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On May 14 2010 04:32 Plexa wrote:
As amazing as Flash is playing right now, if Kal beats effort and doesn't choke in the final - Flash vs Kal has the potential to be the best PvT final since Boxer vs Anytime. Indeed, it has the potential to be the best final since Jaedong vs Fantasy. (Jaedong vs Flash was quite a lame final imo).
Given Kals record against Flash (1-5) and JD (3-13), I have no hope that he can touch any of them in a Bo5, and believe that he will choke (even if it is just in the finals). But of course he is by far the best protoss right now, so there is hope that he can put up a fight.
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Flash is the final boss.
If you want a title, you must defeat Flash in the finals!
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On May 14 2010 05:08 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2010 04:32 Plexa wrote:
As amazing as Flash is playing right now, if Kal beats effort and doesn't choke in the final - Flash vs Kal has the potential to be the best PvT final since Boxer vs Anytime. Indeed, it has the potential to be the best final since Jaedong vs Fantasy. (Jaedong vs Flash was quite a lame final imo). Given Kals record against Flash (1-5) and JD (3-13), I have no hope that he can touch any of them in a Bo5, and believe that he will choke (even if it is just in the finals). But of course he is by far the best protoss right now, so there is hope that he can put up a fight. Stop looking at records and start looking at games. If we have a 3-0 series where every game is as close as their first encounter I will be a happy man.
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On May 14 2010 05:40 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2010 05:08 Malinor wrote:On May 14 2010 04:32 Plexa wrote:
As amazing as Flash is playing right now, if Kal beats effort and doesn't choke in the final - Flash vs Kal has the potential to be the best PvT final since Boxer vs Anytime. Indeed, it has the potential to be the best final since Jaedong vs Fantasy. (Jaedong vs Flash was quite a lame final imo). Given Kals record against Flash (1-5) and JD (3-13), I have no hope that he can touch any of them in a Bo5, and believe that he will choke (even if it is just in the finals). But of course he is by far the best protoss right now, so there is hope that he can put up a fight. Stop looking at records and start looking at games. If we have a 3-0 series where every game is as close as their first encounter I will be a happy man.
I will tell you what I think because of watching games. Kal is a massive choker and will choke again. Actually, his constant choking in important games inspired me to look up their records in the first place. If he proves me wrong, you can call me out on it for eternity, since I like Kal, I would be a happy man regardless.
3-0 with three close games won't make me a happy man actually, but that's just a difference in taste.
edit: edited out a cheap shot.
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I can't wait to see next month's power ranking, right after all the starleague finals. It's going to be absolutely epic =) hope you're preparing your brain juice & writing skills Plexa, you've got quite a PR coming!
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On May 14 2010 05:13 StylishVODs wrote:
Flash is the final boss.
If you want a title, you must defeat Flash in the finals!
Reminds me of Federer. Dude always in Grand Slam Final.
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Kalllllllllllllllllllllllllll just got rocked. :O
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Kal PvZ 56%, when you take out Effort, Jaedong and Zero it's 69%.
Oh and CJ gets its third silver in a row. 
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Kal is such a choker. =F
Effort is gonna need a lot of luck to beat Flash. I'm guessing a 3-1 win for Flash where Effort takes one game due to a lucky BO win.
Hmm, Match Point is played twice. =/ That's not good.
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ok i dont mean to beat a dead horse but lets look at how the power rank has done so far in may
1. Flash: 12-1 (obviously no issues there)
2. Jaedong: 7-0 (same)
3. Kal: + Show Spoiler +5-4 (not really #3 play and neither winner was on power rank)
4. Midas: 2-2 (but showed poor play against jaedong)
5. Sea: 0-2 (neither player was on power rank)
6. Baby: 3-1 (loss against guemchi but showed solid play vs. hyun and TvT seems strong)
7. Free: 4-5 (weak 0-3 v. flash, kinda weak 3-1 v. hiya, win against lomo, loss against kal)
8. Great: 3-6 (2-2 v. calm, beat hoejja, lost to stats, lost to jaedong effort and action)
9. MVP: 0-4 (0-3 v. flash and loss to midas)
10. Hiya: 2-5 (beat fbh, lost to fantasy, 1-3 v. free, lost to guemchi)
in other words, 4-10 on power rank went 14-25 so far this month.
that is some poor choices. and it wasn't hard to avoid. a little realism regarding your favorite players. a little perspective on inconsistent, streaky, and new players. a little respect for the players who have shown they can compete at high levels. this is really a pretty weak ranking, and i think most will agree that it looks less, not more, reasonable after the month is halfway through.
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 EffOrt has been doing well versus Terran this year! I'm sure looking forward to the OSL finals.
Let's put him high on the Power Rank to.
