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captainwafflos
Profile Joined February 2009
United States212 Posts
May 26 2010 23:35 GMT
#721
On May 27 2010 06:47 Mooncat wrote:
Please do not misunderstand this post. I'm not saying either one of them is the better player. + Show Spoiler +
although I obviously think it's Flash


what.
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
May 26 2010 23:47 GMT
#722
On May 27 2010 08:35 captainwafflos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2010 06:47 Mooncat wrote:
Please do not misunderstand this post. I'm not saying either one of them is the better player. + Show Spoiler +
although I obviously think it's Flash


what.


Oh... Considering EffOrt is involved in this discussion too, I should probably clarify this. Jaedong and Flash are both better players than EffOrt, but between Jaedong and Flash it can't really be decided who's the "better" player overall imo.

"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
May 27 2010 00:09 GMT
#723
What's with this plexa hate over Effort not being mentioned in the last PR? Anyone who claims to have foreseen Effort being a top player again even just two months ago is absolutely full of shit and it's hard to recognize a player as having returned to PR worthy form after playing so bad for so long.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 27 2010 06:13 GMT
#724
I haven't caught up with all the comments, but leaving effort off of the PR last month was 100% justified. Need I play you the night of horrific regames that occurred? Effort did not look anywhere near as good as he does now back then. People need to remember that this is a MONTHLY ranking, not a weekly ranking
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
May 27 2010 23:46 GMT
#725
Looking forward to the June power rank. This MSL finals will be HUGE!!
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 28 2010 01:32 GMT
#726
I'm looking forward to it as well, for once we haven't had a month of people failing!!!!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
May 28 2010 03:16 GMT
#727
On May 28 2010 10:32 Plexa wrote:
I'm looking forward to it as well, for once we haven't had a month of people failing!!!!

It's true, it feels like the last few months have been a handful of players performing consistently, and then the remainder of the PR spots are just flavor of the month types who we know from prior experience aren't there to stay.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
May 28 2010 05:58 GMT
#728
On May 28 2010 10:32 Plexa wrote:
I'm looking forward to it as well, for once we haven't had a month of people failing!!!!


Save for Leta in the MSL Prelims...
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
May 28 2010 13:18 GMT
#729
Plexa might mean not to include Leta. When I posted my thoughts on rankings a few pages back, I thought Leta should be around 9 or 10, the bottom of the ranking. There are a number of people just off the ranking who also had strong performances and I could easily see whoever is in the 9-10 range being replaced by one of those.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 28 2010 15:31 GMT
#730
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=127971&currentpage=2

This blog makes me wonder if JD gets #1 even if he defeats Flash in the MSL.

And Effort will most likely end up below Kal.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
May 28 2010 15:40 GMT
#731
On May 29 2010 00:31 SuperArc wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=127971&currentpage=2

This blog makes me wonder if JD gets #1 even if he defeats Flash in the MSL.

And Effort will most likely end up below Kal.


Effort below Flash is fine and expected, I don't know if even you think Effort is better than Flash. Below Kal? Effort dominated Kal in that semi-final, it was very clear who the better player was.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 28 2010 15:43 GMT
#732
On May 29 2010 00:31 SuperArc wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=127971&currentpage=2

This blog makes me wonder if JD gets #1 even if he defeats Flash in the MSL.

And Effort will most likely end up below Kal.

If Jaedong plays like he has been doing lately and defeats Flash he would probably edge the #1 position off him. If he 5 pools Flash 3 times.... different story.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 28 2010 16:30 GMT
#733
When I look back at the PR's one day and I see someone who made dual finals again after being so dominant not being nr1 I will only be satisfied with it if the #1 player clearly showed that he was the better player.

I guess thats the price you have to price you have to pay for winning too much. It's so impossibly hard to win both leagues at the same time and if you lose at the finals the opponent gets all the credit even if he's just in a single league.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
May 28 2010 17:34 GMT
#734
On May 29 2010 00:43 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 00:31 SuperArc wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=127971&currentpage=2

This blog makes me wonder if JD gets #1 even if he defeats Flash in the MSL.

And Effort will most likely end up below Kal.

If Jaedong plays like he has been doing lately and defeats Flash he would probably edge the #1 position off him. If he 5 pools Flash 3 times.... different story.


Dude!!! If he 5 pooled Flash thrice, I guarantee that he'll lose twice. JD is good. He's damn good. But he's not thaaaaaaaaaaaaat good. Besides, it's not random scrub he's playing.
WWJDD??
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
May 28 2010 18:13 GMT
#735
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
May 28 2010 18:17 GMT
#736
On May 29 2010 00:43 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 00:31 SuperArc wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=127971&currentpage=2

This blog makes me wonder if JD gets #1 even if he defeats Flash in the MSL.

And Effort will most likely end up below Kal.

If Jaedong plays like he has been doing lately and defeats Flash he would probably edge the #1 position off him. If he 5 pools Flash 3 times.... different story.


So if Flash were to lose to 5pool three times he would retain #1?

:|
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
May 28 2010 20:31 GMT
#737
On May 29 2010 03:17 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 00:43 Plexa wrote:
On May 29 2010 00:31 SuperArc wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=127971&currentpage=2

This blog makes me wonder if JD gets #1 even if he defeats Flash in the MSL.

And Effort will most likely end up below Kal.

If Jaedong plays like he has been doing lately and defeats Flash he would probably edge the #1 position off him. If he 5 pools Flash 3 times.... different story.


So if Flash were to lose to 5pool three times he would retain #1?

:|


imo if we get another finals like the OSL, where Flash beats Jaedong in late game but Jaedong wins 3 short games, then Flash should stay #1.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
May 28 2010 20:35 GMT
#738
On May 29 2010 05:31 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 03:17 Mindcrime wrote:
On May 29 2010 00:43 Plexa wrote:
On May 29 2010 00:31 SuperArc wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=127971&currentpage=2

This blog makes me wonder if JD gets #1 even if he defeats Flash in the MSL.

And Effort will most likely end up below Kal.

If Jaedong plays like he has been doing lately and defeats Flash he would probably edge the #1 position off him. If he 5 pools Flash 3 times.... different story.


So if Flash were to lose to 5pool three times he would retain #1?

:|


imo if we get another finals like the OSL, where Flash beats Jaedong in late game but Jaedong wins 3 short games, then Flash should stay #1.

So if Jaedong exploits a well-known, recently exposed hole in Flash's game, then Flash should stay #1.

I agree though, let's see the games first. But the likelihood of a controversial PR is high.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
DoctorK
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4 Posts
May 28 2010 20:51 GMT
#739
On May 29 2010 01:30 StylishVODs wrote:
When I look back at the PR's one day and I see someone who made dual finals again after being so dominant not being nr1 I will only be satisfied with it if the #1 player clearly showed that he was the better player.

I guess thats the price you have to price you have to pay for winning too much. It's so impossibly hard to win both leagues at the same time and if you lose at the finals the opponent gets all the credit even if he's just in a single league.


Basically this. If Jaedong doesn't completely dominate the finals and somehow gets #1 vs someone who made dual finals twice in a row while being nearly invincible in Proleague I'm not really sure how I'd react.
yeah whatever dog
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
May 28 2010 21:13 GMT
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