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shalafi
394 Posts
On June 06 2010 20:36 p14c wrote: He was so close to 3-0 Effort...damn!  3-0 Effort, 3-0 Jaedong that would have been quite an achievement.. That's not true. As said both by Jaedong and Flash, the MSL finals would have been different if Flash won the OSL. It would be true if MSL finals were before OSL finals (since a single game would've decided getting two 3-0). | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On June 07 2010 02:50 shalafi wrote: That's not true. As said both by Jaedong and Flash, the MSL finals would have been different if Flash won the OSL. It would be true if MSL finals were before OSL finals (since a single game would've decided getting two 3-0). It's been discussed before. Superarc tends to agree with you but it's a load of crap. Flash came close, you can't deny it. Do you really believe that if Flash had not moved out his units in game 3 that way and sealed the game, he would have played so much worse vs jaedong? He would have used the same strategies and Jaedong would have too. The results would most likely be the same. 3-0 in one and 2-0 into loss in another is very close. | ||
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
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WWJDD
India342 Posts
This will be his last hurrah. Before Blizzard shuts down programing forever or JD will lose 5 games in a row for the first time and then call it quits. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On June 07 2010 03:39 o[twist] wrote: ok ok i'll wait a little while before complaining but seriously with only a few games played only jaedong, baby, and fantasy haven't lost yet, and kal in particular is 1-3 kal is 3-1? and just qualified for the MSL? I'd say he's performing well. | ||
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p14c
Vatican City State431 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + He just beat Effort in Proleague with mech of course  | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5587 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On June 07 2010 18:14 Elroi wrote: Common, saying that Flash was close to winning 3-0 3-0 is like saying that Best was close to beating Julyzerg in that OSL finals. I mean if he would have scouted that all-in in the first game the entire series would have been different. Flash almost won both leagues which is imba gosu ofc. But saying that he almost won both league 3-0 3-0 is... childish? Even if he didn't fall into that trap in game 3, how can you be sure he would have won? I think he would, but what I think about it doesn't matter. If you get 3-0 in one SL and 2-0 in another you're as close to 3-0 3-0 as you can get. I don't understand why people argue about this. How can you get closer? Childish or not. Hey I wish flash would have 3-0'd both leagues, he was close of doing so. And then get a reply: No he was never close. just doesn't add up. fact is, Flash made both finals and he was close to 3-0ing both. but he didn't. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Flash has lost another ace match, and again in his most dominant matchup!!! I am really starting to think that Flash has a burnout. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On May 28 2010 15:44 Vegetarian Wolf wrote: Last words for the fans? -I’m sorry that I lost the OSL, and couldn’t repay the support of the fans. But nothing can stop me, I hope no one worries. Even if all other players fall down, Flash will still be standing up right here. | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On June 07 2010 21:00 SuperArc wrote: OH MY GOD!! Flash has lost another ace match, and again in his most dominant matchup!!! I am really starting to think that Flash has a burnout. That's not true. He was 14CCed again and this time couldn't catch up. It gets really tough against lesser players once they start gambling with risky builds because that's the only way they can beat you. Flash played a great ace match, but it wasn't enough. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 07 2010 21 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 07 2010 21 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:24 Fenrax wrote: That's not true. He was 14CCed again and this time couldn't catch up. It gets really tough against lesser players once they start gambling with risky builds because that's the only way they can beat you. Flash played a great ace match, but it wasn't enough. Assuming you're waaaaay better than your opponent, cathing up to 14cc isn't that bad. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On June 07 2010 21:24 Fenrax wrote: That's not true. He was 14CCed again and this time couldn't catch up. It gets really tough against lesser players once they start gambling with risky builds because that's the only way they can beat you. Flash played a great ace match, but it wasn't enough. That might be true, but four months ago Flash would have still crushed Ruby. Terrans like I said improved their TvT a lot, like zergs did when JD was raping everyone left and right. | ||
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okum
France5777 Posts
On June 07 2010 21:35 Shikyo wrote: Assuming you're waaaaay better than your opponent, cathing up to 14cc isn't that bad. It is, if the opponent plays a great game (all credit to Ruby). | ||
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POWEROUTAGE
Singapore884 Posts
On June 07 2010 21:37 okum wrote: It is, if the opponent plays a great game (all credit to Ruby). This. Agreed, Ruby played an incredible game. It was like as if another player was playing instead, such was the contrast between his performance in the game as compared to the previous set against FlaSh. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 07 2010 21:36 SuperArc wrote: That might be true, but four months ago Flash would have still crushed Ruby. Terrans like I said improved their TvT a lot, like zergs did when JD was raping everyone left and right. At first I thought you were trolling, but apparently you're ready to herald the downfall of Flash, which is just silly. This is the state of BW today, last summer and fall, Jaedong looked unstoppable, but only for a season or two. This winter and spring, it's been Flash's turn, but reasonably expecting him to continue putting up the results he put up is a little insane. This isn't Flash getting any worse, or Jaedong getting any worse, and it's not necessarily anyone else getting that much better. BW is a battle of mind games just as much as it's a battle of apm and mechanics. In BW today, eventually you're going to get figured out to a degree. *** I told the Flash-bonjwa crowd to calm down, and the same is true with the ridiculous "Flash-slumping?!?" idea that's come out recently. TL can have frightening mood-swings sometimes. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On June 08 2010 03:42 tree.hugger wrote: At first I thought you were trolling, but apparently you're ready to herald the downfall of Flash, which is just silly. This is the state of BW today, last summer and fall, Jaedong looked unstoppable, but only for a season or two. This winter and spring, it's been Flash's turn, but reasonably expecting him to continue putting up the results he put up is a little insane. This isn't Flash getting any worse, or Jaedong getting any worse, and it's not necessarily anyone else getting that much better. BW is a battle of mind games just as much as it's a battle of apm and mechanics. In BW today, eventually you're going to get figured out to a degree. *** I told the Flash-bonjwa crowd to calm down, and the same is true with the ridiculous "Flash-slumping?!?" idea that's come out recently. TL can have frightening mood-swings sometimes. How am I ready to herald the downfall of Flash by saying that terrans improved their TvTs which is true? | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5587 Posts
On June 08 2010 03:42 tree.hugger wrote: At first I thought you were trolling, but apparently you're ready to herald the downfall of Flash, which is just silly. This is the state of BW today, last summer and fall, Jaedong looked unstoppable, but only for a season or two. This winter and spring, it's been Flash's turn, but reasonably expecting him to continue putting up the results he put up is a little insane. This isn't Flash getting any worse, or Jaedong getting any worse, and it's not necessarily anyone else getting that much better. BW is a battle of mind games just as much as it's a battle of apm and mechanics. In BW today, eventually you're going to get figured out to a degree. *** I told the Flash-bonjwa crowd to calm down, and the same is true with the ridiculous "Flash-slumping?!?" idea that's come out recently. TL can have frightening mood-swings sometimes. It's not a frightening mood swing imo. The guy has almost won every single game he has played for months ofc people are going to go into wtf-mode when he loses repetedly in proleague. Even if it is completely natural for BW, it is huge. The coming weeks will be important: can he brake this mini-slump? | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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