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love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
September 03 2010 18:28 GMT
#941
So I thought his game against flash was really wtf.... He went all-in muta... then he like didn't commit to the attack and instead ran around taking free hits from the turrets... Which from game theory doesn't ever seem like a good idea. If you're going all in... you better damn well go all-in.
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 18:49:01
September 03 2010 18:44 GMT
#942
He did commit, but it just failed. There was little point to go on either way. You can continue suicide units into Flash's defense, or you can expand like 3 times and hope he doesn't attack for a while.

It was actually a pretty good all-in build, I thought. I suspect everybody in SKT1 had an anti-flash build ready and waiting on their particular set. Flash just seemed to know it was all-in and really turreted up. Against most terrans, the all-in would've worked.
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
September 03 2010 20:20 GMT
#943
I think it would be a good idea for Plexa to wait till the end of this month to write the new PR, because by then we will have seen a lot more games from more players to have a clearer decision on who belongs where
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
September 03 2010 20:30 GMT
#944
On September 04 2010 05:20 blahman3344 wrote:
I think it would be a good idea for Plexa to wait till the end of this month to write the new PR, because by then we will have seen a lot more games from more players to have a clearer decision on who belongs where

But there won't be any more games from more players this month... only Flash and Jaedong have games left to play (and they already played over 30 games each since the beginning of August, which should be plenty to judge from).
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
September 04 2010 01:59 GMT
#945
but the osl finals could decide who gets 1st place
bluetrolls
Profile Joined October 2009
United States139 Posts
September 04 2010 03:18 GMT
#946
On September 04 2010 10:59 BookTwo wrote:
but the osl finals could decide who gets 1st place

In September. In August, Flash is number 1.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
September 04 2010 04:20 GMT
#947
On September 04 2010 12:18 bluetrolls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 10:59 BookTwo wrote:
but the osl finals could decide who gets 1st place

In September. In August, Flash is number 1.

Agreed. Where is the PR btw?
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 04:23:31
September 04 2010 04:22 GMT
#948
I know that Bisu performed like a stink bomb, but I hope he won't be dropped out of PR entirely. My heart can't take this anymore.

On the other hand, I will rage if Fantasy is not PR #3.
Vokasak
Profile Joined July 2010
United States388 Posts
September 04 2010 05:00 GMT
#949
Flash has been a shoe-in at every finals for every starleague for the past three seasons. I don't see how anyone could even think about putting anybody, even JD, above him. It's a disrespect to everything Flash has accomplished. JD is good. He's really good. Really, really good. He's on a level above everybody else except Flash. The problem is that Flash is at an extra level above that.

Give it two or so years, when all the fanboyism has cleared, and people will look back and recognize that this has been the era of Flash.
Practical wisdom is the combination of moral will and moral skill
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
September 04 2010 05:05 GMT
#950
I am not really all that happy that the PR is delayed... PR was supposed to be a monthly matter. But whatever...

On the other hand I would like to point out that Flash just reach double finals for the 3rd time (!) in row (!!!). If that's not insane then I don't know what is?

As far as I remember the only players to ever reach double finals were Nada, Savior and Jaedong this season.

This (coupled with WL and PL) must be the most successful year that any progamer in BW ever had .

Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
September 04 2010 07:42 GMT
#951
On September 04 2010 14:00 Vokasak wrote:
Flash has been a shoe-in at every finals for every starleague for the past three seasons. I don't see how anyone could even think about putting anybody, even JD, above him. It's a disrespect to everything Flash has accomplished. JD is good. He's really good. Really, really good. He's on a level above everybody else except Flash. The problem is that Flash is at an extra level above that.

Give it two or so years, when all the fanboyism has cleared, and people will look back and recognize that this has been the era of Flash.


You can't take things that happened 4-10 months ago into account when making this months (well next months) PR though. If Jaedong wins against Flash in the OSL final, depending on how he does it, you can argue that in the last two months or so Jaedong has outperformed Flash. The year as a whole without a doubt belongs to Flash though.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-04 08:32:27
September 04 2010 08:32 GMT
#952
On September 04 2010 14:00 Vokasak wrote:
Flash has been a shoe-in at every finals for every starleague for the past three seasons. I don't see how anyone could even think about putting anybody, even JD, above him. It's a disrespect to everything Flash has accomplished. JD is good. He's really good. Really, really good. He's on a level above everybody else except Flash. The problem is that Flash is at an extra level above that.

Give it two or so years, when all the fanboyism has cleared, and people will look back and recognize that this has been the era of Flash.


