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o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
May 06 2010 14:32 GMT
#161
lol mvp and great: two excellent PR choices
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 06 2010 17:08 GMT
#162
I don't see how Calm deserves the spot from great more than great himself.

Both should have been left out of the PR together with MVP.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
May 06 2010 18:13 GMT
#163
On May 06 2010 23:17 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 22:53 ]343[ wrote:
On May 06 2010 22:25 pvzvt wrote:
i think if u switch great with calm on the pr no one will say a thing
go for it


switch great for "imperfect micro on silly map"


Is it really that hard to position a unit in a certain location?
The location doesn't change.

Its like blaming Andromeda for bisus loss.

But Andromeda was to blame! If it weren't so Zerg-favored, Bisu would definitely have remembered to hold position.
May the BeSt man win.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 06 2010 18:25 GMT
#164
On May 07 2010 03:13 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 23:17 StylishVODs wrote:
On May 06 2010 22:53 ]343[ wrote:
On May 06 2010 22:25 pvzvt wrote:
i think if u switch great with calm on the pr no one will say a thing
go for it


switch great for "imperfect micro on silly map"


Is it really that hard to position a unit in a certain location?
The location doesn't change.

Its like blaming Andromeda for bisus loss.

But Andromeda was to blame! If it weren't so Zerg-favored, Bisu would definitely have remembered to hold position.


true dat
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
May 06 2010 19:15 GMT
#165
Cool to see free on the power rank.

MVP beat Stork Best and Jangbi right? Just found it cool to mention some of the best PvTers getting owned by a woonjin terran.

Also, for Hiya's entry theres a typo: "flare" -> flair
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
Eternal Obilivion
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada4 Posts
May 06 2010 20:44 GMT
#166
How come EffOrt is not on the list? Well, I guess he will have to destroy Kal in the semi to prove him the ZvP king. Again, EffOrt is got solid mechanics,however lack creativity. this kid can really kick some butt when he is rolling.
Take a nap now, you will be dreaming. Study for exams now, you will be accomplishing your dreams.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
May 06 2010 20:58 GMT
#167
On May 07 2010 05:44 Eternal Obilivion wrote:
How come EffOrt is not on the list? Well, I guess he will have to destroy Kal in the semi to prove him the ZvP king. Again, EffOrt is got solid mechanics,however lack creativity. this kid can really kick some butt when he is rolling.


i certainly hope so. two TvZ finals for flash, ahaahaha.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-06 22:37:01
May 06 2010 22:34 GMT
#168
Really? Midas at 4? What, he played like 4 games last month. Wtf? Really? Over all those other guys? I just gotta say something because I think there is some heavy bias and favourtism in that decision. But w/e.

Edit: Never mind, he has been doing okay
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 06 2010 23:03 GMT
#169
On May 07 2010 07:34 lone_hydra wrote:
Really? Midas at 4? What, he played like 4 games last month. Wtf? Really? Over all those other guys? I just gotta say something because I think there is some heavy bias and favourtism in that decision. But w/e.

Edit: Never mind, he has been doing okay


Midas actually has been doing quite well though in usual time 4th spot would be too high. However, time are not usual. Everyone except for Flash, Jaedong and Kal has been sacking lately.

Seeing MVP there hurts me but I gues it was impact of him beating baby who got really hyped-up after he beat Jaedong and taking 1 game of Flash in their quarter final bo5. How did it end we all know by now.

But what actually bothers me is Sea at 5th spot. If that's not bias then I don't know what is...
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
May 06 2010 23:12 GMT
#170
On May 07 2010 08:03 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 07:34 lone_hydra wrote:
Really? Midas at 4? What, he played like 4 games last month. Wtf? Really? Over all those other guys? I just gotta say something because I think there is some heavy bias and favourtism in that decision. But w/e.

Edit: Never mind, he has been doing okay


But what actually bothers me is Sea at 5th spot. If that's not bias then I don't know what is...