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Best case scenario for Jaedong incoming. If Flash wants a golden mouse he's gonna have to pull out all of his stops for Effort, exposing himself greatly for Jaedong. If only there were a second terran that was even mediocre in a Bo5 that Jaedong could play. =(
On May 14 2010 20:13 o[twist] wrote:ok i dont mean to beat a dead horse but lets look at how the power rank has done so far in may 1. Flash: 12-1 (obviously no issues there) 2. Jaedong: 7-0 (same) 3. Kal: + Show Spoiler +5-4 (not really #3 play and neither winner was on power rank) 4. Midas: 2-2 (but showed poor play against jaedong) 5. Sea: 0-2 (neither player was on power rank) 6. Baby: 3-1 (loss against guemchi but showed solid play vs. hyun and TvT seems strong) 7. Free: 4-5 (weak 0-3 v. flash, kinda weak 3-1 v. hiya, win against lomo, loss against kal) 8. Great: 3-6 (2-2 v. calm, beat hoejja, lost to stats, lost to jaedong effort and action) 9. MVP: 0-4 (0-3 v. flash and loss to midas) 10. Hiya: 2-5 (beat fbh, lost to fantasy, 1-3 v. free, lost to guemchi) in other words, 4-10 on power rank went 14-25 so far this month. that is some poor choices. and it wasn't hard to avoid. a little realism regarding your favorite players. a little perspective on inconsistent, streaky, and new players. a little respect for the players who have shown they can compete at high levels. this is really a pretty weak ranking, and i think most will agree that it looks less, not more, reasonable after the month is halfway through.
This is kind of misleading. Almost every player on this rank was in a league and only four people can advance to the finals (well, 3 with Flash around). The rank was particularly bad except for Sea.
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On May 14 2010 20:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Best case scenario for Jaedong incoming. If Flash wants a golden mouse he's gonna have to pull out all of his stops for Effort, exposing himself greatly for Jaedong. If only there were a second terran that was even mediocre in a Bo5 that Jaedong could play. =(
Ya, I would've preferred if Flash had played vs Kal in the final. JD is so smart in his preparation, if he can sniff up any hint of what Flash is gonna do vs him then it's gonna be tough for the Ultimate Weapon.
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you might be right. anyway, effort and calm definitely should have been in the power rank. sea being as high as he was was definitely a mistake, as was, i think, the presence of great and mvp.
the point is that there are people on the power rank who we don't really expect to beat people who aren't on the power rank. i get that it's an odd situation with a good deal of parity below the top two performers, but i seriously do not think that the power rank last month communicated anything meaningful.
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On May 07 2010 09:47 DracoVolantus wrote:
PR shouldn't be such a rollcaster imho.
It could be avoided by not making so important how far sb is in individual by luck.
so full agree with o[twist].
Effort was on 6 wins streak entering may,
and was rookie of 2009 not by accident,
why is he not on PR?
(I'm one of few effort-despite-slump-fans)
And I would put Zero and Fantasy #9 and #10 (random order) in every PR, score doesn't matter :D
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kt zergs, yarnc, kwanro, zero, type-b, action, and the loser of calm v. jaedong
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On May 14 2010 20:47 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2010 20:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Best case scenario for Jaedong incoming. If Flash wants a golden mouse he's gonna have to pull out all of his stops for Effort, exposing himself greatly for Jaedong. If only there were a second terran that was even mediocre in a Bo5 that Jaedong could play. =(
I'd imagine Jaedong's and EffOrt's best practice partners would be  fantasy and BaBy. The problem, of course, is that fantasy has a whole different style than Flash does, but he's still the second best terran in a BoX. The other question is; who does Flash prepare with? He worked with EffOrt for last season's MSL.
Jaedong is going to prepare for Hiya, he has always practiced with his team for finals. He's not the kind of player who likes giving out replays I think.
Effort has Iris to play against who according to Hydra? is still beasting in practice. And CJ players always have some weird strategies in BoXs. Never underestimate their coaching staff.
But yeah I asked this question a week ago too, who is Flash going to prepare with for Jaedong and Effort? Two completely different play styles.
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On May 14 2010 20:51 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2010 20:47 tree.hugger wrote:On May 14 2010 20:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Best case scenario for Jaedong incoming. If Flash wants a golden mouse he's gonna have to pull out all of his stops for Effort, exposing himself greatly for Jaedong. If only there were a second terran that was even mediocre in a Bo5 that Jaedong could play. =(
I'd imagine Jaedong's and EffOrt's best practice partners would be fantasy and BaBy. The problem, of course, is that fantasy has a whole different style than Flash does, but he's still the second best terran in a BoX. The other question is; who does Flash prepare with? He worked with EffOrt for last season's MSL. Jaedong is going to prepare for Hiya, he has always practiced with his team for finals. He's not the kind of player who likes giving out replays I think. Effort has Iris to play against who according to Hydra? is still beasting in practice. And CJ players always have some weird strategies in BoXs. Never underestimate their coaching staff. But yeah I asked this question a week ago too, who is Flash going to prepare with for Jaedong and Effort? Two completely different play styles.
You assume Flash can only practice with team-mates. He's the best player in the world, what zerg (excluding Jaedong and Effort) would refuse practice with him? They want to get better to you know.
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