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WCS Season 1 Premier League Invite List Announced - Page 21

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Jknighty
Profile Joined July 2011
159 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 09:07:32
April 11 2013 09:06 GMT
#401
Moonglade and Sen were guaranteed invites because of the region thing so they've only really plumped for Snute over him. With the number of Koreans not being seeded but choosing NA these qualifiers for the final 8 spots are going to be brutal.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 11 2013 09:09 GMT
#402
On April 11 2013 18:05 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 16:11 Strelok wrote:
On April 11 2013 16:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I readed eu list again and I realised that they invited most known players...nothing to do with skill...


Fully agree with that comment.

It's tricky to invite players based on skill when you just have achievements from WoL. Who would you replace though?

XlorD, Heromarine, and Happy have all been doing well in HotS, as have players like MorroW, Dayshi, Feast etc. but that list is so stacked its hard to remove someone. Perhaps Dimaga, since he hasn't been playing as much I think. The one who should definitely be there is LoWeLy.


Well, there are a lot of invited players who have less success than those three since the launch of HotS, but those players all did some sort of huge splash in the last year in some WoL tournament. In the end, it depends on how you weight HotS performance and WoL performance in your decision.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 11 2013 09:19 GMT
#403
Ret, TLO over Feast, LoWeLy, Morrow, Happy?

Is this a joke blizzard. LoWeLy got top 6 in the European championship not enough sorry the zerg with a 20% win ratio the last 6 months of WOL is going to take you place.

And Feast?? His performance at IEM outshines most of the people in that list.

Its a joke
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1351 Posts
April 11 2013 09:23 GMT
#404
Gogo monchi, show them your power^^
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 11 2013 09:29 GMT
#405
Why does DeMuslim never get noticed in any of these ;_; F M L
Guy is arguably the best player in NA at the moment (who isn't Korean anyway) and isn't on the NA list, and that is where he will be trying for i would think. FML
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 09:32:47
April 11 2013 09:31 GMT
#406
This list ... awesome bullshit.
On April 11 2013 18:09 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 18:05 mikkmagro wrote:
On April 11 2013 16:11 Strelok wrote:
On April 11 2013 16:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I readed eu list again and I realised that they invited most known players...nothing to do with skill...


Fully agree with that comment.

It's tricky to invite players based on skill when you just have achievements from WoL. Who would you replace though?

XlorD, Heromarine, and Happy have all been doing well in HotS, as have players like MorroW, Dayshi, Feast etc. but that list is so stacked its hard to remove someone. Perhaps Dimaga, since he hasn't been playing as much I think. The one who should definitely be there is LoWeLy.


Well, there are a lot of invited players who have less success than those three since the launch of HotS, but those players all did some sort of huge splash in the last year in some WoL tournament. In the end, it depends on how you weight HotS performance and WoL performance in your decision.

Morrow? Splash? Are we talking now about 2010? Then might add TLO. Oooh wait ...
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 09:32:40
April 11 2013 09:32 GMT
#407
double post <.<
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
April 11 2013 09:33 GMT
#408
I can see why DeMusliM wasn't invited, although he's one of my favourite players. If they were really set on 16 "Americans" and 8 "non Americans" then I'm not sure he should be in the list of non Americans based on results.

On the other hand, I tend to think that if you live in a region you should be counted as coming from that region, in the vein of SeleCt. DeMusliM and Polt both live in the US, and have done for some time, I believe?
Pitrocelli
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovakia127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 09:42:45
April 11 2013 09:41 GMT
#409
On April 11 2013 18:05 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 16:11 Strelok wrote:
On April 11 2013 16:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I readed eu list again and I realised that they invited most known players...nothing to do with skill...


Fully agree with that comment.

It's tricky to invite players based on skill when you just have achievements from WoL. Who would you replace though?

XlorD, Heromarine, and Happy have all been doing well in HotS, as have players like MorroW, Dayshi, Feast etc. but that list is so stacked its hard to remove someone. Perhaps Dimaga, since he hasn't been playing as much I think. The one who should definitely be there is LoWeLy.


Simple. Solution is simple. Just scrap this unfair unclear invites and go with qualification for all 32 slots determined by true and actual skill level. To avoid abuse region lock with few resident-based exceptions. Here you go, WCS worth of it's name.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 11 2013 09:46 GMT
#410
On April 11 2013 18:41 Pitrocelli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 18:05 mikkmagro wrote:
On April 11 2013 16:11 Strelok wrote:
On April 11 2013 16:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I readed eu list again and I realised that they invited most known players...nothing to do with skill...


Fully agree with that comment.

It's tricky to invite players based on skill when you just have achievements from WoL. Who would you replace though?

XlorD, Heromarine, and Happy have all been doing well in HotS, as have players like MorroW, Dayshi, Feast etc. but that list is so stacked its hard to remove someone. Perhaps Dimaga, since he hasn't been playing as much I think. The one who should definitely be there is LoWeLy.


Simple. Solution is simple. Just scrap this unfair unclear invites and go with qualification for all 32 slots determined by true and actual skill level. To avoid abuse region lock with few resident-based exceptions. Here you go, WCS worth of it's name.


The "problem" with qualifiers is that koreans would take all the spots and forums/twitter would be a full "they took our job!" shitfest.
Terran & Potato Salad.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 11 2013 09:49 GMT
#411
A few invites in EU might be different, though all invited players can make good case for themselves, but really this is the advantage of the seasonal system. Players proving to be better will end up where they deserve, though it might take a season or two. Koreans on foreign teams are screwing over the US system, but is it really necessary to rag on WCS EU? Doesn't it pretty much look amazingly fantastic?
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
April 11 2013 09:51 GMT
#412
On April 11 2013 18:19 Benjamin99 wrote:
Ret, TLO over Feast, LoWeLy, Morrow, Happy?

