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J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 13 2010 11:18 GMT
#341
On May 13 2010 20:15 Holgerius wrote:
So; Flash 3-0's one of the strongest P's out there in roughly an hour (using Firebats in one game) and by doing so he reaches CONSECUTIVE DUAL FINALS! WAAAAAH, THIS IS GETTING OUT OF CONTROL!

Oh, did I mention that he also broke the ELO peaks both overall and vP?

... and he's only 17.

That's the craziest thing about Flash to me.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
May 13 2010 11:19 GMT
#342
Flash's title "little monster" is so appropriate.

Guy is a beast at such a young age
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 13 2010 11:23 GMT
#343
It's amazing to see how he has become such a master of mind games. Both the Bo5's vs MVP and Free were him getting free wins because he just smashed them in that department. Combine that with being unbeatable in straight up macro games in all MU's and you have the Ultimate Weapon; God Young Ho!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
May 13 2010 11:25 GMT
#344
if flash wins against CJ he'll tie his win record AGAIN
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 13 2010 11:26 GMT
#345
On May 13 2010 20:23 Holgerius wrote:
It's amazing to see how he has become such a master of mind games. Both the Bo5's vs MVP and Free were him getting free wins because he just smashed them in that department. Combine that with being unbeatable in straight up macro games in all MU's and you have the Ultimate Weapon; God Young Ho!


Flash always was a master in mindgames. Only Jaedong is better.

This is all bo5s are about, confidence. In bo5s not the better player always wins, but the more confident one!

Jaedong is the only person who's not afraid of Flash. This is why JD vs Flash bo5s are so great and anticipated. Neither will ever fear the other.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 11:56:33
May 13 2010 11:53 GMT
#346
So flash is on his 11 game winstreak now. I bet he will win one more game and then drop the next. Somehow players always lose their 13th game on a winstreak.
So he's going to be down 0-1 in a Bo5 !

On another note. It's almost amusing how people call flash opponents really bad. As if they suddenly slumped RIGHT BEFORE they played flash.
Free has been doing well lately which means he's in pretty good shape.
You must try to understand that it's Flash's play that makes them look bad, not their own play.
He's 26-2 in tvp for a reason you know..

One really good thing is that Flash's tvp can no longer be considered boring by anyone.
He is relentlessly agressive nowadays.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 12:02:27
May 13 2010 12:00 GMT
#347
On May 13 2010 20:53 StylishVODs wrote:
So flash is on his 11 game winstreak now. I bet he will win one more game and then drop the next. Somehow players always lose their 13th game on a winstreak.
So he's going to be down 0-1 in a Bo5 !

On another note. It's almost amusing how people call flash opponents really bad. As if they suddenly slumped RIGHT BEFORE they played flash.
Free has been doing well lately which means he's in pretty good shape.
You must try to understand that it's Flash's play that makes them look bad, not their own play.
He's 26-2 in tvp for a reason you know..

One really good thing is that Flash's tvp can no longer be considered boring by anyone.
He is relentlessly agressive nowadays.


You forgot proleague. CJ vs KT is coming. And free didn't play very convincing vs Hiya either. So a crushing defeat against Flash was inevitable.

So Holgerius, Movie played the closest protoss BoX against Flash since Bisu.

CJ so sexy. <3
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 12:10:17
May 13 2010 12:04 GMT
#348
Holy fucking hell, Flash is currently over 2300 in every single MU. The only players to EVER reach above 2300 in ANY MU are Oov and JD (both vZ).

On May 13 2010 21:00 SuperArc wrote:
So Holgerius, Movie played the closest protoss BoX against Flash since Bisu.

Good for him. If only he could ever play decently against any other T he might be considered an average, mediocre PvT'er.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 12:09:04
May 13 2010 12:08 GMT
#349
yeah if only movie had something to brag about other than losing 3-1 to flash
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 13 2010 12:15 GMT
#350
On May 13 2010 21:00 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 20:53 StylishVODs wrote:
So flash is on his 11 game winstreak now. I bet he will win one more game and then drop the next. Somehow players always lose their 13th game on a winstreak.
So he's going to be down 0-1 in a Bo5 !

