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Auction OSL - Maru vs. INnoVation - Ro4 Recap - Page 2

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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
July 31 2013 00:23 GMT
#21
im so sad. I don't dislike maru.. bbut.. 4-0 ;_;
AKMU / IU
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
July 31 2013 00:24 GMT
#22
On July 31 2013 09:12 painkilla wrote:
Bomber, please kick that smug Rain out of the OSL. Then this would be the best season ever. Thank you very much!

I'm probably overreacting here, but how the hell is Rain smug? His play and real life attitude both seem pretty damn honest to me. The smug ones are the Kespa fans.

Regarding this 4-0, I love innovation, but really, this is supposed to be an RTS game, and while innovation has mastered the "RT" part, he doesn't have the "S" part down pat. Glad that strategy shown over raw mechanical strength.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 31 2013 00:28 GMT
#23
On July 31 2013 09:24 xAdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 09:12 painkilla wrote:
Bomber, please kick that smug Rain out of the OSL. Then this would be the best season ever. Thank you very much!

I'm probably overreacting here, but how the hell is Rain smug? His play and real life attitude both seem pretty damn honest to me. The smug ones are the Kespa fans.

Regarding this 4-0, I love innovation, but really, this is supposed to be an RTS game, and while innovation has mastered the "RT" part, he doesn't have the "S" part down pat. Glad that strategy shown over raw mechanical strength.


I'm rolling my eyes at you and not in good way.
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
July 31 2013 00:29 GMT
#24
On July 31 2013 08:56 banjoetheredskin wrote:
YES! Maru can win it all now because Bomber's law will be in full effect once he destroys Rain. Honestly I would rather Rain win it all, but I don't see him beating Bomber.

Bomber's law might take effect AFTER he wins the OSL
$O$ | soO
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
July 31 2013 00:32 GMT
#25
On July 31 2013 09:19 DavoS wrote:
I'm pretty late to this party, but #PrimeFaith

ahh shit the word is gettin around #primefaith
i wouldn't really call the first two games cheeses, but rather well executed all ins
rip prime
monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
July 31 2013 00:33 GMT
#26
i hope it will will be a bomber vs maru final cause last wcs KR final we had a Kespa vs Kespa series now it is time for the eSF i guess
SehWho
Profile Joined July 2012
69 Posts
July 31 2013 00:36 GMT
#27
So happy about this, I love Maru so much, and anyone who beats innovation gains a fan in me!
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
July 31 2013 00:45 GMT
#28
(T)INnoVation lost his soul when he clearly understimated (T)Maru , the close to royal road at his prime.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 00:46:20
July 31 2013 00:46 GMT
#29
nice pun in the title, lol
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
July 31 2013 00:49 GMT
#30
Planning or strategy it's all alot of luck too. TvT has quite a bit of options and I don't think there are truly safe builds there, there are many ways you can just die to a little bad luck, like thinking your opponent is going banshee while instead he is doing some elevator tactic.
Maru played really well though, his builds well fairly well hidden and the execution he did made them stomp innovation so hard, the 1-1-1 in the first map for example only worked because he had quite a decent position after the banshee harass. If innovation takes just slightly less damage there he might have a tank early and stops it.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 31 2013 00:50 GMT
#31
Thanks for the recap Zealously, well done as always
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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
July 31 2013 00:52 GMT
#32
haters gonna hate, but Maru/Prime out thought and prepared STXSouL/BoGus
rip prime
MatiaasS !
Profile Joined October 2011
Chile167 Posts
July 31 2013 00:54 GMT
#33
Yay Maru !
Team EG, TL and IM ! || Tennis For Life ♥ RF ♥
Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
July 31 2013 00:56 GMT
#34
On July 31 2013 08:59 Waxangel wrote:
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On July 31 2013 08:57 Orcasgt24 wrote:
I'm not convinced Innovation is the best player in the world anymore. His tendency to die to every early attack he faces should prevent the title of "The Best" for being applied to him. At the very least it should make the top of SC 2 a much more crowded position. He's still the single last player I want on the other side of the map after 15 minutes though.