Is this a joke blizzard. LoWeLy got top 6 in the European championship not enough sorry the zerg with a 20% win ratio the last 6 months of WOL is going to take you place.

And Feast?? His performance at IEM outshines most of the people in that list.

Its a joke


TLO has been one of the best players in Europe since HotS though he's only had the ESET Masters run to prove it - LoWeLy is definitely more qualified, and Ret's recent IEM World Championship run was way more impressive than Feast's, having defeated MC, First and Sting in HotS, rather than almost a year ago in a different game. I like Feast, but I don't think he has done enough to warrant an invite.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Pitrocelli
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovakia127 Posts
April 11 2013 09:52 GMT
#413
On April 11 2013 18:46 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 18:41 Pitrocelli wrote:
On April 11 2013 18:05 mikkmagro wrote:
On April 11 2013 16:11 Strelok wrote:
On April 11 2013 16:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I readed eu list again and I realised that they invited most known players...nothing to do with skill...


Fully agree with that comment.

It's tricky to invite players based on skill when you just have achievements from WoL. Who would you replace though?

XlorD, Heromarine, and Happy have all been doing well in HotS, as have players like MorroW, Dayshi, Feast etc. but that list is so stacked its hard to remove someone. Perhaps Dimaga, since he hasn't been playing as much I think. The one who should definitely be there is LoWeLy.


Simple. Solution is simple. Just scrap this unfair unclear invites and go with qualification for all 32 slots determined by true and actual skill level. To avoid abuse region lock with few resident-based exceptions. Here you go, WCS worth of it's name.


The "problem" with qualifiers is that koreans would take all the spots and forums/twitter would be a full "they took our job!" shitfest.


Thats exactly why i suggest region lock in previous message. No Koreans in EU/NA except for the ones who live there for some time.
Tigi
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany472 Posts
April 11 2013 09:55 GMT
#414
Why no XlorD ? :'(
§1: Die Units des Hasu sind unantastbar.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 11 2013 09:56 GMT
#415
On April 11 2013 18:52 Pitrocelli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 18:46 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On April 11 2013 18:41 Pitrocelli wrote:
On April 11 2013 18:05 mikkmagro wrote:
On April 11 2013 16:11 Strelok wrote:
On April 11 2013 16:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I readed eu list again and I realised that they invited most known players...nothing to do with skill...


Fully agree with that comment.

It's tricky to invite players based on skill when you just have achievements from WoL. Who would you replace though?

XlorD, Heromarine, and Happy have all been doing well in HotS, as have players like MorroW, Dayshi, Feast etc. but that list is so stacked its hard to remove someone. Perhaps Dimaga, since he hasn't been playing as much I think. The one who should definitely be there is LoWeLy.


Simple. Solution is simple. Just scrap this unfair unclear invites and go with qualification for all 32 slots determined by true and actual skill level. To avoid abuse region lock with few resident-based exceptions. Here you go, WCS worth of it's name.


The "problem" with qualifiers is that koreans would take all the spots and forums/twitter would be a full "they took our job!" shitfest.


Thats exactly why i suggest region lock in previous message. No Koreans in EU/NA except for the ones who live there for some time.

To my mind WCS Europe is better of with a few Koreans flying in. It will be a more exciting tournament for it.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 10:01:32
April 11 2013 09:58 GMT
#416
On April 11 2013 18:19 Benjamin99 wrote:
Ret, TLO over Feast, LoWeLy, Morrow, Happy?

Is this a joke blizzard. LoWeLy got top 6 in the European championship not enough sorry the zerg with a 20% win ratio the last 6 months of WOL is going to take you place.

And Feast?? His performance at IEM outshines most of the people in that list.

Its a joke


Feast wasn't even qualified for the Global IEM finals, he had a grand total of 17,5 points last IEM season putting him at rank 51.

Ret was together with Mana one of the 2 foreigners in top8 at IEM Global Finals. TLO was top 8 in katowice and last HSC. He also was top 12 at the last Dreamhack finals (same as Feast). Neither Lowely nor Happy did well at IEM or Dreamhack either.

Feast is very strong right now in hots, I give you that but he didn't show that in tournaments yet.
Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
April 11 2013 10:08 GMT
#417
No DeMuslim is ridicoulos.

Invite him, or bury the hole thing. Sometimes the community has to stand up and say NO!

Im missing a voting an TL about this point!
MMA II DeMuslim II MKP II JD II IdrA II HuK II Leenock II Stephano II
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
April 11 2013 10:10 GMT
#418
part of this is so unfair to the code S players.
They went to a lot of trouble qualifying for code S, some even severely delaying their HotS practice by being forced to play up&down just before HotS launched. And now what?
Code B players get to play in the premier league of Europe/NA without any trouble. It's easier and it doesn't matter at all how you did the last month or two, just how big your name is.

On the other hand HotS sort of equalizes the field a bit I guess so it isn't too bad but it still feels damn unfair.
derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
April 11 2013 10:11 GMT
#419
I would say scrap that invite to Nestea and give Demuslim that spot instead, he can do alot more with that spot than what old Nestea can.
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
April 11 2013 10:12 GMT
#420
A few ppl from NA/EU that got invited isn't that good! Oh wellz! gl to everyone ;_;
http://twitter.com/PiQLiQ
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