On another note. It's almost amusing how people call flash opponents really bad. As if they suddenly slumped RIGHT BEFORE they played flash.
Free has been doing well lately which means he's in pretty good shape.
You must try to understand that it's Flash's play that makes them look bad, not their own play.
He's 26-2 in tvp for a reason you know..

One really good thing is that Flash's tvp can no longer be considered boring by anyone.
He is relentlessly agressive nowadays.


You forgot proleague. CJ vs KT is coming. And free didn't play very convincing vs Hiya either. So a crushing defeat against Flash was inevitable.


No I was taking that into account after his win vs CJ he will be on a 12game winstreak. Thats the limit, then he will lose his first game in a Bo5!
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 13 2010 12:56 GMT
#351
On May 13 2010 21:15 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 21:00 SuperArc wrote:
On May 13 2010 20:53 StylishVODs wrote:
So flash is on his 11 game winstreak now. I bet he will win one more game and then drop the next. Somehow players always lose their 13th game on a winstreak.
So he's going to be down 0-1 in a Bo5 !

On another note. It's almost amusing how people call flash opponents really bad. As if they suddenly slumped RIGHT BEFORE they played flash.
Free has been doing well lately which means he's in pretty good shape.
You must try to understand that it's Flash's play that makes them look bad, not their own play.
He's 26-2 in tvp for a reason you know..

One really good thing is that Flash's tvp can no longer be considered boring by anyone.
He is relentlessly agressive nowadays.


You forgot proleague. CJ vs KT is coming. And free didn't play very convincing vs Hiya either. So a crushing defeat against Flash was inevitable.


No I was taking that into account after his win vs CJ he will be on a 12game winstreak. Thats the limit, then he will lose his first game in a Bo5!


Then you ignored estro?
And is this a sign that KT will get 3-1ed?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 20:44:40
May 13 2010 13:29 GMT
#352
On May 13 2010 21:04 Holgerius wrote:
Holy fucking hell, Flash is currently over 2300 in every single MU. The only players to EVER reach above 2300 in ANY MU are Oov and JD (both vZ).

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 21:00 SuperArc wrote:
So Holgerius, Movie played the closest protoss BoX against Flash since Bisu.

Good for him. If only he could ever play decently against any other T he might be considered an average, mediocre PvT'er.



Movie's macro is better then Pure and Free's. He only shows his potential against zergs though, none the less his macro his strong against all three races, and he did out-macro Flash in game 3 in the OSL finals. But yeah his PvT and PvP needs serious work. If Movie played against Flash in the OSL semi-finals, he would have lost just as bad as Pure and Free.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 14:01:21
May 13 2010 13:59 GMT
#353
On May 13 2010 21:56 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 21:15 StylishVODs wrote:
On May 13 2010 21:00 SuperArc wrote:
On May 13 2010 20:53 StylishVODs wrote:
So flash is on his 11 game winstreak now. I bet he will win one more game and then drop the next. Somehow players always lose their 13th game on a winstreak.
So he's going to be down 0-1 in a Bo5 !

On another note. It's almost amusing how people call flash opponents really bad. As if they suddenly slumped RIGHT BEFORE they played flash.
Free has been doing well lately which means he's in pretty good shape.
You must try to understand that it's Flash's play that makes them look bad, not their own play.
He's 26-2 in tvp for a reason you know..

One really good thing is that Flash's tvp can no longer be considered boring by anyone.
He is relentlessly agressive nowadays.


You forgot proleague. CJ vs KT is coming. And free didn't play very convincing vs Hiya either. So a crushing defeat against Flash was inevitable.


No I was taking that into account after his win vs CJ he will be on a 12game winstreak. Thats the limit, then he will lose his first game in a Bo5!


Then you ignored estro?
And is this a sign that KT will get 3-1ed?


