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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
December 03 2009 13:27 GMT
#121
On December 03 2009 21:57 De4ngus wrote:
He shouldn't have been there in the first place. I already said this, but I really really think Effort and Stork should have been put above him.

Edit: Whoops, I didn't see the post above mine. It's like the same thing lol.


More like Effort and Zero . They still have not dissapointed except randomly loosing ZvZ which i don't blame them since even JD loses .
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
December 03 2009 15:13 GMT
#122
Yea.... I am sticking with my thought that something is wrong with Bisu's hands/wrists.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 18:11:08
December 03 2009 15:47 GMT
#123
On December 03 2009 20:02 StylishVODs wrote:
you silly guys who couldn't believe jaedong to stay high last month:O


The PR isn't intended to be predictive, it's merely meant to encapsulate a moment. The thing is, (Z)Jaedong was horribly over-ranked last month, but he had a very good month recently, and his current position is just fine.

On December 03 2009 21:54 samachking wrote:
once again justice is served with an iron hammer upon those who do not deserve to be in their undeserved PR spot yet are ranked highly in it due to the PR writer's misdoing


It's ironic yes, but (P)Bisu at #3 should be debated on the results of his month, it has nothing to do with how terrible he's playing right now.

EDIT: So did I. I'm just saying that going down that road is problematic. We both agree!
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 03 2009 16:49 GMT
#124
On December 04 2009 00:47 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 20:02 StylishVODs wrote:
you silly guys who couldn't believe jaedong to stay high last month:O


The PR isn't intended to be predictive, it's merely meant to encapsulate a moment. The thing is, (Z)Jaedong was horribly over-ranked last month, but he had a very good month recently, and his current position is just fine.

Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 21:54 samachking wrote:
once again justice is served with an iron hammer upon those who do not deserve to be in their undeserved PR spot yet are ranked highly in it due to the PR writer's misdoing


It's ironic yes, but (P)Bisu at #3 should be debated on the results of his month, it has nothing to do with how terrible he's playing right now.


I did debate it
like many others have done in the first few pages
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 18:06:42
December 03 2009 17:41 GMT
#125
I vote for Bisu out of the PR. I really think he deserves it this time.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 03 2009 19:17 GMT
#126
On December 04 2009 02:41 SuperArc wrote:
I vote for Bisu out of the PR. I really think he deserves it this time.

The month is far from over though.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 03 2009 19:57 GMT
#127
On December 04 2009 04:17 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2009 02:41 SuperArc wrote:
I vote for Bisu out of the PR. I really think he deserves it this time.

The month is far from over though.


PL only deserves a 8-10 spot at best, especially since he already started the month with a quick exit out of the MSL
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 03 2009 20:46 GMT
#128
On December 04 2009 04:17 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2009 02:41 SuperArc wrote:
I vote for (P)Bisu out of the PR. I (T)Really think he deserves it this time.

The month is far from over though.


Oh yeah I forgot (P)Bisu beat (P)HakSoo, right?

Bisu has to win 90-95% of the rest of his games if he wants to stay. Since his play is horrible AND his results.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 03 2009 20:58 GMT
#129
On December 04 2009 04:17 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2009 02:41 SuperArc wrote:
I vote for Bisu out of the PR. I really think he deserves it this time.

The month is far from over though.


It is for Bisu, honestly.

Doesn't matter if he wins 2 PL games since he dropped one and lost in MSL. =\

He could still get a low rank but he's definitely dropping, short of winning an average of 2 games in PL per match for the rest of the month.
Remember Violet.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 22:26:43
December 03 2009 22:18 GMT
#130
On December 03 2009 21:57 De4ngus wrote:
He shouldn't have been there in the first place. I already said this, but I really really think Effort and Stork should have been put above him.

Edit: Whoops, I didn't see the post above mine. It's like the same thing lol.
Bisu got #3 basically because there wasn't any real evidence that he was playing bad. He didn't play many games but it did look like he had stabilized. Progaming has just been so messed up over the past month ...
I suspect that January will yield a very very different ranking
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 03 2009 22:27 GMT
#131
as much as i love Bisu he has got to get off of the next PR

losses to Bogus, Guemchi and HAKSOO... -___- all of which he should have beat quite comfortably, or was expected to beat quite comfortably.

His much vaunted PvP and PvT seemed very sloppy and quite amatuerish
cw)minsean(ru
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 23:24:01
December 03 2009 23:23 GMT
#132
On December 04 2009 07:18 Plexa wrote:
I suspect that January will yield a very very different ranking

I also hope January will give us an improved Samsung Khan!

(Stork coming back, in particular.)
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
December 03 2009 23:54 GMT
#133
On December 04 2009 08:23 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2009 07:18 Plexa wrote:
I suspect that January will yield a very very different ranking

I also hope January will give us an improved Samsung Khan!

I don't know why I read Plexa's post like that too at first O_O.

And yeah Bisu... doing pretty poorly. It's not even about him dropping out of leagues it's about his play. Just seems sloppy...

I wouldn't drop him off the rank entirely but :/
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
December 04 2009 00:29 GMT
#134
Unless he loses almost all of his remaining Proleague games, I can't see Bisu dropping off the list altogether. He's looked really unbalanced lately, but brief periods of ineptness happen even with S-class players. His game against Mind was excellent, so it's not as if his skills just vanished. More like he plays sloppy against opponents he doesn't respect. Which is really not a good skill to have. It's pretty clear just from PL round 1 that everyone's skills have improved significantly and that no one is rolling over for anyone anymore.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
December 04 2009 01:11 GMT
#135
If the Power Rank is supposed to be any sort of indicator of who is currently "powerful", then Bisu is sure as hell not dropping off it unless he continues to fuck up this month. And he sure as hell won't be continuing to fuck up, because he'll be coming back with a vengeance after these recent embarrassments, and he'll have nothing to distract him from practicing for proleague.
May the BeSt man win.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
December 04 2009 02:40 GMT
#136
Jaedong is starting to find his groove again. Although it is troubling that his only two losses out of his last 10 games have been to zerg, and zerg who clearly should NOT have beaten him.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
December 04 2009 02:50 GMT
#137
Jaedong's ZvZ is still shoddy, he's just playing less of it now, his ZvP and ZvT never went anywhere, he just barely played any last month because he was seeded so far in the individual leagues.
Jaedong
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
December 04 2009 03:02 GMT
#138
For what its worth, I don't think Bisu should drop off the list... but spot 9 would be optimistic.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 03:27:23
December 04 2009 03:23 GMT
#139
Keep in mind we still have like four weeks before the power rank.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 04 2009 04:17 GMT
#140
On December 04 2009 07:27 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
as much as i love Bisu he has got to get off of the next PR

losses to Bogus, Guemchi and HAKSOO... -___- all of which he should have beat quite comfortably, or was expected to beat quite comfortably.

His much vaunted PvP and PvT seemed very sloppy and quite amatuerish

To be fair, there is no indication that his PvT is any weaker than it ever was. Any Protoss would've lost to Bogus' cheese on that map if they did the same opening as Bisu, unless they were incredibly lucky with a scout.
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