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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
 This is my favourite thread lol! I must say Flash's TvP records of recent time is like nothing we've ever seen. As if 23-2, 92% winratio wasn't enough, thats not the most remarkable about this. If you look at the players he faced, there are almost only games played vs the better PvT players of recent times. The list consists of almost only players like Kal, Movie, Stork, Best, free, pure and snow. Thats really incredible. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
On May 08 2010 18:13 SuperArc wrote: Plexa, HOW can you say Hiya is a robot?! Maybe he read Plexas PR and felt he had to prove himself  | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Lee Jae Dong, the most dominant bo5 player ever is not a super favourite against the epic bo5 choker Midas? | ||
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Lazerbeems
151 Posts
Sure Midas won tons of games recently, but none of them weren't done through fantastic play. Plexa's power rank description of him is mostly correct. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Last game, failed rush while letting 4, FOUR, scvs gather in main before using them to mine. Even I never let 4 scvs stack up in the early game when rushing... And I'm just a random A- iccup user... really dissapointed in midas play today =( Jaedong looks really beastly now, I sooo want flash vs jaedong to produce some awesome games in the possible finals. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
On May 08 2010 20:07 StylishVODs wrote: Wow, midas played aweful. I mean really aweful, not just "not good enough" like pure vs flash. + Show Spoiler + Last game, failed rush while letting 4, FOUR, scvs gather in main before using them to mine. Even I never let 4 scvs stack up in the early game when rushing... And I'm just a random A- iccup user... really dissapointed in midas play today =( Jaedong looks really beastly now, I sooo want flash vs jaedong to produce some awesome games in the possible finals. At the point with the four SCVs I think he xas already mentally too shaken up to play at his real level though. Even though I love JD, I felt so bad for Midas, hope he won't go on a slump now. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On May 08 2010 20:00 Lazerbeems wrote: Because people are stupid fanboys, like yourself when it comes to CJ players, and try to put their hero on a pedestal and pump up their achievements. Midas was one of the best terrans of the past but he's completely in the past like Nada or July. Sure Midas won tons of games recently, but none of them weren't done through fantastic play. Plexa's power rank description of him is mostly correct. Yeah, I am a fanboy but I would never put a CJ player as a slight underdog against Flash since thats just crazy. BTW I wonder whats worse for Flash? Kal to get TvP finals and then practice TvZ for a week to face Jaedong while Jaedong has way more time to. Or Effort to get TvZ finals and practice against zerg, but on the other hand give Jaedong at least three games to study his TvZ? | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
). I did agree that JD was the favourite, mostly because of how strong he is historically in Bo5's, but in order to become a super favourite (the guy you would be willing to bet your house on) he should've shown dominance and consistency in the months before. He didn't. But ya, JD is seemingly coming out of his ''slump'' now and I think he has a good chance of taking down Flash in the finals. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
This time will be different hehe! | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On May 08 2010 22:11 Holgerius wrote: JD got knocked out of OSL by Baby, dropped games to T's like Darkelf and Frogg, and had a 46% winrate vs T in the 15 games he played after the MSL finals vs Flash. Flash has been having a more than 80% winrate in all his MU's since October last year. They are not comparable at the moment (although JD is showing signs of going into rape mode again ). I did agree that JD was the favourite, mostly because of how strong he is historically in Bo5's, but in order to become a super favourite (the guy you would be willing to bet your house on) he should've shown dominance and consistency in the months before. He didn't. But ya, JD is seemingly coming out of his ''slump'' now and I think he has a good chance of taking down Flash in the finals. Unless Jaedong doesn't drop a single game till the final Flash is obviously the favourite to win the final though. As much as I love JD Flash has been a monster for more than half a year now and the maps favour him a lot too. But if JD wins his record of four gold medals in four SL seasons in a row would be as crazy as Flash's back to back dual finals. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On May 08 2010 22:31 Holgerius wrote: Who is gonna be #1 on the PR if Flash wins the OSL and gets his Golden Mouse but loses to JD in the MSL final again (with both of them winning their games in PL)? Would Silver+Gold (for the second time in a row) >>> Gold and head to head victory like the last time? Both of them would be making history. If that were to happen again I officially petition that we will have no #3 once again. They both would show close to perfect play to achieve that. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
LeeSsang FTW! | ||
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L0thar
987 Posts
Protoss - Kal, Pure, Free Zerg - Effort, Calm, Jaedong Terran - Flash Despite people screaming and crying how terribly are terran imbalanced, how are maps horrible for any non-terran players, how are we gonna see double TvT finals this season etc, we are in the same situation like last season. Only terran who got at least to semifinals is Flash. Where are the terran dominance doomsayers now? | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On May 08 2010 22:31 Holgerius wrote: Who is gonna be #1 on the PR if Flash wins the OSL and gets his Golden Mouse but loses to JD in the MSL final again (with both of them winning their games in PL)? Would Silver+Gold (for the second time in a row) >>> Gold and head to head victory like the last time? Both of them would be making history. Flash obviously :/ The level of consistance he's been showing with 80+% winratio over more than 100 games and getting to dual back to back SL finals while being called "God Young-Ho" by the koreans cannot be overwelmed by a single win in a Bo5. If Jaedong was in both leagues and won vs Flash in both finals then I'd be fine with it, but he's not because he's been losing far too many games to even be considered for #1 when flash is playing like he does. Flash is the one who's been breaking all these records lately and shown level of play that takes dominance to another level, not Jaedong. Flash is the one floating on 2420+ ELO, 3600+ kespa, and the momentum of winning everything everywhere right now. One win in a Bo5 isn't enough. And lets not get ahead of ourselves praising jaedong for beating midas. Midas played really bad. But, once again, jaedong will be the player with the more practice time and he's really strong in Bo5 mindgames so there will surely be a fight. As for the question Dual back to back SL finals > 2 MSL titles in a row? well thats obviously dual back to back SL finals since its never happened before and probably never will again. And hasn't yet lol. Maybe I sound alot flash bias, but I'm really a jaedong fan aswell. Im just looking at the facts and judging by it. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On May 08 2010 23:17 StylishVODs wrote: Flash obviously :/ The level of consistance he's been showing with 80+% winratio over more than 100 games and getting to dual back to back SL finals while being called "God Young-Ho" by the koreans cannot be overwelmed by a single win in a Bo5. If Jaedong was in both leagues and won vs Flash in both finals then I'd be fine with it, but he's not because he's been losing far too many games to even be considered for #1 when flash is playing like he does. Flash is the one who's been breaking all these records lately and shown level of play that takes dominance to another level, not Jaedong. Flash is the one floating on 2420+ ELO, 3600+ kespa, and the momentum of winning everything everywhere right now. One win in a Bo5 isn't enough. And lets not get ahead of ourselves praising jaedong for beating midas. Midas played really bad. But, once again, jaedong will be the player with the more practice time and he's really strong in Bo5 mindgames so there will surely be a fight. As for the question Dual back to back SL finals > 2 MSL titles in a row? well thats obviously dual back to back SL finals since its never happened before and probably never will again. And hasn't yet lol. Maybe I sound alot flash bias, but I'm really a jaedong fan aswell. Im just looking at the facts and judging by it. It's not just 2 MSL titles in a row, it's FOUR titles in a row and a sixth altogether to boot. But unless Flash loses the OSL finals/barely wins it and loses horribly against Jaedong I think Flash #1 is not arguable. Thanks to Flash's dominance it's not easy to notice. But Jaedong is breaking records too (his ZvP one e.g.). And yes Midas played bad in the third game, but the 2nd was just Jaedong completely countering Midas. It was Flash-esque dominance play. | ||
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