Wow yeah I guess I did
Well then either way KT's gonna lose 0-3 to eSTRO! Coz if flash plays he'll lose and if he doesn't...
13th game curse.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 13 2010 14:34 GMT
#354
This kid is ridiculous. Flash just set a new record: elo 2443. I won't be surprised if he manages to break 2450 very soon. And he is over 230 elo points above 3rd player...

And to add to this:
DUAL FINALS BACK-TO-BACK!!!!
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
May 13 2010 15:03 GMT
#355
Thanks to Flash I love timing pushes now against Protoss.

Before I use to be a turtle whore, but now I mass pump out factories and then rape protoss face as they try quick arbiter tech / mass expand.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
May 13 2010 16:07 GMT
#356
On May 13 2010 21:00 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 20:53 StylishVODs wrote:
So flash is on his 11 game winstreak now. I bet he will win one more game and then drop the next. Somehow players always lose their 13th game on a winstreak.
So he's going to be down 0-1 in a Bo5 !

On another note. It's almost amusing how people call flash opponents really bad. As if they suddenly slumped RIGHT BEFORE they played flash.
Free has been doing well lately which means he's in pretty good shape.
You must try to understand that it's Flash's play that makes them look bad, not their own play.
He's 26-2 in tvp for a reason you know..

One really good thing is that Flash's tvp can no longer be considered boring by anyone.
He is relentlessly agressive nowadays.


You forgot proleague. CJ vs KT is coming. And free didn't play very convincing vs Hiya either. So a crushing defeat against Flash was inevitable.

So Holgerius, Movie played the closest protoss BoX against Flash since Bisu.

CJ so sexy. <3


In defense of free, I want to say that even if HiyA screwed up, free still came back from 0-2 to win that series, and HiyA is known for his TvP. I wrote free off as soon as I saw he had to play HiyA and I'm amazed he got to semifinals, regardless of how "convincing" or not his play was.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 13 2010 16:45 GMT
#357
What are we going to call Flash if he loses both finals? lol

As low as the chance it might happen, we've seen how mediocre PvT player Movie played like three times better than he usually does in finals, so Effort/Kal beating Flash isn't fully impossible.

I especially wonder what Flash fans are going to do to cheer for Flash against JD IF (big IF) he loses to Effort in the OSL finals.

Go Flash, beat the superior version of Effort! (?)
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Captain Mayhem
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden774 Posts
May 13 2010 17:33 GMT
#358
On May 14 2010 01:45 SuperArc wrote:
What are we going to call Flash if he loses both finals? lol

As low as the chance it might happen, we've seen how mediocre PvT player Movie played like three times better than he usually does in finals, so Effort/Kal beating Flash isn't fully impossible.

I especially wonder what Flash fans are going to do to cheer for Flash against JD IF (big IF) he loses to Effort in the OSL finals.

Go Flash, beat the superior version of Effort! (?)

We'll just go into denial and say that Effort won by luck/hacks and that Flash now enters ragemode and will roflstomp JD :D
Gravity is just a theory anyway.
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 18:13:03
May 13 2010 18:04 GMT
#359
On May 13 2010 21:04 Holgerius wrote:
Holy fucking hell, Flash is currently over 2300 in every single MU. The only players to EVER reach above 2300 in ANY MU are Oov and JD (both vZ).


Wtf, you are right. There is no other player which has 2300+ in two MUs, let alone in all three at the same time like Flash has (although JD was really close vP).

Add to this the consecutive dual finals...just insane.

Edit: Heh, it's actually kind of funny going through Elo ranking and sorting players by different criteria (vX and peak vX). On top it's Flash Flash Flash Flash Flash JvZ Flash Flash.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 13 2010 19:32 GMT
#360
As amazing as Flash is playing right now, if Kal beats effort and doesn't choke in the final - Flash vs Kal has the potential to be the best PvT final since Boxer vs Anytime. Indeed, it has the potential to be the best final since Jaedong vs Fantasy. (Jaedong vs Flash was quite a lame final imo).
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