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lyhb
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada208 Posts
January 03 2010 06:04 GMT
#121
stork over jaedong? i stopped right there


Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 03 2010 06:06 GMT
#122
It's so satisfying to see a PR without a single SKT player in it.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
January 03 2010 06:30 GMT
#123
I don`t know what kind of drugs you have taken before you wrote this PR, but I want some of it!

The worst PR I have ever seen, the only position (and text for that matter) I can agree on is Flash. Everything else is just god awful and not even consistent. Questioning JDs ZvZ when hes won every single game since last month in a convincing matter. Praise Storks PvZ as the best, despite him losing going SAIR\reaver vs MUTAS and looking totally helpless vs Effort. When you at the same time have Bisu on a 7game PvZ winstreak dispatching every Zerg he faces. And dont even get me started on Calms and ZerOs placement, you cite ingame strengths as the reason for ZerOs placement and then knock Effort of the list despite looking just as good in his losses and having a better overall stats the last month and looking insanely strong in many of his wins. I am just gonna quit now as I assume this is just a joke from your side to see if you can create more of a shitstorm than JWDs rankings could.
God Hates a Coward
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 03 2010 06:36 GMT
#124
<SuperArc mode>Jaedong would have beaten Flash in a Bo5. Therefore, Jaedong should be ranked higher than Flash</SuperArc mode>
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-03 07:15:03
January 03 2010 06:39 GMT
#125
This PR is a joke. Zero should not be on the PR, Calm is WAY too low, Stork is WAY too high. Sea should not be on that list and should be replaced by either Effort or Violet. Kal needs to be higher.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17544 Posts
January 03 2010 06:49 GMT
#126
Perhaps it's too early to say so, but I predict Kal to climb the steps while Calm dropping off of them completely when the next PR is out.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-03 06:50:15
January 03 2010 06:49 GMT
#127
On January 03 2010 15:36 Holgerius wrote:
<SuperArc mode>Jaedong would have beaten Flash in a Bo5. Therefore, Jaedong should be ranked higher than Flash</SuperArc mode>

Damn fucking right.
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Happy face makes everything better.
Jaedong
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 03 2010 07:03 GMT
#128
On January 03 2010 15:49 Manit0u wrote:
Perhaps it's too early to say so, but I predict Kal to climb the steps while Calm dropping off of them completely when the next PR is out.


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AS EVIDENCED TODAY IN PL. Calm losing his match, Kal winning twice. 8)
Remember Violet.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 03 2010 07:03 GMT
#129
No duh -_- he posted it after today's games.
Jaedong
ppgButtercup
Profile Joined July 2009
United States159 Posts
January 03 2010 07:27 GMT
#130
I've only ever watched three games where Flash has cheesed someone in a series that mattered. One of those just happened.

Honestly, I count that as a point for Jaedong instead of one against him. If the best player in the world, known for playing very consistently and almost never cheesing, decides to 7-rax you, you can take that as a compliment.

I really don't see why that is counting against Jaedong. That being said, Stork and Jaedong can be tied for 2nd place as far as I'm concerned: it's a coin flip on which gets which at this point. I'd lean towards Jaedong simply based on him being alive in a starleague, but I'm not upset about it.

And why is there always so much Kwarno hate? He's quite possibly one of the most interesting Zerg players in Starcraft right now. He has a chance against any S-class player in the game simply because you cannot practice properly against him. I really do hope for a Jaedong vs. Kwarno MSL final even though I'm not usually a huge fan of ZvZ.
If at first you do not succeed, burn everything and pretend it never happened.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 03 2010 07:31 GMT
#131
Wait how can no one replicate Kwanro? too hard to 2 hatch Hydra or speedling rush?
Remember Violet.
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
January 03 2010 07:54 GMT
#132
omfg wheres bisu and effort?!?! cmon guys...
IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
January 03 2010 08:20 GMT
#133
Sea should not be on that list and should be replaced by either Effort or Violet.


Why should Sea be replaced by Violet?
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-03 09:39:37
January 03 2010 08:53 GMT
#134
I think Calm deserves to be higher , just like Zero he played a good series vs Flash and he probably has the best ZvZ right now and with the best players in ZvZ i doubt anything can happen except for them winning . Plexa after Calm seeing how bad Pure defended against 2 hat in the first game i don't see nothing wrong with him trying it again in the second game . It was Pure who played bad that series not Calm and it doesn't matter what build he used .

I don't mind Zero being ranked so high , but except for an impressive series vs Flash , even thought i think Calm showed better games .... Zero he failed in every other league in the same month . Losing to Movie and Stork twise certainly isn't something that he "shouldn't be ashamed" . He has one of the best ZvP and to blow it that bad against Movie i didn't particularly watch the games against Stork , but his showing against Movie was bad . Attacking at the worst possible angle on HBR while all he needed to do was stop the push to win the game . On fighting spirit he didn't defend from a zealot rush that was coming cross position to his third after that Movie got all sorts of advantages that even if Zero played well he couldn't do nothing ... Not to mention that he lost to Calm and shuttle in PL , and if there is something that he shouldn't be ashamed of losing is ZvZ against Calm .