While flash is dominating yes I wouldn't put him an on extra level above Jaedong. For the year yes Flash is by no doubt #1 but Jaedong has been playing amazing for the most part the past couple months.

In a bo5 Jaedong is the only one who can beat flash right now (possibly Stork but I still doubt it). Jaedong almost came back in the MSL this year after being down 2-0 to him and on bad maps (no I am not blaming the maps for Jaedong losing either just saying).

in this up coming OSL I honestly think Jaedong's going to win I just don't see him not winning this one. I could be wrong but I really think Jaedong will beat Flash this time as hopefully he stops doing his 7 hatch into no units build that he's been dying to against stork/flash lately.

Only time will tell while this year by far belongs to Flash I still wouldn't put him a "extra level beyond" Jaedong. If jaedong had gotten 3-0'd this MSL and this up coming OSL I would agree.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
September 04 2010 12:13 GMT
#953
Right now, the only 3 players I'd give a chance against flash in a Bo5 are Effort(he's good at mindgames+cheese), Jaedong, Fantasy, and Stork.
Flash is #1 in my book unless he falls apart in OSL finals. But I really don't see him doing that. Jaedong is more likely to looking at how tired he is.
Truth be told I don't like having Flash at the top. Let this be the last dual Flash finals.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
September 04 2010 13:40 GMT
#954
On September 04 2010 14:05 Lebesgue wrote:
I am not really all that happy that the PR is delayed... PR was supposed to be a monthly matter. But whatever...

On the other hand I would like to point out that Flash just reach double finals for the 3rd time (!) in row (!!!). If that's not insane then I don't know what is?

As far as I remember the only players to ever reach double finals were Nada, Savior and Jaedong this season.

This (coupled with WL and PL) must be the most successful year that any progamer in BW ever had .



Chojja too if memory serves, but he lost both.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
September 04 2010 14:06 GMT
#955
I think it's a bad decision to delay the PR. There should be a PR for September in which Flash is #1, and then whoever wins the OSL gets #1 next month (with everyone else in the same spots).
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
September 04 2010 14:19 GMT
#956
On September 04 2010 23:06 Holgerius wrote:
I think it's a bad decision to delay the PR. There should be a PR for September in which Flash is #1, and then whoever wins the OSL gets #1 next month (with everyone else in the same spots).

But what's the point if you don't really like Flash?
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 04 2010 14:25 GMT
#957
On September 04 2010 23:06 Holgerius wrote:
I think it's a bad decision to delay the PR. There should be a PR for September in which Flash is #1, and then whoever wins the OSL gets #1 next month (with everyone else in the same spots).


I disagree. Is that the only reason you can come up with for making a September power rank? At least delaying until after the 11th promotes longer discussion and makes sense because of the lack of games. If this is the end of proleague and BW I rather the power rank go out in greatness.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
September 04 2010 14:37 GMT
#958
we seriously need a new PR !
and don't wait until Sept 11th, because if JD wins 3-2, it's gonna be a real shitstorm to determine who deserves #1. And I would hate that we use WCG finals to come to a decision.
ॐ
Wilczy
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland17 Posts
September 04 2010 14:50 GMT
#959
If JD wins OSL then just put those two on #1 together. They're dominating the scene. Flash and Jaedong. If JD fails, then there's no problem to put Flash on #1.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
September 04 2010 14:58 GMT
#960
On September 04 2010 23:37 endy wrote:
we seriously need a new PR !
and don't wait until Sept 11th, because if JD wins 3-2, it's gonna be a real shitstorm to determine who deserves #1. And I would hate that we use WCG finals to come to a decision.

Exactly. Both JD and Flash have said that they consider this OSL final to be the most important one in their careers. JD is going prepare as if his life depended on it, because if he doesn't win Flash has pretty much officially won BW. If the BW scene is indeed going to die I wouldn't want the last #1 on the PR to be controversial which it would be whoever is there if JD won. Is Flash going to be #2 based on losing a meaningless series that both players said they didn't prepare for while winning PL and going 1-1 vs JD in Starleague finals? They would be so close it would be impossible to separate them. Controversy can be fun, but it's just pointless to do this IMO.

And if the scene goes on, why would we all of a sudden skip a month (or make a PR based on literally 0 games)? We have plenty of games to decide who's #1 for a September PR (Flash won both PL and MSL vs the only one who could possibly take his place) that should be released now, and then we would have the OSL finals to decide who's #1 in the October PR. Simple and fair. But sure, if you're a Flash anti-fan it's probably really fun to see him getting robbed of a month at the top.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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