5 again. XD Now he will always be able to say stuff like ''Ya, I had a winning record vs Flash during his peak''. It's a shame that Flash never got the chance to get his revenge.

Yeah, that MUST be why he quit...
nimoraca
Profile Joined February 2007
Serbia84 Posts
September 21 2010 15:07 GMT
#257
On September 21 2010 22:17 BloodDrunK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 15:56 nimoraca wrote:
On September 21 2010 01:25 ISighZ wrote:
Effor is smart. This is the real GG NO RE! Lol.
Anyway yeah.. another good player is leaving NOOOOOOOOOO
BROODWARRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


What other good players are also leaving? And don't tell me it is Nada or July, cause you said good...

How about both then?weren't they good?


Yes, they WERE good. But not any more. It's like saying Garimto is switching to SC2, where in reality he hasn't played a single pro bw game in how many years now.
Other that Effort (who is actually leaving progaming) there are no top players leaving pro bw.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 17:37:25
September 21 2010 17:34 GMT
#258
On September 21 2010 01:14 Holgerius wrote:
Hehe, Effort quit just because he's scared of running into Flash in a Bo5 again. XD Now he will always be able to say stuff like ''Ya, I had a winning record vs Flash during his peak''. It's a shame that Flash never got the chance to get his revenge.



:D
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
September 21 2010 18:48 GMT
#259
On September 22 2010 02:34 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 01:14 Holgerius wrote:
Hehe, Effort quit just because he's scared of running into Flash in a Bo5 again. XD Now he will always be able to say stuff like ''Ya, I had a winning record vs Flash during his peak''. It's a shame that Flash never got the chance to get his revenge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuyDY-K0uUE

:D

I meant a Bo5 obviously.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
September 22 2010 01:18 GMT
#260
On September 22 2010 03:48 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2010 02:34 tree.hugger wrote:
On September 21 2010 01:14 Holgerius wrote:
Hehe, Effort quit just because he's scared of running into Flash in a Bo5 again. XD Now he will always be able to say stuff like ''Ya, I had a winning record vs Flash during his peak''. It's a shame that Flash never got the chance to get his revenge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuyDY-K0uUE

:D

I meant a Bo5 obviously.

Well, I mean, clearly Flash would've gotten wrecked! EffOrt was on a four game winning streak, and was unbeaten in Bo5's against Flash! It's clear!

Other funny stats:
Only three zergs have won their last encounter with (T)Flash.
(Z)EffOrt, (Z)hyvaa, and (Z)Luxury (who doesn't count)

Only five protosses have won their last encounter with Flash.
(P)Snow, (P)M18M, (P)Much, (P)TesteR, and HerO_V
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
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