I don't even mind placeing Stork #2 althought i think he hasn't done that much to deserve the spot . I just don't agree that a player who is out of both leagues deserve to be called the second best player in the world .

And for Calm
"He was only able to win (on excellent ZvP maps mind you) by resorting to two hatch muta twice (only being forced to do so in game 1)."


Apparently 2 hat mutas is all it takes to kill a player of Pure's caliber , maybe if Pure defended it Calm would have played diffrently in the third game .... Calm's ZvT and ZvZ are probably the best in the world and if not certainly are one of the best and his ZvP is nothing to sneeze at , definetly good enough that if he uses 2 hat muta build and win with it , it wouldn't be held against him . I just don't agree with the placements if Stork is ranked high even thought he lost to a solid ZvP player , why was Calm ranked so low when he put up a good fight just like Zero and apparently not JD who got 7 raxed against the best TvZer ever .

So far all the reasonings for protoss players losing is he got cheesed / map is imbalanced a player is sniper in a MU . When a zerg player loses OMG he played so bad which in fact they didn't it's just that the other player played better (Flash and lowlives) , but even when a zerg beats a protoss he only did it because he cheesed on a favourible ZvP map . Since when was a zergling runby cheese ? Protoss players build only 1 freaking cannon for the longest time hoping to find some sort of advantage and when they get punished by geting greedy it was the zerg that cheesed not that the protoss played bad ..........
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
January 03 2010 09:13 GMT
#135
On January 03 2010 15:49 Manit0u wrote:
Perhaps it's too early to say so, but I predict Kal to climb the steps while Calm dropping off of them completely when the next PR is out.


Yeah but thats the same for Stork . He doesn't have a league to play and both Calm and Stork are doing fairly good in PL . Stork would most definitely fall next month just like Bisu effort zero and Calm this month , but Calm played well last month and deserves a high spot for the month .
Stork being the best protoss at the moment doesn't meen much when he gets eliminated by rokies with solid MUs .
ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
January 03 2010 09:18 GMT
#136
On January 03 2010 15:30 Oystein wrote:
I don`t know what kind of drugs you have taken before you wrote this PR, but I want some of it!

The worst PR I have ever seen, the only position (and text for that matter) I can agree on is Flash. Everything else is just god awful and not even consistent. Questioning JDs ZvZ when hes won every single game since last month in a convincing matter. Praise Storks PvZ as the best, despite him losing going SAIR\reaver vs MUTAS and looking totally helpless vs Effort. When you at the same time have Bisu on a 7game PvZ winstreak dispatching every Zerg he faces. And dont even get me started on Calms and ZerOs placement, you cite ingame strengths as the reason for ZerOs placement and then knock Effort of the list despite looking just as good in his losses and having a better overall stats the last month and looking insanely strong in many of his wins. I am just gonna quit now as I assume this is just a joke from your side to see if you can create more of a shitstorm than JWDs rankings could.


I stopped reading when you started kissing bisus ass

Bisu got manner CC'd by Frozean.

FROZEAN

I don't care if he 3-0'd flash and jaedong in a 1 v 2, you get bm'd by frozean and you have no right to be ranked
Kal Fighting!
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-03 09:52:34
January 03 2010 09:21 GMT
#137
On January 03 2010 08:10 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2010 08:09 SkytoM wrote:
On January 03 2010 08:08 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 03 2010 08:05 ndralcasid wrote:
When was the last time Bisu was out of the PR??

And damn, Movie needs a new picture...


almost never. Even when he deserved to be sometimes, he still got #3 positions in the like because "Bisu's obviously a top 3 player," works for him. ):


and this month, where he would deserve to be on it, he isn't. Look at his TLPD and say to my FACE that his PvZ doesnt look impressive again.
It doesn't look impressive.


But was Stork's ? He only beat zero twise in PL . His 1 win against Shine has no meaning since he utterly failed in the other 2 games and they weren't even close unlike the PR suggests .
400lb White Girl
Profile Joined April 2009
United States83 Posts
January 03 2010 09:21 GMT
#138
This power rank is... CBNC
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 03 2010 09:21 GMT
#139
Excellent individual league performance (OSL semis);
very good record in proleague (6-2);
strength in all matchups (top-notch ZvP and ZvZ, and the best ZvFlash yet);
recent championship win (in case you're not sure whether to grant the benefit of the doubt).

Add all that up and you get Calm. 9th place? What the fuck?
May the BeSt man win.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 03 2010 09:36 GMT
#140
SO MUCH HATE OMGRAWR

but yeah calm is too low
Poor bisu
dats racist
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