On May 27 2010 06:47 Mooncat wrote:
Please do not misunderstand this post. I'm not saying either one of them is the better player. + Show Spoiler +

although I obviously think it's Flash

what.

Mooncat

Germany1228 Posts

May 26 2010 23:47 GMT

#722

On May 27 2010 08:35 captainwafflos wrote:

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what.

Oh... Considering EffOrt is involved in this discussion too, I should probably clarify this. Jaedong and Flash are both better players than EffOrt, but between Jaedong and Flash it can't really be decided who's the "better" player overall imo.

Mortality

United States4790 Posts

May 27 2010 00:09 GMT

#723

What's with this plexa hate over Effort not being mentioned in the last PR? Anyone who claims to have foreseen Effort being a top player again even just two months ago is absolutely full of shit and it's hard to recognize a player as having returned to PR worthy form after playing so bad for so long.

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

May 27 2010 06:13 GMT

#724

I haven't caught up with all the comments, but leaving effort off of the PR last month was 100% justified. Need I play you the night of horrific regames that occurred? Effort did not look anywhere near as good as he does now back then. People need to remember that this is a MONTHLY ranking, not a weekly ranking

jpak

United States5045 Posts

May 27 2010 23:46 GMT

#725

Looking forward to the June power rank. This MSL finals will be HUGE!!

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

May 28 2010 01:32 GMT

#726

I'm looking forward to it as well, for once we haven't had a month of people failing!!!!

tree.hugger

Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts

May 28 2010 03:16 GMT

#727

On May 28 2010 10:32 Plexa wrote:
I'm looking forward to it as well, for once we haven't had a month of people failing!!!!

It's true, it feels like the last few months have been a handful of players performing consistently, and then the remainder of the PR spots are just flavor of the month types who we know from prior experience aren't there to stay.

nodule

Canada931 Posts

May 28 2010 05:58 GMT

#728

On May 28 2010 10:32 Plexa wrote:
I'm looking forward to it as well, for once we haven't had a month of people failing!!!!

Save for Leta in the MSL Prelims...

Mortality

United States4790 Posts

May 28 2010 13:18 GMT

#729

Plexa might mean not to include Leta. When I posted my thoughts on rankings a few pages back, I thought Leta should be around 9 or 10, the bottom of the ranking. There are a number of people just off the ranking who also had strong performances and I could easily see whoever is in the 9-10 range being replaced by one of those.

SuperArc

Austria7781 Posts

May 28 2010 15:31 GMT

#730

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=127971&currentpage=2

This blog makes me wonder if JD gets #1 even if he defeats Flash in the MSL.

And Effort will most likely end up below Kal.

jalstar

United States8198 Posts

May 28 2010 15:40 GMT

#731

On May 29 2010 00:31 SuperArc wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=127971&currentpage=2

This blog makes me wonder if JD gets #1 even if he defeats Flash in the MSL.

And Effort will most likely end up below Kal.

Effort below Flash is fine and expected, I don't know if even you think Effort is better than Flash. Below Kal? Effort dominated Kal in that semi-final, it was very clear who the better player was.

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

May 28 2010 15:43 GMT

#732

If Jaedong plays like he has been doing lately and defeats Flash he would probably edge the #1 position off him. If he 5 pools Flash 3 times.... different story.

StylishVODs

Sweden5331 Posts

May 28 2010 16:30 GMT

#733

When I look back at the PR's one day and I see someone who made dual finals again after being so dominant not being nr1 I will only be satisfied with it if the #1 player clearly showed that he was the better player.

I guess thats the price you have to price you have to pay for winning too much. It's so impossibly hard to win both leagues at the same time and if you lose at the finals the opponent gets all the credit even if he's just in a single league.

WWJDD

India342 Posts

May 28 2010 17:34 GMT

#734

On May 29 2010 00:43 Plexa wrote:

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If Jaedong plays like he has been doing lately and defeats Flash he would probably edge the #1 position off him. If he 5 pools Flash 3 times.... different story.

Dude!!! If he 5 pooled Flash thrice, I guarantee that he'll lose twice. JD is good. He's damn good. But he's not thaaaaaaaaaaaaat good. Besides, it's not random scrub he's playing.

InFdude

Bulgaria619 Posts

May 28 2010 18:13 GMT

#735

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Mindcrime

United States6899 Posts

May 28 2010 18:17 GMT

#736

On May 29 2010 00:43 Plexa wrote:

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If Jaedong plays like he has been doing lately and defeats Flash he would probably edge the #1 position off him. If he 5 pools Flash 3 times.... different story.

So if Flash were to lose to 5pool three times he would retain #1?

:|

jalstar

United States8198 Posts

May 28 2010 20:31 GMT

#737

On May 29 2010 03:17 Mindcrime wrote:

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So if Flash were to lose to 5pool three times he would retain #1?

:|

imo if we get another finals like the OSL, where Flash beats Jaedong in late game but Jaedong wins 3 short games, then Flash should stay #1.

tree.hugger

Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts

May 28 2010 20:35 GMT

#738

On May 29 2010 05:31 jalstar wrote:

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imo if we get another finals like the OSL, where Flash beats Jaedong in late game but Jaedong wins 3 short games, then Flash should stay #1.

So if Jaedong exploits a well-known, recently exposed hole in Flash's game, then Flash should stay #1.

I agree though, let's see the games first. But the likelihood of a controversial PR is high.

DoctorK

United States4 Posts

May 28 2010 20:51 GMT

#739

On May 29 2010 01:30 StylishVODs wrote:
When I look back at the PR's one day and I see someone who made dual finals again after being so dominant not being nr1 I will only be satisfied with it if the #1 player clearly showed that he was the better player.

I guess thats the price you have to price you have to pay for winning too much. It's so impossibly hard to win both leagues at the same time and if you lose at the finals the opponent gets all the credit even if he's just in a single league.

Basically this. If Jaedong doesn't completely dominate the finals and somehow gets #1 vs someone who made dual finals twice in a row while being nearly invincible in Proleague I'm not really sure how I'd react.