EPTOn July 23 2010 12:59 tree.hugger wrote:
Anyppi is really clearly the best player of these last three months. The kid just doesn't lose.
Anyppi is really clearly the best player of these last three months. The kid just doesn't lose. lol totally :p
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On July 23 2010 08:10 Elroi wrote: Go back to the battle rapports and hype threads TLers as well as Korean pros thought that JD was the favorit to beat Flash when they met in May, even on Terran favored maps. So Flash wasn't as untouchable as you make it look like (even though he was ofc inhumanly good  ). I'm well aware of the fact that he wasn't untouchable. In fact, if you take a trip back in time, you'll see that I argued heavily against the people who were insisting that Flash had "surpassed bonjwa" (which was obviously bullshit -- he hasn't made bonjwa yet). The reason why so many people thought JD would win is because JD had won every bo5 encounter with Flash up until that point. Up until then, the Flash-Jaedong rivalry had taken the bizarre turn that Flash would win if it was bo3 and JD would win if it was bo5. Nevertheless, Flash was the stronger player in May. Edit: Just because I know that some fanboy out there is going to get butt hurt, I'll say this very clearly: past results should always influence PR, but the further back in time, the less they matter. May is starting to get pretty far in the rear view mirror and it's starting to get to the point where Flash needs to offer up proof of his skill. He'll have chances to do that -- soon. Hold thy horses. Keep thy dogs leashed. Muzzle thine mouths. The time where the #1 will be decided shall come soon. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On July 23 2010 12:59 tree.hugger wrote: Anyppi is really clearly the best player of these last three months. The kid just doesn't lose. I don't like that guy. He could have at least added a tag to his name. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On July 23 2010 11:21 Tempest[OEC] wrote: Are people really factoring in results from over two months ago? I mean c'mon people. It was tough to give Flash #1 this past month (Plexa has balls, Ill give him that), but now we're just robbing Jaedong of a well-deserved #1 spot. Even though the sample games are small but Junes and Julys games show that Jaedong has posted better results. The sample games are small only for Flash because his team felt it was necessary to withheld him from many PL games. Jaedong is still 9-2 this month and has 2 MSL matches against Kal (which he will surely win) and 1 OSL game. The same if for flash, so even if we assume both players will win all 3 games, Flash is still only 6-2 and JD is 12-2. The records not only speak for themselves, but Jaedong has won against better competition and has only one bad loss. Flash was crushed by both Effort and Light. In the end, Flash should NOT get another free month of leeway. We have enough games from the last two months to judge who is currently the better player, and that player is Jaedong. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Jesus christ edit -- to clarify I'm disgusted at this notion of yours that Jaedong has automatically secure the #1 place despite neither him nor Flash finishing their games for this month. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On July 23 2010 13:58 TwoToneTerran wrote: Rofl, JAEDONG WILL SURELY WIN Jesus christ ? | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On July 23 2010 13:58 TwoToneTerran wrote: Rofl, JAEDONG WILL SURELY WIN Jesus christ edit -- to clarify I'm disgusted at this notion of yours that Jaedong has automatically secure the #1 place despite neither him nor Flash finishing their games for this month. Uh, of course if JD drops MSL or OSL he should not be #1. I never suggested such a thing and if you actually read my post you would see that if both players advance, Jaedong is quite clearly the player more deserving. edit: I even said I think Flash will win his games in my post and yet you automatically mark me as a Jaedong fanboy. Does it keep you up at night of the mere thought that maybe, just maybe, Flash is not currently the best player? | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
I've dealt with Flash not being the best player for 2 years, I can handle people asserting he isn't for one month. The post was dumb though. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On July 23 2010 14:47 TwoToneTerran wrote: You literally just said Jaedong will surely win his games. On July 23 2010 13:52 setzer wrote: ... so even if we assume both players will win all 3 games... | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
(which he will surely win) Man that seems really familiar? | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On July 23 2010 14:47 TwoToneTerran wrote: You literally just said Jaedong will surely win his games, and that once that happens he's the guaranteed best player because he'll have a percentage wise better record. I don't give a shit what you're a fanboy of, the post was just ridiculous. It wasn't just "If they both advance" -- that'd be fine, you said Jaedong definitely will and once he does he's #1. There's no ifs in that conclusion, you're set in your ways. I've dealt with Flash not being the best player for 2 years, I can handle people asserting he isn't for one month. The post was dumb though. This vitriolic behavior is completely unneeded. You don't have to lash out at anyone who disagrees with you and label their post as "dumb," even though you completely misread my part of saying I think Flash will easily win his games too. The post was only ridiculous to you because I think JD deserves #1 over Flash (if they both win their games). And YES I would be "set in my ways" if JD finished 12-2 and Flash 6-2. There is NO reasonable argument for putting Flash above JD if that happens. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
also, 12-2 and 6-2, sounds like Jaedong just got to play in proleague more? And yeah there would be a reasonable argument, that's what I'm saying, even if you disagree and think it should be purely statistical. Like I said, if Jaedong plays like complete garbage and still wins, and Flash plays like a masterclass player and still wins, then there is reasonable debate. Or even if Jaedong plays alright and Flash does what Plexa expects him to -- show that he is the Flash we've come to know over this past year. There's plenty of reasons that aren't yours and the lack of brevity in your assumptions is like, well I once said I make it a habit to bash my face into any brick wall I meet. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On July 22 2010 20:47 TwoToneTerran wrote: you might want to stop at a month and a half, super arc. Not 2 to 3. I realized already some months ago that SuperArc's claims make much more sense when you divide them in half. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On July 23 2010 21:38 okum wrote: I realized already some months ago that SuperArc's claims make much more sense when you divide them in half. I take that as a compliment.  | ||
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Tianx
United States1196 Posts
On July 23 2010 22 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 23 2010 22 end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 23 2010 22 end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 23 2010 22 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:36 SuperArc wrote: I take that as a compliment. Considering how often people correctly call you out as one of the worst posters on this site, being told there's the smallest grain truth in all your drivel must be the most lavish of praise. User was warned for this post | ||
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
On July 23 2010 21:38 okum wrote: I realized already some months ago that SuperArc's claims make much more sense when you divide them in half. makes sense so thats why i didnt feel a thing back there | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
On July 23 2010 22:41 Tianx wrote: Considering how often people correctly call you out as one of the worst posters on this site, being told there's the smallest grain truth in all your drivel must be the most lavish of praise. Whoa, relax there; that was pretty uncalled for. SuperArc is at least respectful (and imo his posting is getting better), there's no reason why you shouldn't be. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On July 23 2010 14:57 TwoToneTerran wrote: (which he will surely win) Man that seems really familiar? That was only said about the series against kal, so um... ? | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On July 23 2010 11:21 Tempest[OEC] wrote: Are people really factoring in results from over two months ago? I mean c'mon people. It was tough to give Flash #1 this past month (Plexa has balls, Ill give him that), but now we're just robbing Jaedong of a well-deserved #1 spot. Even though the sample games are small but Junes and Julys games show that Jaedong has posted better results. Hold on a second. For new readers, we're not arguing that because of games 3 months ago any player should be #1 or #2.... To clarify: The debate started with a statement that Jaedong should be #1 because he's been playing better lately, and someone said that he's been playing better than flash for 3 months. So we started a discussion about that. Feel free to post your oppinion but stop assuming things without knowing where the discussion started. | ||
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