EPTAuction OSL - Maru vs. INnoVation - Ro4 Recap - Page 4
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hellodee
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Master of DalK
Canada1803 Posts
This series was so sick. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 31 2013 11:28 forumtext wrote: If the STX money troubles is real, then I am willing to bet that Innonvation practiced nothing but PL for the past few weeks. The guy's job is on the line. But to Maru's credit, he excuted well. Winning Proleague has little to no effect on STX's finances (in the short term) He's also facing Soulkey, which he didn't know until the day of his OSL match (or a day prior, not sure), who he had already practiced for in the previous round and crushed. | ||
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Myrddraal
Australia937 Posts
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
I think we saw the complete breakdown of Innovation in G3 where he pulled all of his SCVs to chase the marines, but forgot to kill the SCV building the bunker in his base. Then he turned around and fought with his SCVs...AWAY from his marines, AWAY from his bunker. In the following game (G4), he just started making really strange and uncharacteristic moves like forgetting to leave marines in the back of his base and running units through chokes in his main base against sieged tanks, making several mechanical errors and occasional misclicks. MISCLICKS? From the best player in world, what was happening? I think it can all be boiled down to Innovation having the same syndrome Naniwa faces: if he comes into a match feeling good, he will completely and utterly dominate his opponent mechanically, but the moment he starts to doubt himself even a little the game is over. | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On July 31 2013 10:58 CioSc2 wrote: I totaly agree, Only game 3 was a ''cheese'' builds. Games 1 and 2 where more what I would call agressive 1 base timings. G4 would´ve been a macro game if innovation wouldnt had F/up and roasted all of his marines in his first push of the whole series. I agree with this quite a bit. A lot of people are saying that Maru cheesed his way in, but G1 seemed like a legitimate timing and strategy from Maru. Even if Innovation had somehow held, Maru had 2 tanks to zero and could have definitely climbed ahead in economy and macro'd his way to victory. G2 was a little...odd. I would say that game was more all-in than the previous game. It reminds me of hyvaa timings: "If I do some kind of early attack and my opponent manages to stop it, I'll just try AGAIN WITH MORE STUFF!! and he won't expect it." And alas, Innovation cancelled his tank thinking that Maru wouldn't do the same thing AGAIN. | ||
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Akimbo
Canada105 Posts
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TheLetterQ
United States65 Posts
On July 31 2013 10:58 CioSc2 wrote: I totaly agree, Only game 3 was a ''cheese'' builds. Games 1 and 2 where more what I would call agressive 1 base timings. G4 would´ve been a macro game if innovation wouldnt had F/up and roasted all of his marines in his first push of the whole series. I was rooting for Maru and don't begrudge him for using aggressive builds, but if proxy starport isn't cheese then I don't know what is. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 31 2013 13:41 SC2John wrote: I agree with this quite a bit. A lot of people are saying that Maru cheesed his way in, but G1 seemed like a legitimate timing and strategy from Maru. Even if Innovation had somehow held, Maru had 2 tanks to zero and could have definitely climbed ahead in economy and macro'd his way to victory. G2 was a little...odd. I would say that game was more all-in than the previous game. It reminds me of hyvaa timings: "If I do some kind of early attack and my opponent manages to stop it, I'll just try AGAIN WITH MORE STUFF!! and he won't expect it." And alas, Innovation cancelled his tank thinking that Maru wouldn't do the same thing AGAIN. Nah it looks like it really is a build designed for 2 medivacs. That one gas can support constant medivac production. Maru didn't decide to attack again because his first drop didn't do much damage, that was the plan all along. Neeb used it on Drunkenboi in WCS AM. Exact same build on a different map, same result. | ||
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matsushi
Philippines65 Posts
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xxxKagexxx
France43 Posts
Edit ok i was really bored saw this game sry for this comment ... | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 31 2013 14:34 xxxKagexxx wrote: to everyone supporting maru i just want to say than you just play same level than him everyday on ladder so i don't see why you'll support e-sport anymore now, this game loosing his soul and doesn't interest me so much anymore with game like that. bye | ||
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matsushi
Philippines65 Posts
On July 31 2013 14:34 xxxKagexxx wrote: to everyone supporting maru i just want to say than you just play same level than him everyday on ladder so i don't see why you'll support e-sport anymore now, this game loosing his soul and doesn't interest me so much anymore with game like that. Say what you will, but cheese is part of what makes SC so amazing. And yes, I'm sure every single person who supports Maru in this post is good enough to be in an OSL final. (edits were just some grammar stuff) | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
On July 31 2013 14:34 xxxKagexxx wrote: to everyone supporting maru i just want to say than you just play same level than him everyday on ladder so i don't see why you'll support e-sport anymore now, this game loosing his soul and doesn't interest me so much anymore with game like that. yea Maru did nothing special, that's why people beat Innovation all the time, lol what? | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On July 31 2013 14:34 xxxKagexxx wrote: to everyone supporting maru i just want to say than you just play same level than him everyday on ladder so i don't see why you'll support e-sport anymore now, this game loosing his soul and doesn't interest me so much anymore with game like that. Wait what ? Cheesing in OSL, yeah we never seen that before ... right ... Perhaps we should ask JD dunno just to name one. To me that only made OSL have more soul. Just read the topic for a moment and come to understand why Maru chose to cheese, if you understand that then you can respect his choice. Innovation has 2 major weaknesses. # getting killed early. (he often plays very macro greedy) # Mentality (when a player get's in his head, he starts to make mistakes) Looks to me Maru deserves props for abusing both those and play from his strength then instead of that of Innovation. To some "fans" like you for instance, this play is not respected because you are selfish and want to see another type of game play that you yourself enjoy watching. Not to say that's bad but let's be honest Maru played to win not to entertain. Now i do fail to see what this has to do with not supporting E-sports ? Also, i wish i could cheese like Maru did on ladder  It's supprisingly difficult. | ||
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xxxKagexxx
France43 Posts
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seiya9
United States2 Posts
On July 31 2013 09:12 painkilla wrote: Bomber, please kick that smug Rain out of the OSL. Then this would be the best season ever. Thank you very much! Ain't gonna happen. | ||
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Snijjer
United States989 Posts
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seiya9
United States2 Posts
On July 31 2013 09:28 StarStruck wrote: I'm rolling my eyes at you and not in good way. Oh don't worry, your eyes will be rolling even more once Bomber hits his 'curse'. Kespa players are the best. They have a more professional understanding of RTS mechanics like micro and macro. Flash, Jaedong, Bisu>MVP, Nestea, MC. | ||
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
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