I Liquibet Maru because I figured he would be able to cheese Innovation 2 or 3 times and then win 1 or 2 macroish games. Never would have thought 4-0


eh you can be the best without being absolutely dominant, you just have to be better than everyone else by whatever margin


getting slaughtered in a bo 7 by a player that has never won anything but the heart of some fans will not help though

renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
July 31 2013 00:57 GMT
#35
still can't believe it, maru is a little monster!
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
July 31 2013 01:01 GMT
#36
On July 31 2013 09:49 Markwerf wrote:
Planning or strategy it's all alot of luck too. TvT has quite a bit of options and I don't think there are truly safe builds there, there are many ways you can just die to a little bad luck, like thinking your opponent is going banshee while instead he is doing some elevator tactic.
Maru played really well though, his builds well fairly well hidden and the execution he did made them stomp innovation so hard, the 1-1-1 in the first map for example only worked because he had quite a decent position after the banshee harass. If innovation takes just slightly less damage there he might have a tank early and stops it.


a defensive 1-1-1 with tanks and turrets is prolly the safest bet vs anything, yet its offensive potential is non existent

this beeing said, i think innovation did not handle a single "cheese" the right way neither did he scout early enough / correctly

banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
July 31 2013 01:02 GMT
#37
On July 31 2013 08:57 Orcasgt24 wrote:
I'm not convinced Innovation is the best player in the world anymore. His tendency to die to every early attack he faces should prevent the title of "The Best" for being applied to him. At the very least it should make the top of SC 2 a much more crowded position. He's still the single last player I want on the other side of the map after 15 minutes though.

I totally agree with you, except that you didn't mention one thing. I think it's ok to not have a "best player in the world". Sure, you might have someone who is the best at one matchup, and I think INnoVation's TvZ is pretty unmatched there, but I just don't think you have to name someone as the sole "best player". Although declaring someone as the top dog is fun and interesting because it's always debatable and intriguing discussions will ensue, but I just don't think there is a best right now because everyone has enough of a weakness to be considered not the best. And considering how plausible it is for someone to play a flawless game, so to speak, just without errors from start to finish, mechanically and in decision-making, it's totally possible for any of the top 15 or even top 25 players to play like the best player in the world. That's my opinion.
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banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
July 31 2013 01:04 GMT
#38
On July 31 2013 09:29 iMrising wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 08:56 banjoetheredskin wrote:
YES! Maru can win it all now because Bomber's law will be in full effect once he destroys Rain. Honestly I would rather Rain win it all, but I don't see him beating Bomber.

Bomber's law might take effect AFTER he wins the OSL

sure, but you probably say that because you really want bomber to win. even if you don't, it's kind of fun to hate sometimes, even though i do like bomber. just not as much
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 31 2013 01:04 GMT
#39
I'm more amazed that zealousy managed to sneak in a hotshotGG reference into this somehow :O
Glorious SEA doto
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 01:25:23
July 31 2013 01:06 GMT
#40
In game 2 Maru and Innovation went for the exact same build, as Inno had a scv in Maru's base who saw the timings and he mirrored them. Maru proxied a starport and made 2 medivac there, and Innovation bad micro did the rest, exact same scenario as in game 4. Funnily had he not "microed" his mine to death and let it in place, it would have shot both medivacs =)

I'm not sure you can call game 1, 2 or 4 cheese, in game 1 Maru's 1st banshee did zero damage, but the second one did a lot and allowed the marine + 1 then 2 tank push. Then in game 2 and 4, Maru and Innovation used the exact same build, production tab mirrored until one of them gg, so Innovation was cheesing too ? :p

I posted that because I noticed the reality of this serie and its perception are 2 very different things, and even in the recap :o More than a cheese serie, it was a outmicro serie.
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