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AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
January 15 2010 06:11 GMT
#401
On January 14 2010 22:45 ghostWriter wrote:
When Flash wins against Movie in OSL, Jaedong in MSL and Hero in proleague, I expect to see him in top 3 slots for next month's powerrank AND a bonjwa status sticker.


well Flash is a favorite against Movie, Hero's ZvT sucks, AND Hero + Jaedong are Zergs and Flash is a Terran.

I think its okay to assume there is a big chance this might happen. But even then, bonjwa status sticker should not go to Flash just for beating a mediocore Toss and playing 2 imba matchups
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Tyxiquale
Profile Joined September 2008
Australia424 Posts
January 15 2010 06:18 GMT
#402
that's a bit dismissive and disrespective towards Jaedong and his ZvT don't you think?

I personally think winning OSL and MSL require a lot of luck.. eg, luck boxing opponents who's race is your best matchup.

Flash's best matchup is TvT. I'd like to point out that flash's runs in both the MSL and OSL have been against non-terran opponents. He did not face ONE, at all.

if he's to win both, it won't be because he got lucky that he faced "mediocre" toss, or cos he played imba matchups.. its cos he actually earned it.
Dumb people don't know that they're dumb.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 15 2010 06:47 GMT
#403
On January 15 2010 15:11 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 22:45 ghostWriter wrote:
When Flash wins against Movie in OSL, Jaedong in MSL and Hero in proleague, I expect to see him in top 3 slots for next month's powerrank AND a bonjwa status sticker.


well Flash is a favorite against Movie, Hero's ZvT sucks, AND Hero + Jaedong are Zergs and Flash is a Terran.

I think its okay to assume there is a big chance this might happen. But even then, bonjwa status sticker should not go to Flash just for beating a mediocore Toss and playing 2 imba matchups


AzureEye you are up there with Nigol as the worst poster in TL
dats racist
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
January 15 2010 08:12 GMT
#404
People are whipping out the B-word because a player dominated the scene for a few months?

...

Goddammit, Teamliquid.
My strategy is to fork people.
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
January 15 2010 09:04 GMT
#405
On January 15 2010 17:12 Severedevil wrote:
People are whipping out the B-word because a player dominated the scene for a few months?

...

Goddammit, Teamliquid.

well, there is domination and DOMINATION. Out of current bonwjas only Nada won 2 leagues at same time. If Flash does the same...
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 15 2010 09:17 GMT
#406
I'm worrying about flash coz he said he can't get enough sleep nowadays :/

Well since there are so much more games played today and the domination shown by flash is bigger than anyone else in history right now its just about right.
People are too much like "ah the good old days" and then making up things like the bonjwas never lost.. Even the bonjwas of old didn't have records like flash.

Also AzureEye, if flash is not allowed to get credit for beating protosses and zergs, we can only credit him for beating terran? Well then it's settled.

According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
January 15 2010 09:46 GMT
#407
Since when did you just have to dominate one season to become a bonjwa??
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
January 15 2010 10:02 GMT
#408
On January 15 2010 18:46 Elroi wrote:
Since when did you just have to dominate one season to become a bonjwa??

Since October, obviously.
My strategy is to fork people.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 11:34:04
January 15 2010 10:36 GMT
#409
For me a bonjwa is someone who almost always wins, no matter the opponent. When people get seriously suprised when a player actually loses a game, he has that status to me.
Dominating for years with the competition of today is alot harder than before, so you can't really compare the bonjwas from old and today.

There is boxer, oov, savior and nada, the old bonjwas.

then there is jaedong, flash and bisu. They're just called "the best players".
they've all been on top of their race since forever.
to me they're bonjwas too :/
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
January 15 2010 11:26 GMT
#410
Well sure, Flash can be a bonjwa if Jaedong, Bisu, and maybe Stork also count. There's a reason for taekbangleesang, after all.
My strategy is to fork people.
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
January 15 2010 13:46 GMT
#411
Flash is Bonjwa
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 15:20:57
January 15 2010 15:14 GMT
#412
On January 15 2010 18:17 StylishVODs wrote:
I'm worrying about flash coz he said he can't get enough sleep nowadays :/

Well since there are so much more games played today and the domination shown by flash is bigger than anyone else in history right now its just about right.
People are too much like "ah the good old days" and then making up things like the bonjwas never lost.. Even the bonjwas of old didn't have records like flash.

Also AzureEye, if flash is not allowed to get credit for beating protosses and zergs, we can only credit him for beating terran? Well then it's settled.



When did I say Flash didn't deserve credit for beating a Protoss? I just said Movie's PvT is not good, mediocre at best and its expected that Flash will overwhelm him.

