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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On May 30 2010 09:05 o[twist] wrote: why does nobody want to talk about why Baby should be #4? we have pages and pages of debate over #2 and nobody wants to debate the apparent tossup for #4? nobody cares because anytime jaedong stands to lose a single spot on the pr all hell breaks loose | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On May 30 2010 11:47 JonathanJohnson wrote: Effort #1 Flash #2 Jaedong #3 First of all this is a power rank not an ELO recap. As I have heard some of the admins describe it, this ranking is more weighted towards the relative change in the players performance as well as big events and other high interest games then raw performance. If so, coming from a team whose star has been discredited and whose team cast into ignominy ,coming back from a 0-2 deficit against one of the (if not the) best players in the world, playing on unfavorable maps and in the statistically most imbalanced and unfair match-up, and winning the most prestigious starleague for the first time in the players career, would almost have to be enough to catapult any player to the number 1 spot, even if that player was not the most technically skilled. I am not an effort fan, just trying to throw out a semi-unbiased opinion. LOL WUT? Post count + post content => troll? | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
Momentum Rank gogo | ||
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okum
France5779 Posts
No, Jerk Rank! | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Look at Snow and this is not even mindless fanboyism. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2349 Posts
On May 30 2010 14:13 SuperArc wrote: Ever wanted to see PvT in perfection? Look at Snow and this is not even mindless fanboyism. We'll see very soon. Snow will clash against Fantasy, who is a real nightmare for any Protoss. This is a real test for him, as hard as his win against Flash (no blind fanboyism here :D). Fantasy is the type of agresive Terran, who will turn all small oponent's mistakes into a catastophe. If Snow pass this test, I think he could be another true terran killer. | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On May 30 2010 14:13 SuperArc wrote: Ever wanted to see PvT in perfection? Look at Snow and this is not even mindless fanboyism. You're a bit quick to call it "perfection" imho. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On May 30 2010 20:16 Mooncat wrote: You're a bit quick to call it "perfection" imho. Of course perfection doesn't exist in SC, but I've watched all of his PvTs. But when I look at how many protoss struggle vs terran even if they were able to fully abuse 12nex and then there is Snow who always goes gateway first and -almost- literally crush his terran opponents I feel like I see a combination of Bisu's micro and Stork's decision making. Hell, Snow currently even has the highest PvT Elo. | ||
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JonathanJohnson
17 Posts
Actually if you look back at some of the old power ranks, thats not too far off the bat. Although I guess many people would prefer a Size_of_Fan_Club Rank these days | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On May 30 2010 23:00 TwoToneTerran wrote: Are you insane? The old rankings were even less prone to changing. Savior staying over Bisu despite losing, Nada staying over Anytime despite losing, etc etc. They valued the content of the games rather than the pure statistical value moreso then than now. ? | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Watch his games from this most-recent OSL. Then watch Nada’s. Then come back here and tell me, with a straight face, that Nada played better. <i>Hint: he didn’t.</i> Same difference, past ranks weren't dictated entirely by who won from a purely statistical standpoint. Same as nowadays. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On May 30 2010 08:52 vnlegend wrote: Do you even know what the word adapt means? We got a Flash revisionist historian here. Explain to me then. How did Effort adapt better than jaedong? How can you even compare the games? The argument was Effort adapted better than jaedong. Go ahead... | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On May 30 2010 23:30 TwoToneTerran wrote: Effort 9 scouted 14CC and ling rushed him. That's adapting moreso than Jaedong because his strategy worked, I suppose. Yeah, so thats one game. Effort scouted 14CC and chose a ling allin rush. Jaedong scouted the same and did a hydra all in push. Effort managed to win because flash's buildings were placed bad, something that flash fixed in his game vs Jaedong, and Jaedongs all in ALMOST worked aswell. It was really close. So thats one game, can you really compare the two players from that game and tell Effort is better at adapting than Jaedong? No you can't and thats what I'm trying to say. | ||
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JonathanJohnson
17 Posts
On May 30 2010 23:00 TwoToneTerran wrote: Are you insane? The old rankings were even less prone to changing. Savior staying over Bisu despite losing, Nada staying over Anytime despite losing, etc etc. They valued the content of the games rather than the pure statistical value moreso then than now. I like how you criticize people and then get your facts wrong, genius bro. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Though probably a troll. I mean, 3 posts and horrible posts. I should probably just let it be. | ||
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JonathanJohnson
17 Posts
On May 30 2010 23:47 TwoToneTerran wrote: Point stands, you're still wrong, and know even less about old rankings than lil' mistake making ol' me. Though probably a troll. I mean, 3 posts and horrible posts. I should probably just let it be. Yea I agree, especially after you completely failed to address them | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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JonathanJohnson
17 Posts
On May 31 2010 00:13 TwoToneTerran wrote: Haha I can't wait for you to get banned. heres some quotes for you: On June 13 2009 03:43 Chill wrote: To everyone in general: You realize the Power Rank is subjective, right? Stop treating it like an objective list. That means post your opinions and defend them. Question other's opinions. But please stop acting like there's one answer that we all need to agree on. On June 13 2009 05:49 JWD wrote: That makes total sense, and it gets at a really simple point about my PR philosophy: the rank should be based on both "who is better right now (i.e. who would win an ideal Bo5)" and "who was most impressive over the last month". Even if Bisu may still be a slight favorite in a hypothetical Bo5, Effort has earned his #1 spot by simply posting better results recently. Now perhaps you actually see where this argument comes from yes? | ||
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