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On May 04 2010 04:02 Zeridian wrote:
usually, I don't care about the PR.
But LOL, I just remembered how long it took bisu to fall off the PR, even when he was sucking bad.
Simple note: people who make PRs are ultra subjective. If movie gets up there he is still "unrefined". If pure wins, he still sucks. If shine wins, god help us.
SHINE WILL NEVER WIN.
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I'm glad Stork isn't on here. He's been playing like complete crap.
And jesus, will Bisu ever even make CBNC again?
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In his current state I dont think he'll make the PR ever again. :/
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Baa?21242 Posts
lol @ all the people clamoring for Snow - guys, a few proleague games don't cut it. PR is usually heavily based on individual leagues.
Also Kal will demolish Effort and Flash and you doubters will all rage because obviously it will be a fluke win, and I will prepare to drink fanboy tears >:O
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
I agree with this power rank~
Kal is pretty boss.
Also Midas is cute.
Looking forward to Jaedong v Flash.
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What type of poem is that? ^ Sounds like one anyway.
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On May 04 2010 06:32 o[twist] wrote:
whoa. i'm reading this again and great? really? great is the second-best zerg playing right now? does anybody actually believe that?
I wouldn't put him at second best, no; but you can make the argument, I think. Here's how I evaluate second-best Zerg over the last month:
1) Jaedong is clearly #1. If Starcraft was in a good place, Jaedong wouldn't be playing well enough for #2 overall - but nobody's playing that well. Overall the closest is probably Midas - which makes Jaedong #2 since he's clearly favored there (and has, you know, won a game). If Jaedong is #2 overall, then he's Zerg #1 (even if I might take Calm > Jaedong in a best-of right now - and that's a very shaky "might").
2) Contenders for #2: EffOrt, Calm, ZerO, Kwanro, great.
3) EffOrt, Calm, ZerO, and Kwanro have an early edge because of being known ace- and starleague-caliber players, even if Calm's the only one with a medal.
4) Kwanro loses out immediately: he got knocked out of both leagues and barely has a winning record this month.
5) ZerO has an impressive-looking record: but apart from his 3-0 of his OSL group (in which Calm is the most impressive win) it's actually average - and he got totally trashed by EffOrt. No.
6) EffOrt's record is the weakest of the remaining three: he's played ZvZ and vs go.go. Here's how it breaks down: 2-2 in Proleague (all ZvZ), 3-2 vs Shine, 3-2 vs go.go, 2-0 vs ZerO. Except for the match against ZerO, that's fairly unimpressive - and ZerO is known as a mediocre ZvZer. So EffOrt's record, once examined, has very little going for it. The only redeeming factor is his matchup vs Kal, where he could conceivably advance. While knocking a plausible OSL Finalist off the list is a little weird, EffOrt just hasn't shown convincing play lately.
7) If not EffOrt, then you have to pick Calm or great. Calm's had a lot more games over the month, it took tiebreakers to knock him out of the OSL and he's winning the head-to-head currently. To me, that makes Calm #2 Zerg for the month.
8) But on the other hand, if you wanted to argue for great, you could mention: Calm did get knocked out of the OSL, great actually has a solid Proleague record, and great's MSL road (Kal, HiyA, Movie) has arguably been harder than Calm's (free, Pure, fantasy).
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On May 04 2010 08:51 adelarge wrote:
I'm just going to quote this, because I also feel Flash is not being praised enough in the PR description. Not that it is some horrible mistake, Flash is praised (rightfully!) almost everywhere these days...
Good PR overall, I would only put Sea lower and I'm not sure what to do with great, but that's it.
Wow, can we stick to arguing ranks and not whether "insufficient praise" is given to the #1 player?
Sometimes you guys make me embarrassed to be a flash fan
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how is it even possible to say flash is running low on gas; he is fucking playing at about a 90% winrate
at first I thought midas was too high but after #3 this PR is basically a crapshoot so w/e
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On May 04 2010 08:51 adelarge wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2010 02:30 StylishVODs wrote:- Flash had a 12 game winstreak this month.
- A dominating 80%+ troughout the month.
- New highest ever ELO record.
- Kespa ranks showed highest rank ever.
- Now have 70%+ in all matchups all-time.
I'm just going to quote this, because I also feel Flash is not being praised enough in the PR description. Not that it is some horrible mistake, Flash is praised (rightfully!) almost everywhere these days... Good PR overall, I would only put Sea lower and I'm not sure what to do with great, but that's it.
I agree with these guys, when I first came to teamliquid and discovered power rankings I went through the whole thing to see who dominated when and read some of the brief summaries to get a picture of what was happening at that time. I feel that if someone down the road read this month's rankings they would feel like Flash somehow declined in April, at least thats the impression I got from reading your report. I think adding what StylishVod's posted near the end or at the top of what you have written for Flash would help clear things up.
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Question for the ranker: Who are these guys ><
Crazy state of the power rank. GJ. crazy/
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On May 04 2010 12:58 nodule wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2010 08:51 adelarge wrote:
I'm just going to quote this, because I also feel Flash is not being praised enough in the PR description. Not that it is some horrible mistake, Flash is praised (rightfully!) almost everywhere these days...
Good PR overall, I would only put Sea lower and I'm not sure what to do with great, but that's it. Wow, can we stick to arguing ranks and not whether "insufficient praise" is given to the #1 player? Sometimes you guys make me embarrassed to be a flash fan
You focus too much on the word "praise". Lets put it this way;
The description of Flash is misleading, wouldn't you rather that the description of the players performance this month was accurate?
Maybe you only care about the ranks but the writing is really important to some and it also takes alot more of plexas time and effort.
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Flash should learn from Fantasy how to use Spider mines. In his loss against Pure, the oonly reason why he stayed for so long was because of his mines. Then Flash will be unstoppable.
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On May 04 2010 12:58 nodule wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2010 08:51 adelarge wrote:
I'm just going to quote this, because I also feel Flash is not being praised enough in the PR description. Not that it is some horrible mistake, Flash is praised (rightfully!) almost everywhere these days...
Good PR overall, I would only put Sea lower and I'm not sure what to do with great, but that's it. Wow, can we stick to arguing ranks and not whether "insufficient praise" is given to the #1 player? Sometimes you guys make me embarrassed to be a flash fan
I wonder what makes you feel entitled to tell other people what they should or should not discuss. Nobody forces you to participate in debate about writings or prohibits you from discussing ranking. You are not alone here.
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I would still like to argue stork and leta did better than hiya and mvp. Hiya wins some and loses some, like stork and mvp only has osl (or was it msl). MVP is still a woojing terran in the proleague, not very good, so I don't know why MVP is up there but leta isn't.
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Can't wait to see how many "omg Flash's mine placement is soooooo sick!" posts there will be from now on in LR threads.
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Flash running out of gas ? I don't think so, his games may look a little more shaky but you have to take into consideration that if you're dominating the scene for such a long time like Flash does right now EVERYONE OUT THERE WANTS TO FUCKING GET YOU!
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Flash description is bad. It's like he is not a Bonjwa! If he will read this, he will go 12-0 next month. Otherwise it will be only 11-1.
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Well there is the possibility that Flash might drop one league when faced with PL OSL and MSL but if so, it's this month and not april.
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Starting tomorrow Flash's worst week ever will begin.
Either he will be completed worn out or he sacks one league.
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