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DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland231 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 22:40:04
July 28 2010 22:39 GMT
#921

On July 28 2010 22:45 SimonB wrote:
1. Flash
2. Jaedong
3. Bisu
4. Stork

Like it should.


9. Fantasy
10. Zero

and fuck 5-8
EX CATHEDRA!
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
July 28 2010 22:45 GMT
#922
On July 28 2010 22:45 SimonB wrote:
1. Flash
2. Jaedong
3. Bisu
4. Stork

Like it should.


Wow, it's like you are so close to living in the real world. Only 1 and 2 needs to switch, *of course*.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
July 28 2010 23:17 GMT
#923
On July 29 2010 06:53 n.DieJokes wrote:
On a totally unrelated note Effort is crap terrible and I want him off the pr. Sure he wins some but his game quality is bad

Off the PR may be too much, but he doesn't necessarily belong in top 5. Granted, he has a lot of wins, but he lost two of the most important games this month (playoffs ace match and the first OSL set against a supposedly inferior opponent). As you say, even the games he won haven't been very impressive.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Brokenlamp
Profile Joined June 2009
United States39 Posts
July 28 2010 23:46 GMT
#924
With Winter league included, the pro-league statistics right now should be:

TvZ - 124-110, 62-35 = 56.2%
ZvP - 125-102, 36-29 = 55.1%
PvT - 107-84, 44-48 = 53.4%

Protoss currently lacks that S-class player to rack up PvT wins in something like a Winner's league...but other than that, I'd say this season has been incredibly balanced. Fighting Spirit probably has alot to do with it as well (as one of the more balanced maps in recent memory).
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 29 2010 00:03 GMT
#925
On July 29 2010 08:46 Brokenlamp wrote:
With Winter league included, the pro-league statistics right now should be:

TvZ - 124-110, 62-35 = 56.2%
ZvP - 125-102, 36-29 = 55.1%
PvT - 107-84, 44-48 = 53.4%

Protoss currently lacks that S-class player to rack up PvT wins in something like a Winner's league...but other than that, I'd say this season has been incredibly balanced. Fighting Spirit probably has alot to do with it as well (as one of the more balanced maps in recent memory).

This is the kind of statistic I was thinking about as well, what were the statistics someone posted a while back O_o
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 00:34:20
July 29 2010 00:04 GMT
#926
On July 29 2010 08:17 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 06:53 n.DieJokes wrote:
On a totally unrelated note Effort is crap terrible and I want him off the pr. Sure he wins some but his game quality is bad

Off the PR may be too much, but he doesn't necessarily belong in top 5. Granted, he has a lot of wins, but he lost two of the most important games this month (playoffs ace match and the first OSL set against a supposedly inferior opponent). As you say, even the games he won haven't been very impressive.


Joke's comment was just an example of a generic stupid comment that would make people rage. Effort has been playing very well recently. Anyone can drop a zvz and that game against Fantasy wasn't even an in-game mistake, he just thought the wall wasn't ling tight.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
July 29 2010 03:58 GMT
#927
On July 29 2010 09:04 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 08:17 okum wrote:
On July 29 2010 06:53 n.DieJokes wrote:
On a totally unrelated note Effort is crap terrible and I want him off the pr. Sure he wins some but his game quality is bad

Off the PR may be too much, but he doesn't necessarily belong in top 5. Granted, he has a lot of wins, but he lost two of the most important games this month (playoffs ace match and the first OSL set against a supposedly inferior opponent). As you say, even the games he won haven't been very impressive.


Joke's comment was just an example of a generic stupid comment that would make people rage. Effort has been playing very well recently. Anyone can drop a zvz and that game against Fantasy wasn't even an in-game mistake, he just thought the wall wasn't ling tight.


actually joke's said that to make us rage and achieve 1000 comments






so far this month

FlaSh is 4-2 his losses to light and Effort
Jaedong is 10-2 his losses to Bisu and S2


JD is currently in a 7 game winnig streak too



Writer
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
July 29 2010 05:26 GMT
#928
On July 29 2010 08:17 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 06:53 n.DieJokes wrote:
On a totally unrelated note Effort is crap terrible and I want him off the pr. Sure he wins some but his game quality is bad

Off the PR may be too much, but he doesn't necessarily belong in top 5. Granted, he has a lot of wins, but he lost two of the most important games this month (playoffs ace match and the first OSL set against a supposedly inferior opponent). As you say, even the games he won haven't been very impressive.


The game against Flash was air-tight. Absolutely perfect play, despite Flash's slump he didn't rely on Flash making a mistake.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
July 29 2010 05:57 GMT
#929
On July 29 2010 14:26 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 08:17 okum wrote:
On July 29 2010 06:53 n.DieJokes wrote:
On a totally unrelated note Effort is crap terrible and I want him off the pr. Sure he wins some but his game quality is bad

Off the PR may be too much, but he doesn't necessarily belong in top 5. Granted, he has a lot of wins, but he lost two of the most important games this month (playoffs ace match and the first OSL set against a supposedly inferior opponent). As you say, even the games he won haven't been very impressive.


The game against Flash was air-tight. Absolutely perfect play, despite Flash's slump he didn't rely on Flash making a mistake.

Well, sort of. I think his build was genius but its was pretty gimicky. He basically played FlaSh and grabbed a huge advantage and all credit to him for pulling out the w but it didn't really impress me. A better indicator of his ZvT skill is his game vs Midas which felt underwhelming to me just because Midas played such a crap early to midgame. I think Waxangel put it best in the most recent podcast that Effort is really good when he gets an advantage but he really has to work to get that edge.
On July 29 2010 09:04 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 08:17 okum wrote:
On July 29 2010 06:53 n.DieJokes wrote:
On a totally unrelated note Effort is crap terrible and I want him off the pr. Sure he wins some but his game quality is bad

Off the PR may be too much, but he doesn't necessarily belong in top 5. Granted, he has a lot of wins, but he lost two of the most important games this month (playoffs ace match and the first OSL set against a supposedly inferior opponent). As you say, even the games he won haven't been very impressive.