Yeah Sea has entered the "we already know this guy can't play individuals for his life so we'll just give him a free (in more ways than one) pass on that whereas for every other good player it still matters".

I mean for a guy who didn't even play that well in PL this month and got knocked out of his only league, #5 is really hard to understand.
DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland236 Posts
May 07 2010 00:47 GMT
#171
PR shouldn't be such a rollcaster imho.
It could be avoided by not making so important how far sb is in individual by luck.
EX CATHEDRA!
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
May 07 2010 01:55 GMT
#172
On May 07 2010 09:47 DracoVolantus wrote:
PR shouldn't be such a rollcaster imho.
It could be avoided by not making so important how far sb is in individual by luck.


PR would be less of a roller coaster if fewer gamers lost games randomly.

Like two years ago it was Flash-Jaedong-Bisu-Stork (rearrange as needed) plus some assortment of fantasy, BeSt, Jangbi, Luxury, etc. for three whole months or something. So different periods get different results.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 02:59:40
May 07 2010 02:58 GMT
#173
On May 07 2010 05:44 Eternal Obilivion wrote:
How come EffOrt is not on the list? Well, I guess he will have to destroy Kal in the semi to prove him the ZvP king. Again, EffOrt is got solid mechanics,however lack creativity. this kid can really kick some butt when he is rolling.


I'm not sure it's fair the say that EffOrt doesn't have creativity, by the way. He's not Boxer, but he switches up a lot of little subtle things about his game all the time, and uses his zerglings in ZvZ like nobody else.

See him using burrow against Light, and using non-stop drops against SangHo.

But two players I can guarentee will be on next month's PR; (Z)EffOrt, and (T)fantasy . Both have been much much much improved lately.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
May 07 2010 04:08 GMT
#174
I think ForGG deserves a spot on your list.

He's been playing reasonably well in Proleague, got to a Ro8 matchup with Kal, the #3 player, and took him to 3 sets.

Certainly considering the seemingly random jumble at 4-10, ForGG is right up there.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 07 2010 04:38 GMT
#175
On May 07 2010 13:08 Random_0 wrote:
I think ForGG deserves a spot on your list.

He's been playing reasonably well in Proleague, got to a Ro8 matchup with Kal, the #3 player, and took him to 3 sets.

Certainly considering the seemingly random jumble at 4-10, ForGG is right up there.


I personally think Forgg has much to prove. He needs to keep winning in the proleague to get even cbnc. A round of 8 appearance doesn't guarantee a spot. Otherwise we would have 16 potential candidates.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
May 07 2010 05:25 GMT
#176
On May 07 2010 10:55 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 09:47 DracoVolantus wrote:
PR shouldn't be such a rollcaster imho.
It could be avoided by not making so important how far sb is in individual by luck.


PR would be less of a roller coaster if fewer gamers lost games randomly.

Like two years ago it was Flash-Jaedong-Bisu-Stork (rearrange as needed) plus some assortment of fantasy, BeSt, Jangbi, Luxury, etc. for three whole months or something. So different periods get different results.


that's circular reasoning.

i think this month's was needlessly disruptive.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
May 07 2010 07:26 GMT
#177
its good to see jaedong back at #2
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
May 07 2010 07:48 GMT
#178
Effort and Calm will be in the next PR. Jaedong will drop a bit after his loss to Calm.

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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 07 2010 08:39 GMT
#179
I'm really exited to watch effort's continued comeback. He was such an amazing ZvT player.
The more good players to challange Flash the better, even though he's not close at the moment.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 07 2010 09:06 GMT
#180
On May 07 2010 17:39 StylishVODs wrote:
I'm really exited to watch effort's continued comeback. He was such an amazing ZvT player.
The more good players to challange Flash the better, even though he's not close at the moment.


Yeah, Effort used to be so good that Flash trained with Effort to prepare for the MSL finals.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
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