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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
November 03 2006 10:53 GMT
#41
You're all right. And it's impressive that he's so good at it.

The disappointing thing is that he does what every other Zerg does, in a marginally better manner, exploiting the most easily executed builds in the game (however good he is at them) and produces redundant and uninspired ZvPs that no one will ever remember. Very similarly to July, he makes PvZ look impossible.

So I appreciate that he's so good at it, but watching him win that way is like seeing a Terran beat a Zerg on Longinus. It's cute that the play is so solid, but by the third time I've seen it I'm bored to tears and want to see the map die.

Similarly, I want to see a ZvP series only on maps with balanced stats. If ever game was on Peaks, Ra would've brought Savior to 5 games. But you give this kid any kind of edge, and he's unbeatable. So I'm not entertained seeing him take that edge and rape with it. I get it, he's super good. Give me good maps now. Not a couple good maps. A whole card. That's the only way you'll see a monster like that beaten in a series. He can't have a single free game.
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Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
November 03 2006 11:17 GMT
#42
GOD FUCK SILVER MUST WIN!~ anyone know when the finals are taking place?
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
TaDa1.
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
655 Posts
November 03 2006 11:50 GMT
#43
game 3 was pimp, savior took ra expo with excellent timing
sos bomber stork savior fan ^ http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5160596/1/WXZ/achievements/category/4377898
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
November 03 2006 12:10 GMT
#44
Watching game1, I was SHAKING. Seriously. SHHAAAKKKING.
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
88)WhyYouKickMyDog
Profile Joined July 2004
United States608 Posts
November 03 2006 12:50 GMT
#45
u were shaking?
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12816 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-03 13:54:28
November 03 2006 13:52 GMT
#46
On November 03 2006 14:28 BrutalMenace wrote:
is it just me or is Savior now the current Modern day OOv?

It was not just you... We just need another anytime w/ crazier shits to take savior down.
Don't worry my protoss breatherns1 The day will come for savior to eat his own biles and vomits. Just wait. Just you wait!
P.S.
Savior is awefully uninspired. It is as if GF started to win...
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
November 03 2006 13:55 GMT
#47
man i hate saviour first he beats boxer now ra i hope he loses the finals
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
November 03 2006 19:21 GMT
#48
pvz imba
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
November 03 2006 22:34 GMT
#49
zergs are imbalanced, i told you!
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
righthand
Profile Joined June 2006
Haiti163 Posts
November 04 2006 15:00 GMT
#50
not zerg that's imba savior is imba
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
November 04 2006 15:14 GMT
#51
i really hope there is someone capable of defeating him
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
safe[3x]
Profile Joined April 2004
United States50 Posts
November 05 2006 13:56 GMT
#52
come on guys, what is all this talk that saviour is so un-original and lame. If you're upset because your favorite player didnt win, thats different. I dont see any players making super original plays either guys...

I mean look at ra, he did fast expansion all 4 games...hows that for original.

Face it, they all basically do the same strategies, no ones making up new strats anymore...its all just execution.

ZvP imbalance you say? perhaps, but lets not forget that saviour's real shining point is his ZvT. His ZvT is what got him the MSL win before, and its what distinguished him from other zergs.

In my opinion his ZvT play is diferent (and seems to work better) compared to the pack of low-econ zergs we've seen so much lately (aka Yellow, July, Chojja).
Prose
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada314 Posts
November 14 2006 08:30 GMT
#53
After an epic first game that pushed both players to the max, the road still stretched out far in front of them. The dreamer toss had hit with his first salvo, but if that was the kind of game necessary to beat Savior, was it possible to do it three times? Game 2 was going to speak volumes in that regard, on a map that, at 6-3 PvZ, has a much more severe tilt in the balance.

--> Nal_Ra had LUCK on his side even in that first game. Those fat ultralisks got stuck at a narrow ramp, and I believe he would have lost that major battle if they had gone through.

However, none of these thoughts were going through rA’s mind as he opened at 11, placing his first pylon at his natural. He scouted Savior straight off, and seeing the hatchery first build felt confident to fast expand himself. He was mining gas far before his first gateway, and showed some amazing probe micro in preventing a second expo chance by savior over at 3. However, the Maestro got his expo, and dropped both a den and spire in front of the protoss scout, daring him to guess at the tech.

What the heck is this! Protoss is supposed to be the mind-game Race...
April showers bring May flowers bring June bugs bring JulyZerg.
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