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fallingdream
Romania452 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On July 30 2010 16:40 InFdude wrote: Yeah that article is the universal proof that there is no way you are robbing Jaedong of his ranks .I mean how can you possibly have anything against Jaedong after writing that article in which you say "Sure, I hate Jaedong, but this was something different to hate" .Or "To top it all off, Jaedong was humiliated by Calm in the MSL." . Yes that did happen but humiliated ? You have something like beer gogles. I will call them Jaedong-hate-gogles with which everything Jaedong wins is meaningless and all his defeats are brutal humiliation and a demonstration of sodomy. "There is no doubt in my mind that Jaedong is going to go on and become more successful than Savior in every way, but with that said he is never going to receive the appreciation that Savior gets" Later you go on to say how savior in his prime and bla bla and writing about some polls where that criminal Savior got more love than Jaedong . I will admit in general you did speak good things about Jaedong but they were all truths everyone could already see at that time .Ofc could have just not written that article so I have to give you some credit for that but somewhere near the end you say " As TL's #1 Jaedong anti-fan" And I think TL's #1 Jaedong anti-fan may have taken some biased decisions. TL TR If I write an article saying how someone is good I can bash him till the end of time. Man you're a broken record. You refuse to believe that it's possible that someone could disagree with you on the rankings without being tainted with bias. Get over it. | ||
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InFdude
Bulgaria619 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
On July 30 2010 17:20 TwoToneTerran wrote: Man you're a broken record. You refuse to believe that it's possible that someone could disagree with you on the rankings without being tainted with bias. Get over it. It's not like it's ungrounded though. This PR must have been the most criticized one ever, by far. Only the most hardcore Flash fans found it reasonable (and alot of them found it unreasonable). And I don't think you can compare it to Savior staying at #1 because he had a total of 12 - 8 that month beating Iris, Midas, Nada, Hwasin and Much. Flash didn't even have a wining record against opponents that were no where near as impressive as the ones Svior faced. Flash should have been no where near #1 this month and he certainly doesn't belong there on the next PR too after some shaky losses to Light and Effort. I might be biased (I love Jaedong), but I will never argue for some one that doesn't even have a winning record to be #1 on the PR, atleast not after having played fourteen games that month. You don't get why people call out some one who said about Effort that: "he just keeps using dirty tactics and getting lucky" as being biased?? I like the effort Plexa puts into these rankings he is very nice guy and for the most part his rankings are really good. But he is very unfair towards Jaedong. You know this, every one knows this, but as long as he keeps your favorit player on top of the ranking you're happy. Flash is 9-8 since the finals against JD. In the same time JD has gone 22-5. He has had tougher opponents but then again he has lost to all good players he has been playing this time (except for Kal and maybe Violet). Jaedong has wins over Kal, Sea, Zero, Stats and Baby (pre-slump). | ||
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zmeqt
Bulgaria527 Posts
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
its not a reason to rob jaedong his rightful place and funny how all the broken record comments accusation are coming from kt fans (i'm biased my self i admit ) butbi'd like to hear a reason why flash should be number 1 cause in all the comments its why jaedong should and dont dare use the dual league case which was 3 month ago | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
vs JangBi -- didn't matter as he won the final game and qualified for the MSL. vs sKyHigh (x2) -- didn't matter since SKTT1 won the series anyway. And it was TvT vs sKyHigh. You could say that he took two for the team, earning him extra credit for the PR. vs Hydra -- didn't matter (as above). Besides, anyone loses random games to cheesy zergs once in a while; you can't fault him for that. vs Stork -- irrelevant, as it's Stork. Now add the fact that Fantasy easily advanced in the MSL against a compet... unpredictable opponent, probably will advance in the OSL (despite the minor setback against Stork), and that he HUMILIATED Effort, Hiya and Baby (all recent Flash slayers). This should all be added to his stellar performance in June, of course, combined with the Oovarian, Boxeresque brilliance he demonstrates in all his games. This evidently places Fantasy ahead of Effort and Flash, but what about Jaedong? Well, we saw what happened in the Proleague grand finals last year. Important games are coming up, and this is where Fantasy really starts to deliver. Meanwhile, Jaedong has been showing some signs of weakness recently with his lost game to Kal and of course the dual Proleague loss against SKTT1 that robbed OZ of any playoff chances. Besides, Jaedong has been winning so many games recently that he will have to start losing more, and it will hurt him when it happens in important games. There is no doubt in my mind that Fantasy will clutch it up in upcoming games, while Jaedong's position is more questionable. Even if Jaedong does well in the individual leagues, it is Fantasy who will be playing on the largest stage of progaming (the Proleague grand finals) after defeating STX. Like training matches, Jaedong's games in the MSL and OSL (assuming that he even wins the next ones) can't be used to gauge whether he would perform in the Proleague playoffs because this is just hypothetical, and the PR can't be based on hypotheses and wild speculation. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7816 Posts
 . Sea looking very strong also. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On July 30 2010 20:35 TwoToneTerran wrote: Flash still has to qualify MSL to secure #1 but that seems pretty likely. I think Violet showed us his approach to the series in Game 1. He has no intention of beating Flash. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
 JD really dropped the ball there. If Flash can just spank Violet then I wouldn't mind seeing him as #1 yet another month. | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
I still think JD can still be argued as number 1 :D 19-5 since may :p which is pretty baller with all his losses coming from good players (with the exception of s2 >:| ). Besides... its not like he's eliminated from the OSL or anything :p just lost because he was cocky, and Sea proved he is the number 2 (or 3) terran Besides... we saw what happens when JD and Sea play standard, after JD won in proleague which is Sea's most comfortable environment. And finally (and someone is gonna tear me down for this) Who has Flash really played and beat these last two months besides Zero? Check it out O.o I mean... 1 loss in the OSL from overconfidence is gonna put Flash ahead? >.> | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
On July 30 2010 20:50 Yxes2211 wrote: Lol look at all the KT's XD I still think JD can still be argued as number 1 :D 19-5 since may :p which is pretty baller with all his losses coming from good players (with the exception of s2 >:| ). Besides... its not like he's eliminated from the OSL or anything :p just lost because he was cocky, and Sea proved he is the number 2 (or 3) terran Besides... we saw what happens when JD and Sea play standard, after JD won in proleague which is Sea's most comfortable environment. And finally (and someone is gonna tear me down for this) Who has Flash really played and beat these last two months besides Zero? Check it out O.o I mean... 1 loss in the OSL from overconfidence is gonna put Flash ahead? >.> It's more about Flash not really doing much to lose his spot (if he wins against Violet he will have won all of his Ro16 games), and no one else being solid enough to take it from him than him doing anything remarkable though. | ||
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