Learn to read

EDIT: @Tyxiquale
Yes if he wins those matches, he definately deserves his win. But that doesn't justify him getting the bonjwa status
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
January 15 2010 16:41 GMT
#413
bye bisu lol
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 18:38:52
January 15 2010 18:37 GMT
#414
AzureEye, you specifically said "bonjwa status sticker should not go to Flash just for beating a mediocore Toss and playing 2 imba matchups".

First im going to ignore the "imba" part.

No it shouldn't go to him for beating a mediocre toss.
If bonjwa status was given out for everyone who beat a medicre toss everyone would be bonjwa.
He just beat Best 3-0 to get where he is.

If it goes to him it's because he plays like a god and dominates everyone.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 15 2010 18:51 GMT
#415
Ignore the guy, he's just fishing for attention. I don't think he even sees the irony in that he complains more about Terran players complaining about Protoss than Terran players actually complain about Protoss. Probably even including IdrA. He also whines more about TvZ than I've ever seen anyone whine about PvT.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 15 2010 19:43 GMT
#416
On January 15 2010 15:11 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 22:45 ghostWriter wrote:
When Flash wins against Movie in OSL, Jaedong in MSL and Hero in proleague, I expect to see him in top 3 slots for next month's powerrank AND a bonjwa status sticker.


well Flash is a favorite against Movie, Hero's ZvT sucks, AND Hero + Jaedong are Zergs and Flash is a Terran.

I think its okay to assume there is a big chance this might happen. But even then, bonjwa status sticker should not go to Flash just for beating a mediocore Toss and playing 2 imba matchups


God you are so stupid it hurts me.
RIP Aaliyah
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 20:49:40
January 15 2010 20:43 GMT
#417
On January 16 2010 03:37 StylishVODs wrote:
AzureEye, you specifically said "bonjwa status sticker should not go to Flash just for beating a mediocore Toss and playing 2 imba matchups".

First im going to ignore the "imba" part.

No it shouldn't go to him for beating a mediocre toss.
If bonjwa status was given out for everyone who beat a medicre toss everyone would be bonjwa.
He just beat Best 3-0 to get where he is.

If it goes to him it's because he plays like a god and dominates everyone.


I admit that Best is a very good PvT player and Flash deserves all the credit he gets from beating him. The guy I quoted specifically mentioned beating Movie as one of the achievements that leads to bonjwa status and I disagreed with that, seeing how Movie is not a good PvT player. I didn't know you included Best and the other good players Flash had beaten recently as part of the argument, but I guess that is a given that I forgot to think about


On January 16 2010 03:51 Hinanawi wrote:
Ignore the guy, he's just fishing for attention. I don't think he even sees the irony in that he complains more about Terran players complaining about Protoss than Terran players actually complain about Protoss. Probably even including IdrA. He also whines more about TvZ than I've ever seen anyone whine about PvT.


I know you're still bitter than I refute your idiotic claims about TvP being imba but now you resort to comparing the quantity of the posts I make? lol pathetic
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
January 15 2010 20:47 GMT
#418
On January 16 2010 04:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 15:11 AzureEye wrote:
On January 14 2010 22:45 ghostWriter wrote:
When Flash wins against Movie in OSL, Jaedong in MSL and Hero in proleague, I expect to see him in top 3 slots for next month's powerrank AND a bonjwa status sticker.


well Flash is a favorite against Movie, Hero's ZvT sucks, AND Hero + Jaedong are Zergs and Flash is a Terran.

I think its okay to assume there is a big chance this might happen. But even then, bonjwa status sticker should not go to Flash just for beating a mediocore Toss and playing 2 imba matchups


God you are so stupid it hurts me.


oh yeah? care to explain? I'm just reluctant to label any player with the B word in this age of sc
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 15 2010 21:12 GMT
#419
Like someone said we dont decide who are Bonjwas, Koreans do.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 15 2010 21:15 GMT
#420
On January 16 2010 05:43 AzureEye wrote:

Show nested quote +
On January 16 2010 03:51 Hinanawi wrote:
Ignore the guy, he's just fishing for attention. I don't think he even sees the irony in that he complains more about Terran players complaining about Protoss than Terran players actually complain about Protoss. Probably even including IdrA. He also whines more about TvZ than I've ever seen anyone whine about PvT.


I know you're still bitter than I refute your idiotic claims about TvP being imba but now you resort to comparing the quantity of the posts I make? lol pathetic


You did no such thing. I gathered up all the stats for this season to show you that your 'T >>> Z > P = T' nonsense was not true this season, and you proceeded to claim that statistics don't matter unless you include stats from 6-7 years ago back when Starcraft was a radically different game.

If anyone here wants to check for themselves, they can follow the link in this guy's signature to his whiny TvP blog and decide for themselves, but I'm done wasting effort.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
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