Joke's comment was just an example of a generic stupid comment that would make people rage. Effort has been playing very well recently. Anyone can drop a zvz and that game against Fantasy wasn't even an in-game mistake, he just thought the wall wasn't ling tight.

I completely count his game against Fantasy against him, I sick of his stupid shenanigans. If he wasn't 100% confident that wall was bad he should have had faith in his straight up ZvT. I can't remember the last time effort beat a really solid Terran with pure standard 3 hatch muta->lurk->deflier (sorry Midas, play better)
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 29 2010 06:35 GMT
#930
Well this is shaping up to be a very competitive ranking this month.. didn't expect that!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
July 29 2010 08:45 GMT
#931
On July 29 2010 12:58 swanized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 09:04 Elroi wrote:
On July 29 2010 08:17 okum wrote:
On July 29 2010 06:53 n.DieJokes wrote:
On a totally unrelated note Effort is crap terrible and I want him off the pr. Sure he wins some but his game quality is bad

Off the PR may be too much, but he doesn't necessarily belong in top 5. Granted, he has a lot of wins, but he lost two of the most important games this month (playoffs ace match and the first OSL set against a supposedly inferior opponent). As you say, even the games he won haven't been very impressive.


Joke's comment was just an example of a generic stupid comment that would make people rage. Effort has been playing very well recently. Anyone can drop a zvz and that game against Fantasy wasn't even an in-game mistake, he just thought the wall wasn't ling tight.


actually joke's said that to make us rage and achieve 1000 comments



Yeah! That's what I wanted to say. Hope no one misunderstood my comment lol.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland231 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 09:20:57
July 29 2010 09:18 GMT
#932
kal, kal!, kal!!, kal!!!

I hate how much entertainment he give loosing -_-
EX CATHEDRA!
DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland231 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 10:21:54
July 29 2010 09:54 GMT
#933
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry that in this thread :>

not only he took one game but last army standing that consist of of 4 zeals,
6 ht's and 2 dragoons against JD 200/200 defiler mode fucking EPIC.
EX CATHEDRA!
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
July 29 2010 12:12 GMT
#934
Sorry Bisu
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
July 29 2010 12:52 GMT
#935
guess bisu isnt 3rd anymore,,,
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
July 29 2010 13:09 GMT
#936
I do not hope calms cheese vs stats will count against him ;(
In the woods, there lurks..
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
July 29 2010 13:13 GMT
#937
On July 29 2010 22:09 Iplaythings wrote:
I do not hope calms cheese vs stats will count against him ;(


It was completely Stats fault though for canceling storm. But yeah, that's a stupid mistake that doesn't say much about his skill level.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
July 29 2010 13:25 GMT
#938
I hope no one gets the idea that Calm should be allowed anywhere near the PR, by the way.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
July 29 2010 15:23 GMT
#939
On July 29 2010 14:57 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 14:26 jalstar wrote:
On July 29 2010 08:17 okum wrote:
On July 29 2010 06:53 n.DieJokes wrote:
On a totally unrelated note Effort is crap terrible and I want him off the pr. Sure he wins some but his game quality is bad

Off the PR may be too much, but he doesn't necessarily belong in top 5. Granted, he has a lot of wins, but he lost two of the most important games this month (playoffs ace match and the first OSL set against a supposedly inferior opponent). As you say, even the games he won haven't been very impressive.


The game against Flash was air-tight. Absolutely perfect play, despite Flash's slump he didn't rely on Flash making a mistake.

Well, sort of. I think his build was genius but its was pretty gimicky. He basically played FlaSh and grabbed a huge advantage and all credit to him for pulling out the w but it didn't really impress me. A better indicator of his ZvT skill is his game vs Midas which felt underwhelming to me just because Midas played such a crap early to midgame. I think Waxangel put it best in the most recent podcast that Effort is really good when he gets an advantage but he really has to work to get that edge.
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 09:04 Elroi wrote:
On July 29 2010 08:17 okum wrote:
On July 29 2010 06:53 n.DieJokes wrote:
On a totally unrelated note Effort is crap terrible and I want him off the pr. Sure he wins some but his game quality is bad

Off the PR may be too much, but he doesn't necessarily belong in top 5. Granted, he has a lot of wins, but he lost two of the most important games this month (playoffs ace match and the first OSL set against a supposedly inferior opponent). As you say, even the games he won haven't been very impressive.


Joke's comment was just an example of a generic stupid comment that would make people rage. Effort has been playing very well recently. Anyone can drop a zvz and that game against Fantasy wasn't even an in-game mistake, he just thought the wall wasn't ling tight.

I completely count his game against Fantasy against him, I sick of his stupid shenanigans. If he wasn't 100% confident that wall was bad he should have had faith in his straight up ZvT. I can't remember the last time effort beat a really solid Terran with pure standard 3 hatch muta->lurk->deflier (sorry Midas, play better)


It's the first game that sent Flash into his slump. That was not that long ago. A long ass 9 base beatdown. Flash lost to Snow in Ace on the same day.
WWJDD??
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
July 29 2010 15:25 GMT
#940
On July 29 2010 22:25 okum wrote:
I hope no one gets the idea that Calm should be allowed anywhere near the PR, by the way.


Even if he puts the beatdown on SKT?
WWJDD??
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